BB: Regionals (South) Danville '08, Salisbury '09, Methodist '10, Rhodes '11

[SUbaseballfan]

All this talk is doing is taking away from SU and their accomplishments in THIS regional!!! All this past talk is in the PAST!! Let it go boys!!

[PNeal7]

Agreed Bossman. I personally have nothing against the guy, except for it's ridiculous to get on a message and boast your own personal experiences/achievements. I also agree with SUBaseball Fan, as SU is 2-0 in the current regional and sitting pretty. However, I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch Bossman (the "soon" to be 3 comment). While it very well may be a 3rd upcoming champsionship, it's a bad omen, and against the rules of the baseball gods. You know that just as well as me  .

On to the more important note, you playing any softball this summer? lol

[BigPoppa]

I have often found it easy to make a bold statement when you are not the one who has to answer for it on the field.

[Will2Win]

Agreed Bossman. I personally have nothing against the guy, except for it's ridiculous to get on a message and boast your own personal experiences/achievements. I also agree with SUBaseball Fan, as SU is 2-0 in the current regional and sitting pretty. However, I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch Bossman (the "soon" to be 3 comment). While it very well may be a 3rd upcoming champsionship, it's a bad omen, and against the rules of the baseball gods. You know that just as well as me  .

On to the more important note, you playing any softball this summer? lol

Lol, I know it's not the brightest of ideas to go and crown a champ before it's actually been done, maybe it's just a lil wishful thinking on my behalf...one can atleast always hope for the 3rd title...If not, oh well...is what it is.
Naa, Not playing any softball, dont get back in town early enough from work during the week and I don't feel like it on the weekends haha.

BigPoppa...Thanks for your 2 cents as well. Although I am not there "playing" to prove my point as you would like...One can always base an opinion on what they have seen or from past baseball experiences...After watching each team in this regional I'm pretty sure I'd say SU is the best team there and have the best shot to continue on from the south after the first two games...Call me crazy, but I'm sure many who have been in tune with this regional closely would have to agree...

The hot Salisbury(SSU) team comes in winners of 8 straight (or something like that) and they take one on the chin to open things up...we all know about CNU's regional appearance...the same piedmont team that waxed SSU got throttled by SU last night...Wabash has been beaten by SU...and Webster lost to SSU yesterday...

Call it what ya want, I just feel the Hornets are the best team left...now, will they go win it??? Who knows, I certainly hope so.

[CafeBordeaux]

Oh yea you're right, I benefited from that so called "weak" schedule, but none of the other SU players did.  Weak schedule or not, we still took the Region both years so say what you want, but I dont think you can say the "REGION TOURNAMENT" was weak.  That weak schedule also consisted of what turned out to be 5 games against you guys, in which we took 4 of them.  My hats off to Brinkman for throwing the way he did in game 1 of conf tourny, that was in all honesty unreal.  But I'll leave it at the fact that we can agree to disagree PNeal. 

The fact is SU is up 2-0 in the Region right now and if it plays out, they get the Webster/Piedmont winner and the winner of Salisbury/Wabash is moving on to tomorrow's championship game.  So, hoping this doesn't happen, but if SU loses tonight, they will be 2-1, Webster or Piedmont will be 2-1 and wabash or salisbury will be 2-1, how the f*** does that work out for tomorrow?   It almost seems as though its set up to where its "ok" to lose a game in the region cause you still have to win 4 to get the title.  You just cant lose on day 1.  Somebody explain this set up cuz i cant seem to figure it out.  Doesn't seem like it favors the team that starts 2-0.  Last year, we were 2-0 along with Mary Wash on day 3, and we beat them which forced them to play Salisbury later that night to see who played us in the Championship.  But that was a scenario where TWO teams were 2-0, unlike this tournament.  I'm not getting how this set up works just in case there are 3 teams that are 2-1 going into tomorrow. 

[hoopstermom]

Looks like if Shenandoah wins it's next game, then will be in the Championship game facing winner of Salisbury/Wabash.

If Shenandoah loses it's next game, then they must play the winner of the Salisbury/Wabash game to earn a spot in the Championship game.  In this scenario, the team that beats Shenandoah would move on to the Championship game.

Definitely does not appear to be an advantage to start off 2-0 the way the bracket breaks down.

It's hard to follow even when in bracket format
http://scacsports.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/2011southregional/2011_south_region_bracket.pdf

[narch]

Definitely does not appear to be an advantage to start off 2-0 the way the bracket breaks down.

it is an advantage to be playing your third game of the weekend when anyone else is playing its fourth game of the weekend

I'm not getting how this set up works just in case there are 3 teams that are 2-1 going into tomorrow.

if shenandoah loses to the webster/piedmont winner, they will play the salisbury/wabash winner - the winner of the shenandoah vs. salisbury/wabash game would then play the winner of the webster/piedmont game in a winner-take-the-title game

[narch]

i'd like to comment on the cnu/su thing going back and forth right now...

my opinion of su has changed dramatically in the span of the last 12 months or so, some positive, some negative - on the field, i now believe (and did after the regional last year) that su is the real deal - i think they will be able to sustain success long-term (next year will be tough, though), especially moving into the odac, where they can win a lot of games even if they aren't as good - winning begets winning

my opinion of the su program as a class program has changed for the negative, due in large part to the comments on this board and the alleged actions of the coach during the cnu series...if you run a classy program, your former players shouldn't have to be on a message board talking about how classy the program is while making statements which are in direct contrast - like it or not, the things that people say and do on these boards are perception of a school/program for many of us (and i say this fully aware that there may be some who have a negative perception of mu because of some of my comments )

piedmont eliminated webster winning 2-1...go lions

[CafeBordeaux]

That makes sense that if three teams were 2-1 that there would just be a one game winner-take-all championship, but it doesn't seem to be an advantage for a Shenandoah team who is 2-0 to have to go that way.  Hopefully my Hornets can avoid that scenario by taking care of business tonight and just let everybody else beat each other.  6 team set ups are stupid in my opinion.  I like the way the Region was set up in 09 w the 8 teams that were at Salisbury.  2 wins away from a 3-peat, LET'S GO BOYS!!!

[CafeBordeaux]

Sorry for keeping this going, but this 6 team format makes zero sense.  Shenandoah who is 2-0 plays piedmont tonight who is 2-1.  The winner of wabash/salisbury is automatically in the championship and obviously the loser of that goes home.  so there will be a 2-1 team already in the finals, if SU loses tonight they will play Piedmont (I'm assuming) again tomorrow to see who plays the wabash/salisbury winner for a one game winner-take-all game.  So that means that wabash and salisbury, who both lost on day 1, will only need to win 3 games to take the title if the three team's at 2-1 scenario occurs.  The Wab/Salisbury winner should have to play piedmont tomorrow (if piedmont beats SU tonight) to see who goes to the championship.  Not saying this cause I'm an SU guy, it just doesn't make sense to start 2-0 if you will have to win 4 games to take the title as opposed to 3 wins for the Wabash/Salisbury winner.  Now all of this is irrelevant if SU takes care of Piedmont tonight, but still, in case they don't, this set up does not favor the team that starts 2-0.   The NCAA just needs to go to a 64 team field and do 8 team Regions the whole way through.   

[Hound Dog]

Sorry for keeping this going, but this 6 team format makes zero sense.  Shenandoah who is 2-0 plays piedmont tonight who is 2-1.  The winner of wabash/salisbury is automatically in the championship and obviously the loser of that goes home.  so there will be a 2-1 team already in the finals, if SU loses tonight they will play Piedmont (I'm assuming) again tomorrow to see who plays the wabash/salisbury winner for a one game winner-take-all game.  So that means that wabash and salisbury, who both lost on day 1, will only need to win 3 games to take the title if the three team's at 2-1 scenario occurs.  The Wab/Salisbury winner should have to play piedmont tomorrow (if piedmont beats SU tonight) to see who goes to the championship.  Not saying this cause I'm an SU guy, it just doesn't make sense to start 2-0 if you will have to win 4 games to take the title as opposed to 3 wins for the Wabash/Salisbury winner.  Now all of this is irrelevant if SU takes care of Piedmont tonight, but still, in case they don't, this set up does not favor the team that starts 2-0.   The NCAA just needs to go to a 64 team field and do 8 team Regions the whole way through.  

Let's not try to reinvent the wheel here.....it takes 4 wins to win this regional no matter what.  If Shenandoah loses tonight, they will play the winner of Wabash/Salisbury tomorrow at noon.   Piedmont would be in the finals at 3:30 tomorrow with a 3-1 record to face the winner of Wabash/Salisbury vs Shenandoah, either of whom would be 3-1 going into the finals.

[Hound Dog]

If my explanation above doesn't suffice, you could always take a look at the bracket as well:

http://scacsports.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/2011southregional/2011_south_region_bracket.pdf

[narch]

That makes sense that if three teams were 2-1 that there would just be a one game winner-take-all championship, but it doesn't seem to be an advantage for a Shenandoah team who is 2-0 to have to go that way.  Hopefully my Hornets can avoid that scenario by taking care of business tonight and just let everybody else beat each other.  6 team set ups are stupid in my opinion.  I like the way the Region was set up in 09 w the 8 teams that were at Salisbury.  2 wins away from a 3-peat, LET'S GO BOYS!!!

the problem that you're having is that there would not be three teams at 2-1 if piedmont wins tonight...pc would be 3-1 while su and the wabash/ssu winner would be 2-1, as pc is already 2-1 going into the game tonight (wins vs. ssu and webster, loss vs. su)

in the scenario that su loses to pc tonight, the wabash/ssu winner still needs two more wins - one vs. su and another vs. pc - it takes 4 wins to bring home a title in a 6 team regional any way you slice it

[narch]

with the exception of the cnu meltdown, it seems that the cream has risen to the top in this regional...piedmont, salisbury and su left with a shot at the crown

[forheavendial4999]

Oh yea you're right, I benefited from that so called "weak" schedule, but none of the other SU players did.  Weak schedule or not, we still took the Region both years so say what you want, but I dont think you can say the "REGION TOURNAMENT" was weak. 

Compared to other regions? I sure would. South region baseball isn't what it used to be. The region has only had 1 champion win more than one game in Appleton since 2003 (Emory 2007, obviously). It was never the best region, but it was better than this. I'm hopeful that the changes in the USAS will help that, and the addition of Birmingham Southern to the mix.