BB: Regionals (New York) Auburn NY '08, SUNY-Old Westbury '09, Cortland State '10, '11

[Ralph Turner]

Bottom 3
Clarkson 6 RPI 1

If RPI wins, it will play Farmingdale State in the championship round. If Clarkson wins, RPI must play Farmingdale State for the right to move on the title game - I think.

http://www.farmingdalesports.com/sports/bsb/2009/ncaa/schedule

Wed     13     #1         #1 Cortland  vs.  #6 Clarkson        Final        12 - 15  Clarkson    
 
Wed    13    #2      #2 Ithaca vs. #5 Western New England      Final      5 - 16  WNEC
 
Wed    13    #3      #3 Rensselaer vs. #4 Farmingdale      Final      5 - 4    RPI

   
Thu    14    #4      #1 Cortland vs. #2 Ithaca      Final      3 - 2  Cortland   (Ithaca eliminated)

Thu    14    #5      #6 Clarkson vs. #4 Farmingdale      Final      10 - 19   Farmingdale

   
Fri    15    #6      #5 Western New England vs. #3 Rensselaer      Final      1 - 3  RPI
 
Fri    15    #7      #6 Clarkson vs. #5 Western New England      Final      5 - 2     Clarkson    (WNEC eliminated)

Fri    15    #8      #1 Cortland vs. #4 Farmingdale      Final      4 - 6  Farmingdale   (Cortland Eliminated)   


Sat    16    #9      #3 Rensselaer vs. #6 Clarkson      Final      11 - 10  (Clarkson eliminated)       
     
Sat    16    #10      #4 Farmingdale vs.#3  RPI       3:30 p.m.      
     
Sat    16    #11      TBA vs. TBA  

[Ralph Turner]

Bottom 4
Clarkson 9 RPI 5

Last one to score wins.

+1!
RPI scored 3 in the bottom of the 9th to win, 11-10.

[lordcharles]

if Farmingdale holds on, will they make RPI play a third game tonight-or will that game be tomorrow?

schedule still says tonight but I thought I heard the RPI announcer say Sunday.

Thanks for the info

[lordcharles]

if Farmingdale holds on, will they make RPI play a third game tonight-or will that game be tomorrow?

schedule still says tonight but I thought I heard the RPI announcer say Sunday.

Thanks for the info

ahh- just got my answer and saved a trip on the LI expressway- it would be tommorow at 3 PM per the RPI announcers

[John McGraw]

Yeah, no way that RPI is going to play three games in one day. 13-4 in the top of the ninth.

[John McGraw]

13-9 final

RPI and Farmingdale State will play a winner-take-all game tomorrow for the right to go to Wisconsin.

[scuba16]

Can anyone explain the ny regional bracket setup? Does it make sense to anyone? I'm so confused. 6 teams, winners bracket teams playing teams in the losers bracket??? Seems ass backwards.

[rbgosfan]

Congratulations to Farmingdale for earning the trip to Appleton. Coming back from losing game 1 and going the distance is quite an accomplishment. Well done!

[BaseB13]

Count me in as being wrong about Farmingdale.  Despite playing in a weak conference they're clearly a legit team.

[wordsmith]

Congrats to the Farmingdale Rams for holding strong and winning the NY Regional.

Good luck in Appleton, Wiscanwesin.

Sincerely,

Word

[Pat Coleman]

Can anyone explain the ny regional bracket setup? Does it make sense to anyone? I'm so confused. 6 teams, winners bracket teams playing teams in the losers bracket??? Seems ass backwards.

I saw an explanation on the other board that may shed light on the subject -- the six-team bracket is set up so that the winner has to win at least four games to advance. I think that if you gave the top seeds a bye that would make it possible that a team could get out of the six-team regionals with just three wins. Six- and eight-team regionals already have their differences, but this would exaggerate those, I think.

[AlleyCat]

Pat,
After looking at it the only thing that didn't seem right was that RPI was 3-0 and was at a disadvantage having to play a second game the day the championship started and Farmingdale, which they had already beat, sat back and relaxed as RPI had a tough game with Clarkson. I would think that in that case they should have played 2 the next day so everything would have been fair. RPI was at a disadvantage even though they were the 3-0 team. I understand that they want the winner to 4 games but, was that the best way to go? Don't get me wrong Farmingdale was deserving, but I thought being 3-0 would get a tema something. Usually the undefeated tema has some advantage because the other temas have had to play more to get to them.

[John McGraw]

Pat,
After looking at it the only thing that didn't seem right was that RPI was 3-0 and was at a disadvantage having to play a second game the day the championship started and Farmingdale, which they had already beat, sat back and relaxed as RPI had a tough game with Clarkson. I would think that in that case they should have played 2 the next day so everything would have been fair. RPI was at a disadvantage even though they were the 3-0 team. I understand that they want the winner to 4 games but, was that the best way to go? Don't get me wrong Farmingdale was deserving, but I thought being 3-0 would get a tema something. Usually the undefeated tema has some advantage because the other temas have had to play more to get to them.

The schedule was thrown off because of a rain out on the second day of the tournament that forced the RPI-Western New England game to be played on Friday instead of Thursday night.

[rbgosfan]

The other thing to remember is that the regional format is established by the NCAA and is the same for all 5 regions that are 5 team tournaments. John is right, in that the rain Thursday night changed the schedule and ultimately hurt RPI by first backing them up on the weekend and then secondly having Mondo come back on Sunday with 1 day rest instead of 2.  The other thing that turned the NY region upside down was the number of upsets. If things go according to seed then only 4 teams are left after day 2 instead of 5 and the remaining days then play different. When Clarkson upset Cortland and then lost to Farmindale on day 2 that caused the extra team and the additional games required for RPI. While the  team format is not great, I like it better than the old 7 team format the NCAA used where the 1 seed got a bye in the first round and played a second round game at the end of day 1 against a team that had already lost earlier in the day. It would be nice if we could get to all regionals being 8 teams but that would require more travel to fill in some of the regions with fewer AQs.

[Ralph Turner]

... It would be nice if we could get to all regionals being 8 teams but that would require more travel to fill in some of the regions with fewer AQs.

Getting to a 64- team tournament will require the NCAA to change the funding level of all sponsored sports.  In the most popular sports, such as women's basketball and women's soccer,  the NCAA is approaching the maximums for a 1 bid for every 6.5 institutions (416 teams) to give a full 64-team bracket.
Baseball only has about 350+ teams.