BB: Regionals (New England) Harwich '08, '11, ECSU '09, '10

Started by Ralph Turner, May 11, 2008, 11:47:36 PM

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Who will win the ECSU Regional?

Tufts
2 (10.5%)
Wheaton
4 (21.1%)
WNEC
5 (26.3%)
ECSU
5 (26.3%)
Worcester St.
0 (0%)
Westfield St.
1 (5.3%)
UMASS-Boston
1 (5.3%)
St. Joe's
1 (5.3%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: May 19, 2010, 04:01:33 PM

2sportdevil

At first, if he's good enough he can play for the Wenham Truckers and then when he becomes 40, he can play in the Roy Hobbs league

dchevy5

Dgilblair

What Shawn said to you after that final game is one of the nicest, classiest things that I have ever heard.  I know you are super proud of him and you should be.  It will probably be a long time before the LEC sees a player like him again.  My son has told me many times that he has enormous respect for Shawn.  The very best of luck to him as he pursues his dream.

dgilblair

Quote from: dchevy5 on May 21, 2009, 01:18:54 PM
Dgilblair

What Shawn said to you after that final game is one of the nicest, classiest things that I have ever heard.  I know you are super proud of him and you should be.  It will probably be a long time before the LEC sees a player like him again.  My son has told me many times that he has enormous respect for Shawn.  The very best of luck to him as he pursues his dream.

Thanks........very proud of him, four years ago we just hoped coach H would let him pitch and hit.  No need to tell you how fast it goes.  LEC has some players now that contend with him now so I'm not to sure about that.....besides he cheats......he pitches and hits.  I would think more kids could do that if coaches would just let them.  You know, what an advantage to have two players in one.  Schult this year was great doing both and he will be a Junior next year, Musson may do both next year, the kid from RIC has a lot of talent.

Shawns on the five year plan with school so he'll play somewhere this summer and then back to the books.  He was talking about the Schaumburg Flyers wanting him to play for them and some other team so we will see. 

wordsmith

Afternoon gents,

Well so much for Northeast baseball in 2009. 0-4 and out the door to both Trinity and Farmingdale State.

Trinity, not sure what happened there, if we want to be biased we could say the trip through the NE Regional was so difficult it took the wind out of their sails.

As for Farmindale State, welp they got to Wizcanwesin and they remembered they were...Farmingdale State.

So now I turn my rooting interests to The College of Wooster, pronounced wooooooster and spelt wooster not Worcester. The City of Wooster, home of Rubbermaid, home of the most Amish in the country other than Lancaster County PA. and native county of my lovely and talented wife.

Go Scots

Word ;D
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frank uible

I've heard of Wooster - John Dean got his undergraduate degree there, didn't he?

wordsmith

Yes, John Dean is an alumni.

The other thing Wooster is famous for is Smuckers (the jelly people).

I heard from a relative that due to some very tough economic times Smuckers Jelly Company was thinking of merging with a big midwestern oatmeal company named Mothers Oats.

The name of the new company will be ...Mother Smuckers.. ;D ;D

Sorry that is a really old Wayne County joke.

Word 8)
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ecfaninri

Word. .....
Your point about Trinity having to get through the NE regional should not be poo-pooed. I'm sorry but a team like Trinity having to play USM, Conor Fahey and Eastern to get to the CWS could have been run down. Remember, Trinity had to bring in Bayer to close out the Championship game, and he struggled a little bit then.


NESCAC FAN

Trinity lost because it played lousy defense...something that has been it's achilles heel this year and in years past.

Bayer threw so many innings this year....looks like it may have finally caught up. Kean was having alot of very comfortable at-bats.

The regional set up perfectly for Trinity. They were able to get by Westfield without using you know who. They got to use Bayer against SMe. They got WPI in the winner's bracket final without having to face Fahey or their #2. And they hung on vs. Eastern.

But this wasn't the Trinity from last year. Dibenedetto and Bourdon were very solid defensively last year.

Look at Bayer's stats this year. He either gave up an obscene amount of unearned runs, or his best friend was the statistician.

ecfaninri

NESCACfan....
Good points... Trinity did not face Fahey but did have to go through what has been called by other posters - the super regional. But that's history and everyone in NE will just have to regroup and begin the process of prepping for 2010.  It is a hollow feeling after going through a terrific season , making the trip to Appleton. playing two games in two days and then getting on a plane and returning before the holiday weekend is over. I know, been there, done that in 2007.

I still will remember the regional in Willimantic as a classic, not a CWS, but a classic. I got to see 3 of the topr 10 teams in the country and an All-American in Fahey in one place for 5 days. Not bad.

wordsmith

See this is where we need JConn back in the mix to speak to conspiracy theory.

Did the NCAA powers-to-be not want yet another champion from NE?
Did they purposely keep USM, TEE, and the defending champs F, S & HG all in the same region to eliminate 2 of the top 3 teams in the country?
Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?

Jim Garrison we turn our lonely eyes to you 'cause only you can 'splain a conspiracy like this.

From the Grassy Knoll Motel

Clay Shaw ;)
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dgilblair

Quote from: wordsmith on May 24, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
See this is where we need JConn back in the mix to speak to conspiracy theory.

Did the NCAA powers-to-be not want yet another champion from NE?
Did they purposely keep USM, TEE, and the defending champs F, S & HG all in the same region to eliminate 2 of the top 3 teams in the country?
Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?

Jim Garrison we turn our lonely eyes to you 'cause only you can 'splain a conspiracy like this.

From the Grassy Knoll Motel

Clay Shaw ;)

Come on WOrd do you think it coould be true?  Say it ain't so.....say it ain't so.  Do you not think the best 8 teams in the country played in Fox Cities this weekend? Maybe not but you could probably say that every year.  I would still like to see a best of three for the finales of each region and the WS but I don't know how it would or could be done.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: DGilblair on May 24, 2009, 10:31:34 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 24, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
See this is where we need JConn back in the mix to speak to conspiracy theory.

Did the NCAA powers-to-be not want yet another champion from NE?
Did they purposely keep USM, TEE, and the defending champs F, S & HG all in the same region to eliminate 2 of the top 3 teams in the country?
Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?

Jim Garrison we turn our lonely eyes to you 'cause only you can 'splain a conspiracy like this.

From the Grassy Knoll Motel

Clay Shaw ;)

Come on WOrd do you think it coould be true?  Say it ain't so.....say it ain't so.  Do you not think the best 8 teams in the country played in Fox Cities this weekend? Maybe not but you could probably say that every year.  I would still like to see a best of three for the finales of each region and the WS but I don't know how it would or could be done.
Best of three in each region?  Then you are getting into funding and length-of-season questions at that point.

Consider the West Region... Chapman beats NWC Co-champ George Fox in the 11th and final game of the West Region.  Hmmm... NWC Co-champ is the runner-up in the West Region?  Where was the other NWC Co-champ?

The other NWC Co-champ, Pac Lutheran, was sitting home and did not get an at-large Pool C bid.

I think that there is so much parity in D-III baseball that 70 of the 160 teams that start the conference tourneys going after 32 Pool A bids are good enough to be in the Regionals.  We get to see 13 Pool C bids, but that means that about 25 teams are good enough to make the regionals, but proverbially struck out.

dgilblair

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 24, 2009, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 24, 2009, 10:31:34 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 24, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
See this is where we need JConn back in the mix to speak to conspiracy theory.

Did the NCAA powers-to-be not want yet another champion from NE?
Did they purposely keep USM, TEE, and the defending champs F, S & HG all in the same region to eliminate 2 of the top 3 teams in the country?
Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?

Jim Garrison we turn our lonely eyes to you 'cause only you can 'splain a conspiracy like this.

From the Grassy Knoll Motel

Clay Shaw ;)

Come on WOrd do you think it coould be true?  Say it ain't so.....say it ain't so.  Do you not think the best 8 teams in the country played in Fox Cities this weekend? Maybe not but you could probably say that every year.  I would still like to see a best of three for the finales of each region and the WS but I don't know how it would or could be done.
Best of three in each region?  Then you are getting into funding and length-of-season questions at that point.

Consider the West Region... Chapman beats NWC Co-champ George Fox in the 11th and final game of the West Region.  Hmmm... NWC Co-champ is the runner-up in the West Region?  Where was the other NWC Co-champ?

The other NWC Co-champ, Pac Lutheran, was sitting home and did not get an at-large Pool C bid.

I think that there is so much parity in D-III baseball that 70 of the 160 teams that start the conference tourneys going after 32 Pool A bids are good enough to be in the Regionals.  We get to see 13 Pool C bids, but that means that about 25 teams are good enough to make the regionals, but proverbially struck out.

Ralph, I agree about the parity in D3, I said that way back when I first started posting here.  I was surprised at how close the competion was reguardless of record in most cases and I still am.  Pool bids is another issue to me but I see your point.  Money, money, money and D3 doesn't generate any.

Jcon8958

Word

I dont think that there was a conspiracy theory but i do agree 100% that one out of those three teams should have been shipped out instead of WNEC.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: DGilblair on May 24, 2009, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 24, 2009, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 24, 2009, 10:31:34 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 24, 2009, 09:42:23 AM

Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?




Best of three in each region?  Then you are getting into funding and length-of-season questions at that point.

Consider the West Region... Chapman beats NWC Co-champ George Fox in the 11th and final game of the West Region.  Hmmm... NWC Co-champ is the runner-up in the West Region?  Where was the other NWC Co-champ?

The other NWC Co-champ, Pac Lutheran, was sitting home and did not get an at-large Pool C bid.

I think that there is so much parity in D-III baseball that 70 of the 160 teams that start the conference tourneys going after 32 Pool A bids are good enough to be in the Regionals.  We get to see 13 Pool C bids, but that means that about 25 teams are good enough to make the regionals, but proverbially struck out.

Ralph, I agree about the parity in D3, I said that way back when I first started posting here.  I was surprised at how close the competion was reguardless of record in most cases and I still am.  Pool bids is another issue to me but I see your point.  Money, money, money and D3 doesn't generate any.
As for Keeping WNEC in New England and shipping USM to NY, I can see that point.

USM was a Pool C so I can see sending them to the New York Regional.  WNEC was the TCCC Pool A, so I would have kept them in New England.

Didn't ECSU and Trinity basically play "at home"?