BB: Regionals (South) Danville '08, Salisbury '09, Methodist '10, Rhodes '11

[Ralph Turner]

Anyone within 500 miles of Memphis can be sent to the Rhodes regional.

[forheavendial4999]

Anyone within 500 miles of Memphis can be sent to the Rhodes regional.

SLIAC champ says hi.

Copied from my post on another board...

Google maps says Joliet to Millington is 506 miles. Nowhere in Iowa appears to be close enough. Dallas, Indianapolis and Cincinnati are less than 500 miles.

Significantly, so is Demorest, GA, which shows up as precisely 500 miles from Marietta by the shortest route. Every VA or NC possibility could go to Marietta. Methodist could only go to Marietta and stay under 500 miles, if they get a berth that is.

Teams that could be in the tournament that could go to Millington would be anyone in the SLIAC, Transylvania, Rose-Hulman, Franklin, Thomas More, University of Dallas, anyone in the ASC East still playing (Mississippi College could only go to Millington and stay less than 500 miles).

That's really not many possibilities. SLIAC and Piedmont will most likely be there. Maybe 50-50 on HCAC champ or a Pool C from there, Thomas More maybe, and it seems likely that the ASC champ will go to the West unless it's Mississippi to help fill that regional.

[NoVa Baseball]

I knew I'd get more enlightened input.

So based on what I've heard:

1) CNU
2) Piedmont
3) SLIAC Winner
4) Salisbury
5) Randolph Macon
6) Methodist/Thomas Moore

Mississippi has 16 losses and seems a stretch. 

[forheavendial4999]

I knew I'd get more enlightened input.

So based on what I've heard:

1) CNU
2) Piedmont
3) SLIAC Winner
4) Salisbury
5) Randolph Macon
6) Methodist/Thomas Moore

Mississippi has 16 losses and seems a stretch.  

Miss. College would have to be an automatic qualifier, yes. Methodist and/or T-M might not get a bid either. Or Salisbury. Still a lot to be decided. That's a pretty weak region if the SLIAC champ is a 3 seed.

If Franklin, Rose-Hulman or Transy wins the HCAC or someone (most likely Transy) gets a Pool C berth, or Wabash wins the NCAC, they could be headed south as well. I would go so far as to say if Transy is in, they will go to Millington. There are really only 5 teams in the HCAC that are real contenders, so this is a lot more than a minimal chance. 50-50, maybe better, plus the chance that Transy gets a Pool C berth. Any of these would be preferable distance-wise to Methodist and Salisbury. Methodist would most likely to go to Marietta if they were in. Salisbury could go to Marietta, New Jersey or Auburn.

[narch]

I knew I'd get more enlightened input.

So based on what I've heard:

1) CNU
2) Piedmont
3) SLIAC Winner
4) Salisbury
5) Randolph Macon
6) Methodist/Thomas Moore

Mississippi has 16 losses and seems a stretch. 

this looks better, but i'm not convinced that the ncaa is going to send a team which is presumably the top seed in the south (cnu) 882 miles and send the presumed #2 seed in the south (shenandoah) to a different (and closer) regional site

i also don't think that rmc would be ranked ahead of any of these teams, other than perhaps thomas more

[mrmom]

Well you know the NCAA hiccuped (again) when only 12 of 38 teams in the South region are within 500 miles of Millington Tn. 

When you factor that ineptitude with the normal NCAA efficiency...you could get all the South teams sent 800 miles packing.

Hopefully they disperse the highest rated  teams so that they don't all knock each other out in the regionals. 

[forheavendial4999]

I knew I'd get more enlightened input.

So based on what I've heard:

1) CNU
2) Piedmont
3) SLIAC Winner
4) Salisbury
5) Randolph Macon
6) Methodist/Thomas Moore

Mississippi has 16 losses and seems a stretch. 

this looks better, but i'm not convinced that the ncaa is going to send a team which is presumably the top seed in the south (cnu) 882 miles and send the presumed #2 seed in the south (shenandoah) to a different (and closer) regional site

i also don't think that rmc would be ranked ahead of any of these teams, other than perhaps thomas more

I think they will because Shenandoah is unlikely to be a 1 seed wherever they go -- be it Marietta or New Jersey. By season's end I'm not sure they would be a 1 seed even in New York. The polls done here are not ground truth at all and Shenandoah's schedule will be scrutinized with regard to seeding. I find it less likely that the NCAA would send CNU to another regional (ESPECIALLY Marietta or New Jersey, which would be ridiculously stacked at that point) and let Shenandoah be a 1 seed in a weaker region.

I agree that putting the regional at Millington was odd, especially when they had regionals in Texas and downstate Illinois. If the region was at Augustana or Carthage, it would make slightly more sense. Did anywhere else in the South region submit a package for it though?

I imagine the South regional will be in Birmingham and/or Demorest at some point in the future. I'm not sure if Demorest has an enclosed facility or not, come to think of it. Not certain if that is a requirement, but I imagine it's certainly a preference. NCAA likes to make money.

[nelfox]

Salisbury??....How do they figure in the regional this year. Frostburg won the conf. tourney wouldn't they figure in the regional or are they ineligible this year. If not, UMW should be ahead of Salisbury ...they beat them twice ,knocked them out of the tourney and defeated boh CNU and Randolh -Macon and have a better record ....I think.

[narch]

Salisbury??....How do they figure in the regional this year. Frostburg won the conf. tourney wouldn't they figure in the regional or are they ineligible this year. If not, UMW should be ahead of Salisbury ...they beat them twice ,knocked them out of the tourney and defeated boh CNU and Randolh -Macon and have a better record ....I think.

frostburg is in, but they aren't a south region team, to  my knowledge...also, i think most assume that they will be sent to a regional closer to them in proximity (which could be a dangerous assumption)

as for salisbury vs. mary wash...i give salisbury the edge - salisbury has a SOS ranked 98th nationally, while umw is at 184...salisbury has a higher regional winning % at .677 vs. .649 for umw and salisbury actually split the season series with umw at 2-2 (and umw was out scored 36-21 in those 4 games) - i also see some bad losses on umw's resume...2 losses to wesley, 1 to ncwc and 2 losses to york (all sub .500 teams) won't look good

[narch]

this won't necessarily have anything to do with the regional tournament, but here is my guess at the regional rankings (as of today)

1. cnu
2. shenandoah
3. piedmont
4. emory
5. salisbury
6. methodist
7. maryville
8. mary washington

[SUball]

Yeah, I'll be very surprised if Shenandoah goes to TN...I think and hope they go to the Kean(mid-athlantic) region..if they are sent to the marietta region that would have to be classified as the toughest region with Marietta, Heidelberg and SU.

Is there any chance that they might move one of the texas teams over to Millington such as Texas-Tyler?

[SUball]

Well you know the NCAA hiccuped (again) when only 12 of 38 teams in the South region are within 500 miles of Millington Tn. 

When you factor that ineptitude with the normal NCAA efficiency...you could get all the South teams sent 800 miles packing.

Hopefully they disperse the highest rated  teams so that they don't all knock each other out in the regionals. 

I'm guessing that no one else put in a legitimate bid for the regional(when NCAA announced all the regional sites the south was TBA for a decent amount of time)  i hope the NCAA took into consideration the travel distances  for majority of south region teams and gave the regional to Millington as a last option. 

There are so many excellent venues in the southeast that would make more geographical sense and shame if they didnt but a bit in. i.e. Piedmont, emory, Washington & Lee, CNU if they got lights, and not to mention the teams that could host with the help of a minor league stadium...Salisbury, Averett, Lynchburg, Greenboro, Roanoke

[mrmom]

The Frostburg/Salisbury/MW comment brings up a question for you veterans...when a conference is split between regions how do they consider it?  Frostburg is Mid-Atlantic while Salisbury and MW are South?

Also, SU IMO would best be served to go to Auburn NY rather than New jersey.  If the rankings mean anything Cortland state is the highest rated NY region team and they aren't even in top 10 so putting a strong team in that regional would just make sense.

That said, I would think the NCAA would be obliged to send all POOL A qualifiers to their respective regions or why have them in the first place.  If they don't they'll look stupid for having the regional in Millington, Tn.

[Ralph Turner]

The Frostburg/Salisbury/MW comment brings up a question for you veterans...when a conference is split between regions how do they consider it?  Frostburg is Mid-Atlantic while Salisbury and MW are South?

Also, SU IMO would best be served to go to Auburn NY rather than New jersey.  If the rankings mean anything Cortland state is the highest rated NY region team and they aren't even in top 10 so putting a strong team in that regional would just make sense.

That said, I would think the NCAA would be obliged to send all POOL A qualifiers to their respective regions or why have them in the first place.  If they don't they'll look stupid for having the regional in Millington, Tn.

The evaluation process is done by regions.

The seeding of the brackets is done by other factors including regional rankings, proximity, travel expenses with respect to plane flights.  Various committees have tried to split conference members into separate brackets.

D3baseball.com/NCBWA Top 25 ranking has no bearing or impact on the rankings by the regional evaluation committees.

[narch]

there are at least six teams which are above .600 and within 500 miles of millington, tn - i think any of these are strong candidates for this regional if they get an aq or are selected as a pool b/c candidate

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