BB: Regionals (Midwest) Oshkosh '08, '09, Whitewater '10, '11

[Just Bill]

Oshkosh Regional web page:

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/2009OshkoshBaseballRegional/index.html

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I really do not think some of you give some teams in the NAC enough credit. Whitewater is swept by CUW who does not even make the confrence tournament in the NAC this weekend.

CUC beats IWU, Carthage and a few others and has made it 30 wins this season

Aurora is 27-11 and if you look at their schedule, beat some teams who at the top of their confrence such as Webster twice. and are batting over 350 as a team and has a pitching staff in the top ten in the nation in E.R.A.

Rockford is no push over either by any means. They are a scrappy ball club.

[BaseballFan]

I really do not think some of you give some teams in the NAC enough credit. Whitewater is swept by CUW who does not even make the confrence tournament in the NAC this weekend.

CUC beats IWU, Carthage and a few others and has made it 30 wins this season

Aurora is 27-11 and if you look at their schedule, beat some teams who at the top of their confrence such as Webster twice. and are batting over 350 as a team and has a pitching staff in the top ten in the nation in E.R.A.

Rockford is no push over either by any means. They are a scrappy ball club.

The NAC should hope that everyone underestimates them and maybe teams will throw off and not have to face the aces of some teams (Schuld, Kummet, Dott, Burg, etc)

[ShineTime]

Platteville would win the NAC no doubt about it and they couldn't finish top 4 in the WIAC.

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Platteville would win the NAC no doubt about it and they couldn't finish top 4 in the WIAC.

How could you say that when CUW just swept Whitewater and they didnt even finish in the top four in the NAC.

[Dagger]

You're underestimating the NAC a wee bit shinetime....I in no way think that any of them will be very competitive in the midwest regional, not with the WIAC and the MIAC around!  BUT Platteville would not win the conference hands down...they would be top 4 yes, maybe top 3 but there are some good clubs in the nac with both concoridias, aurora, rockford...

as far as the amazing numbers from aurora, lets not forget that a good majority of the conference is worse than some of the good highschoool teams in the state, so a great team BA and low ERA is expected if you are even a remotely good team in that conference.  If UWO, UWSP, or UWW played MSOE, Maranatha, and some of those teams regularly they would have ridiculous numbers!  You don't get bids by having good team stats!  And the reason I just mentioned is part of the reason why, play solid competition and put up W's and great numbers and then come back and ask for a bid!  maybe it's not always fair (the bids) but the NAC just is not the caliber of the WIAC and the MIAC so teams with similar records from those conferences are going to see the MIAC and WIAC teams go through and leave the NAC at home...it's just part of playing in a weaker conference.  You either need to win the automatic bid, or put up an absolutely ridiculous regular season record to get the bid, having similar numbers to a bigger more successful school (historically) is going to see the small guys left behind.

I believe this year however with the WIAC being in a slump that two teams from the NAC could represent the midwest as well as two teams from the WIAC could.

[Dagger]

Platteville would win the NAC no doubt about it and they couldn't finish top 4 in the WIAC.

How could you say that when CUW just swept Whitewater and they didnt even finish in the top four in the NAC.

First of all, WW did not pitch anybody against them.  They have a conference tournament coming up which if they don't win they are staying home this year...and secondly they are inconsistent this year with the bats.  I don't believe platteville would win the NAC, I think they would be 3-4!

[Just Bill]

Platteville would win the NAC no doubt about it and they couldn't finish top 4 in the WIAC.

Not a chance.  Edgewood, the eighth place team in the NAC had Platteville down 6-2 after 8. EC's fourth starter had struck out 13 Pioneers.  If not for a ninth inning bullpen implosion they would have won comfortably.

http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2009/stats/2009bb33.htm

No way UWP finishes ahead of either CUC, Aurora or Rockford this year. ShineTime, the Master of Hyperbole, strikes again!

[BigPoppa]

How about this for 2010? The WIAC/NAC shootout. Match the top with the top and the bottom with the bottom. Best overall record wins the series. I think the CCIW and SLIAC or MWC should do this as well. Would bring some regional rivalries together. Have a local complex host it in a one or two-day event with multiple games playing at once. It would be fun to watch and a fan could see everybody in one place.

[high and inside]

Platteville would win the NAC no doubt about it and they couldn't finish top 4 in the WIAC.

Not a chance.  Edgewood, the eighth place team in the NAC had Platteville down 6-2 after 8. EC's fourth starter had struck out 13 Pioneers.  If not for a ninth inning bullpen implosion they would have won comfortably.

http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2009/stats/2009bb33.htm

No way UWP finishes ahead of either CUC, Aurora or Rockford this year. ShineTime, the Master of Hyperbole, strikes again!

I agree and do you know for a fact that CUW pitched their top guys too. You have to remember they just came off a four game weekend in which they were fighting for a spot in the NAC tournament, so i dont think there pitching staff was at full strength either.

Im not saying that the NAC is better then the WIAC, I just think that this season compared to the last one, the confrences seem pretty equal to me

[Dagger]

I think the conferences this year are certainly about as equal as they have ever been!  That's why I think the midwest region wouldn't be hurt by having one wiac and two NAC teams representing this year.

[Bigslugfest9000]

I think that the NAC has some great teams that can compete with anyone........ CUC is probably the best overall team in that conference, they can hit and they got 3 good starters.............  For those of you who say they have played weak competition that is wrong....... CUC has beaten Illinois Wesleyan and Carthage by a good amount of runs..... They have also beat other schools like Augustana and Webster........  Their in region record is also very good.......  As for Aurora and Rockford those are two good teams as well....... Aurora is a team with also good hitting and good pitching......  Yes the NAC does have some weak teams, but the top 6 teams in that conference can play with anybody.

[OshDude]

Platteville would win the NAC no doubt about it and they couldn't finish top 4 in the WIAC.

How could you say that when CUW just swept Whitewater and they didnt even finish in the top four in the NAC.

First of all, WW did not pitch anybody against them.  They have a conference tournament coming up which if they don't win they are staying home this year...and secondly they are inconsistent this year with the bats.  I don't believe platteville would win the NAC, I think they would be 3-4!

UWW threw Dott (SP game 1), Hooper (SP game 2), Hanson, Lovera, Lee and Schmitz against CUW. That just may be their top six. If that's not their top six it's pretty close to it.

CUW didn't throw its ace (Pankow). The guy who beat UWW with a CG ... it was his first start of the year, according to CUW's stats. After the CG W his ERA is 7.50. CUW has one guy with an ERA under 5, and he didn't pitch against UWW.

[BoBo]

Platteville would win the NAC no doubt about it and they couldn't finish top 4 in the WIAC.

How could you say that when CUW just swept Whitewater and they didnt even finish in the top four in the NAC.

First of all, WW did not pitch anybody against them.  They have a conference tournament coming up which if they don't win they are staying home this year...and secondly they are inconsistent this year with the bats.  I don't believe platteville would win the NAC, I think they would be 3-4!

UWW threw Dott (SP game 1), Hooper (SP game 2), Hanson, Lovera, Lee and Schmitz against CUW. That just may be their top six. If that's not their top six it's pretty close to it.

CUW didn't throw its ace (Pankow). The guy who beat UWW with a CG ... it was his first start of the year, according to CUW's stats. After the CG W his ERA is 7.50. CUW has one guy with an ERA under 5, and he didn't pitch against UWW.

It should be noted that Dott only went 5.0 innings in game one, gave up 2 hits, no runs or walks, with 6 SO's.  In a normal (conference) game, he probably would've continued and been in position to take a win.  The bullpen gave up 2 runs in each the 7th and 9th to take the loss.  UWW's lack of offensive punch reared it's ugly head again by not putting away the competition and keeping the score within reach.  This season long lack of offensive firepower is likely going to lead to their early exit in the WIAC tournament, IMO.  Nevertheless, it's been a WIAC championship season - although going into the season, more was expected. But, a lot of things happened that were out of the ordinary (seemed to be a conference-wide affliction, however).

[ShineTime]

I think it's fairly obvious this year that a WIAC team won't make it to Appleton.  Like I stated all year if Whitewater wouldn't have had the bad luck with injuries and would've had all the guys back they were supposed to they would've been my favorite to win it this year.  Oshkosh has also had horrible luck losing Demmin and Reubens.  I'm not saying Point has no chance because they do have some solid pitchers but I just don't trust the consistency with the sticks.  I'm really nervous about facing Dott tomorrow on his home field.  Hopefully the defense will be sharp and we will only give up 1 maybe 2 runs.