BB: Regionals (New England) Harwich '08, '11, ECSU '09, '10

[OshDude]

From the Handbook:
If inclement weather is involved, the last possible time a regional championship game will be permitted to start is 9 p.m. local time Monday, May 23. If the regional representative cannot be determined on the field of play by this time, one team will be selected by the committee.
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Method of determining regional champion if play cannot be completed:
Six-team tournament:
a. Up until one team becomes 3-0, the highest-seeded team that has not been eliminated will advance to the finals in Appleton.
b. If teams have an equal number of losses, the higher-seeded team, as determined by the Baseball Committee before the start of regional play, will advance to the finals in Appleton.
Seven- and Eight-team tournament
a. Up until the completion of game four the highest seeded team will advance to the finals in Appleton.
b. Up until the completion of game 9, the highest-seeded undefeated team will advance to the finals in Appleton.
c. After game 9, the undefeated team will advance to Appleton. If both teams have the same number of losses the higher-seeded team will advance to Appleton.

[hockeyfan77]

After   6   Bridgewater St.     4      Tufts    0

[d3baseballnut]

Why is Tufts starting a reliever against a team with an Ace with a 1.33 ERA?

How about the coaches act like they have played in a regional before.........high seeds (#7/8) normally have an ace that can beat you on day #1.

All coaches should know this.

[wildthngvaughn]

Jcon,
   The Little East is smarter than the rest, as they schedule the tournament to have Sunday as a make up rain day.  Imagine though if the Little East was like the Liberty or NESCAC.  An incredible run like RIC this year or UMASS-Boston last year may have never happened because of the rain.  Ofcourse you can't control the weather and this is all a bunch of ifs, but why even put yourself in the position where a tournament champion is declare without a championship game.
  One big advantage of playing the tournament a week and half before the regional is that you can line up your pitching rotation.  Its tough for a pitcher to throw in the first round of the confernce tournament and then come back on short rest to throw in the conference final only to then try to throw on short rest in either the 1st or 2nd round of the regional.
   One thing though that can completely negate everything that I just said, is when do these schools have finals.  If the conference tournament is schedule around finals, then you do what you have to do, and the scheduling of the tournament is secondary to the scheduling of finals.

[wildthngvaughn]

d3baseballnut
   I don't think that they did.  The box score has Miller starting and he was relieved by Sbilly in the 4th.  Miller had starter 8 games this year and was 3-1 with a 1.84 ERA in 44 innings 

[wildthngvaughn]

What a great job d3cast is doing on these games.  This is just simply amazing, whether it be the multiple camera angles, the slow motion instant reply, the stats for each player, unbelievable job!!!

[rob]

The other point I'd like to make, I just don't buy the Conference Tourney thing at all. One team gets hot and wins maybe 3/4 games and bang they go to the NC2As while another team that has taken on all comers all season and won the regular season title gets dumped into the "somewhat" arbitrary at-large pool. Why even play the regular season? I guess I am too dang old school but to see a really good team in an average but decent conference slip up on 1 weekend that happens to fall on Conf Tourney weekend and then have nothing to show for it just seems unfair.  

I have to agree with you on this.  If Regional bids weren't at stake it wouldn't matter as much.

[hockeyfan77]

Final     Bridgewater St.     4      Tufts    0

[d3baseballnut]

d3baseballnut
   I don't think that they did.  The box score has Miller starting and he was relieved by Sbilly in the 4th.  Miller had starter 8 games this year and was 3-1 with a 1.84 ERA in 44 innings 

my bad. Well then was Miller hurt? Its hard for me to beleive that you yank him after 2 runs

[wildthngvaughn]

Mitchell puts up a good fight losing to Cortland St. 3-1. 

[Stump]

I think I have mentioned this before so forgive an old man's memory. And I realize this will not happen but alas I digress.

Too bad college baseball couldn't become a fall sport. Weather-wise esp. in the Northeast would make a lot more sense. I realize there are issues, i.e. summer leagues, draft eligibility, how to get pitchers ready without 2 months of throwing in a gym off a wooden ramp  .

The other point I'd like to make, I just don't buy the Conference Tourney thing at all. One team gets hot and wins maybe 3/4 games and bang they go to the NC2As while another team that has taken on all comers all season and won the regular season title gets dumped into the "somewhat" arbitrary at-large pool. Why even play the regular season? I guess I am too dang old school but to see a really good team in an average but decent conference slip up on 1 weekend that happens to fall on Conf Tourney weekend and then have nothing to show for it just seems unfair.  

And one more thing...who the hell is controlling the weather? this rain and mist crap has got to stop...I am NOT living in London for Godsake, my teeth are too good to be from there. My vitamin D is on life-support, my bi-polar has become bi-polar-unbearable and I have a super dose of the crankies.  


Still it doesn't matter because Rev. Whathisname is saying the world will end on May 21st anyway. Say, will they have to declare a champion if the NE Regional isn't finished by then? Is there a rule in the rule book about If the World Ends Before a Regional Champion Can Be Determined on the Field then WTF do we do clause?

Bi-Word

Word,

I've always said that baseball in NE should be a fall sport, the only problem is when it comes to time for tourneys is when the weather starts going to sh-t.  My son played fall ball for many years and it was quite enjoyable until after Columbus Day.  Maybe play the league schedules through Columbus Day and move all the tourneys South, instead of playing preseason down south and then coming North to fight sh-tty spring weather to get your schedule in.

I always appreciate your insight on the issues like the world ending,  we can always count on Word to add perspective to pressing issues.

Thanks again, you are always entertaining. Keeps me from wanting to hunt down a meteorologist and doing unspeakable things to him.

[wordsmith]

Stump,

Thanks for the kind words...your sycophant attitude has enabled me to exist on this board for 4 years.

You are right about fall weather...back in the day when D-III Teams were allowed to play weekend games in the fall (remember that rule 1 game only so the teams would play for like 14 or so innings?). The weather really does go downhill fast after Native American Day.

I am off to wAtch the movie 2012. I really can identify with Woody Harrelson's character.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47-EY2D6GgM&feature=related

Word

[wordsmith]

Coach Will will have the boys stoked for the Wheaties....Beware this is a tough match-up for Wheaton. An upset would not surprise me.

Never underestimate Coach Will Sanborn (The Hardest Workin' Man in Show Business) and the Fightin' Monks!

St. Joe's 4 Wheaties 2 Final


Word

[Stump]

Stump,

Thanks for the kind words...your sycophant attitude has enabled me to exist on this board for 4 years.

You are right about fall weather...back in the day when D-III Teams were allowed to play weekend games in the fall (remember that rule 1 game only so the teams would play for like 14 or so innings?). The weather really does go downhill fast after Native American Day.

I am off to wAtch the movie 2012. I really can identify with Woody Harrelson's character.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47-EY2D6GgM&feature=related

Word

Thanks for the correction! I did not mean to offend anyone with the reference to Columbus Day   Sorry for my political incorrectness

[JustAFan]

D3Nut, your comment is right on.  However, the starter Miller only pitched 1 inning for Tufts--the game box score is wrong.  Sbily pitched 6 2/3 for Tufts, giving up 2 runs on a home run. A strong performance for a freshman in a difficult situation.

In talking with a Tufts parent after the game he said it looked like Miller had a re-occurence of some shoulder problems that he suffered a few weeks ago.  If Miller is injured it means Tufts has now lost two weekend starters in the past 2 weeks.  The Tufts parents told me that Tufts lost Kevin Gilchrist, their #1 pitcher, 2 weeks ago in the Bowdoin series, where he broke his hand, and they also lost Matt Collins, their starting catcher and one of its best hitters, in that same series with a broken arm.  Tufts was able to win its league despite these losses but it's very hard to succeed in the regional tournament without 2 weekend starters and your starting catcher.