BB: Regionals (South) Danville '08, Salisbury '09, Methodist '10, Rhodes '11

[NoVa Baseball]

Narch - cool graphic.  Based on this, it would seem that Emory may be a stronger choice than Salisbury for the south region.  Here's my latest guess:

1) CNU
2) Peidmont
3) Emory
4) Methodist/Salisbury
5) SLAIC Winner
6) Randolph-Macon

[Ralph Turner]

+1  Narch! 

Well, we have 4 Pool B's, Transy from the HCAC and TMore from the Pres AC.

Webster from the SLIAC may show up in Millington as a Pool A.

D3 is gonna be spending a lot of money on plane flights this year.

[NoVa Baseball]

I knew I'd get more enlightened input.

So based on what I've heard:

1) CNU
2) Piedmont
3) SLIAC Winner
4) Salisbury
5) Randolph Macon
6) Methodist/Thomas Moore

Mississippi has 16 losses and seems a stretch.  

this looks better, but i'm not convinced that the ncaa is going to send a team which is presumably the top seed in the south (cnu) 882 miles and send the presumed #2 seed in the south (shenandoah) to a different (and closer) regional site

i also don't think that rmc would be ranked ahead of any of these teams, other than perhaps thomas more

I think they will because Shenandoah is unlikely to be a 1 seed wherever they go -- be it Marietta or New Jersey. By season's end I'm not sure they would be a 1 seed even in New York. The polls done here are not ground truth at all and Shenandoah's schedule will be scrutinized with regard to seeding. I find it less likely that the NCAA would send CNU to another regional (ESPECIALLY Marietta or New Jersey, which would be ridiculously stacked at that point) and let Shenandoah be a 1 seed in a weaker region.

I agree that putting the regional at Millington was odd, especially when they had regionals in Texas and downstate Illinois. If the region was at Augustana or Carthage, it would make slightly more sense. Did anywhere else in the South region submit a package for it though?

I imagine the South regional will be in Birmingham and/or Demorest at some point in the future. I'm not sure if Demorest has an enclosed facility or not, come to think of it. Not certain if that is a requirement, but I imagine it's certainly a preference. NCAA likes to make money.

Sure looks like forheaven has a connection to a higher power - Shenandoah just lost to Frostburg 2-1.  

[forheavendial4999]

Yeah, I'll be very surprised if Shenandoah goes to TN...I think and hope they go to the Kean(mid-athlantic) region..if they are sent to the marietta region that would have to be classified as the toughest region with Marietta, Heidelberg and SU.

Is there any chance that they might move one of the texas teams over to Millington such as Texas-Tyler?

If there is an upset in the ASC tournament, and Chapman gets a bid...maybe. Then you might have Trinity, ASC champ, HSU, UTT, Linfield, Redlands, Chapman and UT-Tyler could go to Millington. If that surprise ASC champ was Louisiana or Mississippi, then they might go instead.

I think if Shenandoah goes to another region that region is automatically going to look pretty tough on paper. But right now Shenandoah's only 2-4 against teams that are locks or clinched to be in the tournament (CNU, Cortland, Frostburg). Sometimes records can be deceiving. Either Marietta or New Jersey are likely to be strong regionals regardless of whether Shenandoah is there or not. Heidelberg could theoretically go to Bloomington, as could Adrian. Impossible to say whether that will happen or not.

[SUball]

Yeah, I'll be very surprised if Shenandoah goes to TN...I think and hope they go to the Kean(mid-athlantic) region..if they are sent to the marietta region that would have to be classified as the toughest region with Marietta, Heidelberg and SU.

Is there any chance that they might move one of the texas teams over to Millington such as Texas-Tyler?

If there is an upset in the ASC tournament, and Chapman gets a bid...maybe. Then you might have Trinity, ASC champ, HSU, UTT, Linfield, Redlands, Chapman and UT-Tyler could go to Millington. If that surprise ASC champ was Louisiana or Mississippi, then they might go instead.

I think if Shenandoah goes to another region that region is automatically going to look pretty tough on paper. But right now Shenandoah's only 2-4 against teams that are locks or clinched to be in the tournament (CNU, Cortland, Frostburg). Sometimes records can be deceiving. Either Marietta or New Jersey are likely to be strong regionals regardless of whether Shenandoah is there or not. Heidelberg could theoretically go to Bloomington, as could Adrian. Impossible to say whether that will happen or not.

Majority of those teams are 500+ from millingon...
Trinity 515
HSU 649
Linfield, Redlands, Chapman 1,500 plus

On the other note, I'm a little bit concerned about SU against tough competition...however, the 2-4 record doesnt tell the whole story...in the sample you have to put in RMC, MU, Salisbury along with the three teams that you mentioned, making their record 6-4
The offense has dropped off a bit and especially against the top tier teams....In those 10 games SU batting .264, 4.8 runs per game(if u take the 12 runs they put up on cnu out it would be in the 3s) and 2.4 XBHs per game

[forheavendial4999]

Yeah, I'll be very surprised if Shenandoah goes to TN...I think and hope they go to the Kean(mid-athlantic) region..if they are sent to the marietta region that would have to be classified as the toughest region with Marietta, Heidelberg and SU.

Is there any chance that they might move one of the texas teams over to Millington such as Texas-Tyler?

If there is an upset in the ASC tournament, and Chapman gets a bid...maybe. Then you might have Trinity, ASC champ, HSU, UTT, Linfield, Redlands, Chapman and UT-Tyler could go to Millington. If that surprise ASC champ was Louisiana or Mississippi, then they might go instead.

I think if Shenandoah goes to another region that region is automatically going to look pretty tough on paper. But right now Shenandoah's only 2-4 against teams that are locks or clinched to be in the tournament (CNU, Cortland, Frostburg). Sometimes records can be deceiving. Either Marietta or New Jersey are likely to be strong regionals regardless of whether Shenandoah is there or not. Heidelberg could theoretically go to Bloomington, as could Adrian. Impossible to say whether that will happen or not.

Majority of those teams are 500+ from millingon...
Trinity 515
HSU 649
Linfield, Redlands, Chapman 1,500 plus

On the other note, I'm a little bit concerned about SU against tough competition...however, the 2-4 record doesnt tell the whole story...in the sample you have to put in RMC, MU, Salisbury along with the three teams that you mentioned, making their record 6-4
The offense has dropped off a bit and especially against the top tier teams....In those 10 games SU batting .264, 4.8 runs per game(if u take the 12 runs they put up on cnu out it would be in the 3s) and 2.4 XBHs per game

Why would be why I said "UT-Tyler could go to Millington" not those other teams. I'm glad you felt you needed to say that Linfield, Redlands and Chapman are more than 500 miles from Tennessee. Hardin-Simmons is in the same city as the regional, making them a damn unlikely candidate to be moved. I love when people add things I've already covered.

Methodist hasn't clinched crap. Neither has Salisbury. The South is so weak this year that I don't see being on the bottom of the regional rankings as meaning very much.

Randolph-Macon is in, and technically should have been counted, though I hardly think anyone from the ODAC was a quality win this year.

On another board, it was mentioned that Concordia IL has a dearth of quality wins, and their schedule looks fairly similar to Shenandoah's if you ask me. Shen is in a better league, but this was a really off year for the USAS from the looks of things. Whither Ferrum and NC Wesleyan?

[CrashDavisD3]

Yeah, I'll be very surprised if Shenandoah goes to TN...I think and hope they go to the Kean(mid-athlantic) region..if they are sent to the marietta region that would have to be classified as the toughest region with Marietta, Heidelberg and SU.

Is there any chance that they might move one of the texas teams over to Millington such as Texas-Tyler?

With the West Regional in Texas this year and the West Region not having a strong year, I don't see any West Region teams being shipped to other regions. In fact I believe it is possible for a Pool C team outside the West Region to be shipped to the West Region in Abilene, TX. Teams will already be flying into Abilene already from CA, and Oregon(Redlands, Linfield and possibly Chapman). UTT, HSU on the bus. IF UDallas happens to sweep Chapman you could have UDallas also on the bus to Abilene.

Linfield is over 1800 miles from Abilene Texas. Chapman over 1200 and Redlands over 1100

[Ralph Turner]

UDallas is a good example of how tough the ASC is.

Against a representative schedule of ASC teams (3 teams from each division, and 2 of the 6 foes making the ASC tourney), UDallas is only 9-6.  They went 3-3 against ASC tourney teams, East #2 UT-Dallas and West #3 Texas Lutheran.  They might have qualified for the ASC East, where there was a 3-way tie for 2nd at 11-7 with UT-Dallas, Louisiana College and Mississippi College.

[mrmom]

SU played without 2 of its all-conference players yesterday due to finals, and Frostburg pitched their ace showing it was a big game for them!  Seeing how he shut down SU I'd say he was a quality pitcher and his stats back that up......But all credit to Frostburg!

Today is senior Day at SU so I suspect alot of starters will sit in deference to seniors (as it should be).  Coach A stays with his prorities and it shows that school and commitment to his seniors takes precedence over winning games. 

SU will give a good account of themselves wherever they play. 

[Will2Win]

SU played without 2 of its all-conference players yesterday due to finals, and Frostburg pitched their ace showing it was a big game for them!  Seeing how he shut down SU I'd say he was a quality pitcher and his stats back that up......But all credit to Frostburg!

Today is senior Day at SU so I suspect alot of starters will sit in deference to seniors (as it should be).  Coach A stays with his prorities and it shows that school and commitment to his seniors takes precedence over winning games.  

SU will give a good account of themselves wherever they play.  

Although it wasn't due to "finals," it was due to a few kids having to take tests...(Not knocking ya mrmom, just helping ya out a bit...people on here will call you out because SU's final dates are posted on their official website.)

Nevertheless, true statement from mrmom....After I checked the boxscore and noticed who was missing, I talked to one of the guys who couldn't make the trip and he informed me it was due to these tests. Unfortunate, but like i've said all along.....KA is a good guy and although he comes across as a "win at all cost" kinda guy....he values academics and producing quality student athletes.

SU will be fine when school is out of the way and it's tourney time!

[SUball]

Yeah, I'll be very surprised if Shenandoah goes to TN...I think and hope they go to the Kean(mid-athlantic) region..if they are sent to the marietta region that would have to be classified as the toughest region with Marietta, Heidelberg and SU.

Is there any chance that they might move one of the texas teams over to Millington such as Texas-Tyler?

If there is an upset in the ASC tournament, and Chapman gets a bid...maybe. Then you might have Trinity, ASC champ, HSU, UTT, Linfield, Redlands, Chapman and UT-Tyler could go to Millington. If that surprise ASC champ was Louisiana or Mississippi, then they might go instead.

I think if Shenandoah goes to another region that region is automatically going to look pretty tough on paper. But right now Shenandoah's only 2-4 against teams that are locks or clinched to be in the tournament (CNU, Cortland, Frostburg). Sometimes records can be deceiving. Either Marietta or New Jersey are likely to be strong regionals regardless of whether Shenandoah is there or not. Heidelberg could theoretically go to Bloomington, as could Adrian. Impossible to say whether that will happen or not.

Majority of those teams are 500+ from millingon...
Trinity 515
HSU 649
Linfield, Redlands, Chapman 1,500 plus

On the other note, I'm a little bit concerned about SU against tough competition...however, the 2-4 record doesnt tell the whole story...in the sample you have to put in RMC, MU, Salisbury along with the three teams that you mentioned, making their record 6-4
The offense has dropped off a bit and especially against the top tier teams....In those 10 games SU batting .264, 4.8 runs per game(if u take the 12 runs they put up on cnu out it would be in the 3s) and 2.4 XBHs per game

Why would be why I said "UT-Tyler could go to Millington" not those other teams. I'm glad you felt you needed to say that Linfield, Redlands and Chapman are more than 500 miles from Tennessee. Hardin-Simmons is in the same city as the regional, making them a damn unlikely candidate to be moved. I love when people add things I've already covered.

Methodist hasn't clinched crap. Neither has Salisbury. The South is so weak this year that I don't see being on the bottom of the regional rankings as meaning very much.

Randolph-Macon is in, and technically should have been counted, though I hardly think anyone from the ODAC was a quality win this year.

On another board, it was mentioned that Concordia IL has a dearth of quality wins, and their schedule looks fairly similar to Shenandoah's if you ask me. Shen is in a better league, but this was a really off year for the USAS from the looks of things. Whither Ferrum and NC Wesleyan?

My mistake i misead ur post....easy bro...I agree Methodist and Salisbury havent secure a spot in the regions but are in the talking..so i think justifies them being used

[Will2Win]

Yeah, I'll be very surprised if Shenandoah goes to TN...I think and hope they go to the Kean(mid-athlantic) region..if they are sent to the marietta region that would have to be classified as the toughest region with Marietta, Heidelberg and SU.

Is there any chance that they might move one of the texas teams over to Millington such as Texas-Tyler?

If there is an upset in the ASC tournament, and Chapman gets a bid...maybe. Then you might have Trinity, ASC champ, HSU, UTT, Linfield, Redlands, Chapman and UT-Tyler could go to Millington. If that surprise ASC champ was Louisiana or Mississippi, then they might go instead.

I think if Shenandoah goes to another region that region is automatically going to look pretty tough on paper. But right now Shenandoah's only 2-4 against teams that are locks or clinched to be in the tournament (CNU, Cortland, Frostburg). Sometimes records can be deceiving. Either Marietta or New Jersey are likely to be strong regionals regardless of whether Shenandoah is there or not. Heidelberg could theoretically go to Bloomington, as could Adrian. Impossible to say whether that will happen or not.

Majority of those teams are 500+ from millingon...
Trinity 515
HSU 649
Linfield, Redlands, Chapman 1,500 plus

On the other note, I'm a little bit concerned about SU against tough competition...however, the 2-4 record doesnt tell the whole story...in the sample you have to put in RMC, MU, Salisbury along with the three teams that you mentioned, making their record 6-4
The offense has dropped off a bit and especially against the top tier teams....In those 10 games SU batting .264, 4.8 runs per game(if u take the 12 runs they put up on cnu out it would be in the 3s) and 2.4 XBHs per game

Why would be why I said "UT-Tyler could go to Millington" not those other teams. I'm glad you felt you needed to say that Linfield, Redlands and Chapman are more than 500 miles from Tennessee. Hardin-Simmons is in the same city as the regional, making them a damn unlikely candidate to be moved. I love when people add things I've already covered.

Methodist hasn't clinched crap. Neither has Salisbury. The South is so weak this year that I don't see being on the bottom of the regional rankings as meaning very much.

Randolph-Macon is in, and technically should have been counted, though I hardly think anyone from the ODAC was a quality win this year.

On another board, it was mentioned that Concordia IL has a dearth of quality wins, and their schedule looks fairly similar to Shenandoah's if you ask me. Shen is in a better league, but this was a really off year for the USAS from the looks of things. Whither Ferrum and NC Wesleyan?

My mistake i misead ur post....easy bro...I agree Methodist and Salisbury havent secure a spot in the regions but are in the talking..so i think justifies them being used

There's no winning with him SUball...give up before you start going in circles.

[forheavendial4999]

Yeah, I'll be very surprised if Shenandoah goes to TN...I think and hope they go to the Kean(mid-athlantic) region..if they are sent to the marietta region that would have to be classified as the toughest region with Marietta, Heidelberg and SU.

Is there any chance that they might move one of the texas teams over to Millington such as Texas-Tyler?

If there is an upset in the ASC tournament, and Chapman gets a bid...maybe. Then you might have Trinity, ASC champ, HSU, UTT, Linfield, Redlands, Chapman and UT-Tyler could go to Millington. If that surprise ASC champ was Louisiana or Mississippi, then they might go instead.

I think if Shenandoah goes to another region that region is automatically going to look pretty tough on paper. But right now Shenandoah's only 2-4 against teams that are locks or clinched to be in the tournament (CNU, Cortland, Frostburg). Sometimes records can be deceiving. Either Marietta or New Jersey are likely to be strong regionals regardless of whether Shenandoah is there or not. Heidelberg could theoretically go to Bloomington, as could Adrian. Impossible to say whether that will happen or not.

Majority of those teams are 500+ from millingon...
Trinity 515
HSU 649
Linfield, Redlands, Chapman 1,500 plus

On the other note, I'm a little bit concerned about SU against tough competition...however, the 2-4 record doesnt tell the whole story...in the sample you have to put in RMC, MU, Salisbury along with the three teams that you mentioned, making their record 6-4
The offense has dropped off a bit and especially against the top tier teams....In those 10 games SU batting .264, 4.8 runs per game(if u take the 12 runs they put up on cnu out it would be in the 3s) and 2.4 XBHs per game

Why would be why I said "UT-Tyler could go to Millington" not those other teams. I'm glad you felt you needed to say that Linfield, Redlands and Chapman are more than 500 miles from Tennessee. Hardin-Simmons is in the same city as the regional, making them a damn unlikely candidate to be moved. I love when people add things I've already covered.

Methodist hasn't clinched crap. Neither has Salisbury. The South is so weak this year that I don't see being on the bottom of the regional rankings as meaning very much.

Randolph-Macon is in, and technically should have been counted, though I hardly think anyone from the ODAC was a quality win this year.

On another board, it was mentioned that Concordia IL has a dearth of quality wins, and their schedule looks fairly similar to Shenandoah's if you ask me. Shen is in a better league, but this was a really off year for the USAS from the looks of things. Whither Ferrum and NC Wesleyan?

My mistake i misead ur post....easy bro...I agree Methodist and Salisbury havent secure a spot in the regions but are in the talking..so i think justifies them being used

Fair enough on the misread. Sorry to be so jumpy...some people on this board seem to be gunning for me so I'm probably a little defensive.

IIRC, there is a criteria for record against the teams in the tournament. I could be wrong about that...could be projecting that from some other sport or some other level. But that's what I was using. I don't think there's a Nitty Gritty sheet like in D-I basketball where any win over a top 100 team gets consideration.

I miss the days when almost everyone in the Dixie Conference was good. It would be a lot easier to tell more about teams like Shenandoah (and CNU and Methodist) from the conference tournament if the league had the depth it used to.

[Back2Back!!]

forheavendial4999...........You sure do no alot about the USA South and the ODAC for someone who hasn't seen a game all year........Im sure you get bored over there in South Korea but I dont look too far into your opinions personally.

[forheavendial4999]

forheavendial4999...........You sure do no alot about the USA South and the ODAC for someone who hasn't seen a game all year........Im sure you get bored over there in South Korea but I dont look too far into your opinions personally.

I live in the 2nd largest city in Asia and larger than any in the US. I don't lack for things to do. I'm sure it's not the thriving metropolis of Winchester, but then what is.

I haven't always lived in South Korea, you know. I've lived in several different places. It's also fortunate that baseball is a game that lends itself to being followed on paper...especially with the play by plays available through most school sites now.

It's off putting to some just how much you can glean from them if you know what you're doing, without ever having to be at the games...but you can and I often do.

As for what you decide to do with my comments...I really couldn't care less. If people enjoy, appreciate or are enriched by them, great, that's why they're there. If you don't, I really don't care but it's pretty poor form to say so.