BB: Regionals (Midwest) Oshkosh '08, '09, Whitewater '10, '11

[dukes]

CSS now up 14-6 after 5 runs in the top of the 8th (Gaub 2 rbi, Marshik 2 rbi, Eller rbi triple).

It would have been nice to have that a few innings ago so Lanari would not have been used.

[dukes]

Final Score CSS 15 - 7 over Knox.

A combined 17 walks, and 5 errors sounds like the effects of throwing down in the rotation and saving some of the top pitching. It sounded like a long game, and would have been frustrating to see all those walks with a lead, but in the end they get the win.

The next game should be exciting....Oshkosh win could put them back to within a game of the championship. 

[cubs]

Intersting....  Rubens is not starting for Oshkosh.  Freshman Evan Matson instead.

[supermiac]

Intersting....  Rubens is not starting for Oshkosh.  Freshman Evan Matson instead.

Very interesting...and very stupid. There is no reason to "save" Rubens for relief or a start in the next game if St. Thomas jumps on this freshman right away. I think that is a verrrry poor choice by Oshkosh's coaching staff. Pitching any freshman over one of the better pitchers in the country against probably one of the best hitting teams in the country in essentially a do-or-die game? Come on. That's unbelievable. I hope St. Thomas tears them apart just for doing that.

[BaseballFan]

Intersting....  Rubens is not starting for Oshkosh.  Freshman Evan Matson instead.

Very interesting...and very stupid. There is no reason to "save" Rubens for relief or a start in the next game if St. Thomas jumps on this freshman right away. I think that is a verrrry poor choice by Oshkosh's coaching staff. Pitching any freshman over one of the better pitchers in the country against probably one of the best hitting teams in the country in essentially a do-or-die game? Come on. That's unbelievable. I hope St. Thomas tears them apart just for doing that.

Wow if they dont throw Rubens you think they would of went with Hendricks....well Oshkosh is already down 2-0

[cubs]

Intersting....  Rubens is not starting for Oshkosh.  Freshman Evan Matson instead.

Very interesting...and very stupid. There is no reason to "save" Rubens for relief or a start in the next game if St. Thomas jumps on this freshman right away. I think that is a verrrry poor choice by Oshkosh's coaching staff. Pitching any freshman over one of the better pitchers in the country against probably one of the best hitting teams in the country in essentially a do-or-die game? Come on. That's unbelievable. I hope St. Thomas tears them apart just for doing that.

Tell me this.....  What is the difference between going two and out or 2-2?  Neither gets you to Appleton, so why not roll the dice?  I'm not going to question a guy that has won 600 games AND a National Championship during his career.

[dukes]

Intersting....  Rubens is not starting for Oshkosh.  Freshman Evan Matson instead.

Very interesting...and very stupid. There is no reason to "save" Rubens for relief or a start in the next game if St. Thomas jumps on this freshman right away. I think that is a verrrry poor choice by Oshkosh's coaching staff. Pitching any freshman over one of the better pitchers in the country against probably one of the best hitting teams in the country in essentially a do-or-die game? Come on. That's unbelievable. I hope St. Thomas tears them apart just for doing that.

Tell me this.....  What is the difference between going two and out or 2-2?  Neither gets you to Appleton, so why not roll the dice?  I'm not going to question a guy that has won 600 games AND a National Championship during his career.

Well, I personally think there is a difference. Yes, neither earns you the right to Appleton, but in my opinion when you are playing an elimination game and you KNOW you are seeing the St. Thomas ace, I think you should bring the same. If you do save Rubens for the "next game", if you make it chances are you are matching him up against the UWW #3 or Carthage #3, which then you know runs should be on the board more than when facing an ace. And you are right, to their credit they have won a lot of games and it is their choice to go about it this way. If it works...genius, if not I think it would be a crappy feeling leaving the regional without throwing your top guy.

[janesvilleflash]

Maybe he's sick or has a sore arm?

[dukes]

Maybe he's sick or has a sore arm?

Maybe, but in my opinion, as a player (especially the team ace) neither would matter when it came to regionals and playoffs. But maybe...

[supermiac]

Tell me this.....  What is the difference between going two and out or 2-2?  Neither gets you to Appleton, so why not roll the dice?  I'm not going to question a guy that has won 600 games AND a National Championship during his career.
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The difference is, you have to win an extra game if you lose one games in regionals. Knowing that, I would take ZERO chances, especially against a team like St. Thomas, who arguably is the best hitting team in the regional. You try to get to the winner's side of the regional as fast as you can THEN worry about pitching because you have two games to get a win.

[cubs]

One other thing that I want to add.....

Oshkosh will return EVERY player on their roster except their #3 pitcher next season (Hendricks.)  Maybe the thought is also to get a young guy some experience so that gains some REAL experience for next season and you won't have to "overwork" guys like Rubens and Demmin like this season.

[REDMENFAN]

Man, Lechnir not afraid to publicly let his players have it.  Here's the article in the milwaukee journal sentinal today.  Towards the end of the article he lets the pitcher from yesterday have it pretty good.  Not saying whether him doing this is good or bad, just making a factual statement.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=751192

[RedmenBigD]

Posted On the Rockland Regional Board

Linfield-5
IWU-4

IWU OUT...

[cubs]

The difference is, you have to win an extra game if you lose one games in regionals. Knowing that, I would take ZERO chances, especially against a team like St. Thomas, who arguably is the best hitting team in the regional. You try to get to the winner's side of the regional as fast as you can THEN worry about pitching because you have two games to get a win.

Oshkosh already has a loss, so your point is kind of moot....  They have to win EVERY game in order to win the Regional, so the "two games to get a win" isn't really true.

[cubs]

Lonnie Robinson with a Perfect Game through four innings, with St. Thomas leading 2-0.  (Both runs unearned in the 1st inning)