BB: Regionals (Midwest) Oshkosh '08, '09, Whitewater '10, '11

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high and inside

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2009, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: high and inside on May 10, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
Why not put Aurora into the mix. They are 29-13 on the season and lost  to CUC in the NAC final. CUC is def one of the hottest teams right now, and Aurora did beat them twice already this season.

I think that they should be compared to WW right now.

Not gonna happen. The chances for a team to get in without appearing in the final regional rankings are almost non-existent.

Yea i agree with what your saying, but it just seems like WW is not deserving of that last spot.

They have lost quite a few games down the stretch to teams that were way sub-par. Plus i think the two loses to CUW after the last regional rankings hurts them as well. That has to be added in.

BaseballFan

Quote from: high and inside on May 10, 2009, 11:34:20 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2009, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: high and inside on May 10, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
Why not put Aurora into the mix. They are 29-13 on the season and lost  to CUC in the NAC final. CUC is def one of the hottest teams right now, and Aurora did beat them twice already this season.

I think that they should be compared to WW right now.

Not gonna happen. The chances for a team to get in without appearing in the final regional rankings are almost non-existent.

Yea i agree with what your saying, but it just seems like WW is not deserving of that last spot.

They have lost quite a few games down the stretch to teams that were way sub-par. Plus i think the two loses to CUW after the last regional rankings hurts them as well. That has to be added in.

If UWW doesnt get the last spot then that spot will be going to a team outside of the midwest in my opinion.

BaseballFan

1.   St. Olaf  (29-12)
2.   St. Thomas  (31-10)
3.   St. Scholastica  (35-5)
4.   St. Norbert  (23-13)
5.   Wis.-Stevens Point  (29-14)
6.   Beloit  (28-7)

UWW gets 3 seed in Central WOW

I think Olaf and CSS get nice first round matchups but will definately be interesting since Norbert and Beloit dont play the minnesota schools so they dont know each other that well

OshDude

Quote from: BaseballFan on May 11, 2009, 02:23:29 AM
1.   St. Olaf  (29-12)
2.   St. Thomas  (31-10)
3.   St. Scholastica  (35-5)
4.   St. Norbert  (23-13)
5.   Wis.-Stevens Point  (29-14)
6.   Beloit  (28-7)

UWW gets 3 seed in Central WOW

I think Olaf and CSS get nice first round matchups but will definately be interesting since Norbert and Beloit dont play the minnesota schools so they dont know each other that well
The Toms get UWSP? Wow, what a horrible day for UST! No clue how SNC is ahead of UWSP. Anyone have an answer to that?

I was fairly certain about UWW. Shoulda trusted that same instinct and put Etta in there for the same reason: an awesome schedule with very good wins.

Glad Millsaps got shipped to Moline. At least it doesn't look like the Carthage Invite like it could have (without UWW and MC).

BaseballFan

Quote from: OshDude on May 11, 2009, 02:51:20 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 11, 2009, 02:23:29 AM
1.   St. Olaf  (29-12)
2.   St. Thomas  (31-10)
3.   St. Scholastica  (35-5)
4.   St. Norbert  (23-13)
5.   Wis.-Stevens Point  (29-14)
6.   Beloit  (28-7)

UWW gets 3 seed in Central WOW

I think Olaf and CSS get nice first round matchups but will definately be interesting since Norbert and Beloit dont play the minnesota schools so they dont know each other that well
The Toms get UWSP? Wow, what a horrible day for UST! No clue how SNC is ahead of UWSP. Anyone have an answer to that?

I was fairly certain about UWW. Shoulda trusted that same instinct and put Etta in there for the same reason: an awesome schedule with very good wins.

Glad Millsaps got shipped to Moline. At least it doesn't look like the Carthage Invite like it could have (without UWW and MC).

Yea I dont know how St. Norbert got ahead of Point considering Point had a tougher schedule and better win percentage but thats the way it goes sometimes

ShineTime

The committee must have been doing crack-cocaine when they did the Midwest.  How in the hell is Point not the number 1 seed?  They won the WIAC(the best conference in D3) and are a f'n 5 seed.  On top of it they get to play the 2nd best team in the region in St. Thomas.  I thought the basketball bracket was a joke but this put me over the edge.  I'll be hanging from a tree tonight over this one.  This is the most embarrassing bracket and seeding I have ever seen in my lifetime.  Did any of these people on the committee even graduate high school?

cubs

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2009, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: high and inside on May 10, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
Why not put Aurora into the mix. They are 29-13 on the season and lost  to CUC in the NAC final. CUC is def one of the hottest teams right now, and Aurora did beat them twice already this season.

I think that they should be compared to WW right now.

Not gonna happen. The chances for a team to get in without appearing in the final regional rankings are almost non-existent.
Yet Whitewater pulls it off this year, as they were not ranked in the final Regional Rankings....
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2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

ShineTime

Whitewater does not belong in regionals and yet got a #3 seed and Point gets a #5.  Once again St. Scholastica plays no one all year and loses 5 games so they get a high seed.  Is the committee every going to learn that they play cupcakes and are not a good team?  How many years in a row does Point have to beat them?

BigPoppa

Quote from: cubs on May 11, 2009, 10:18:01 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2009, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: high and inside on May 10, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
Why not put Aurora into the mix. They are 29-13 on the season and lost  to CUC in the NAC final. CUC is def one of the hottest teams right now, and Aurora did beat them twice already this season.

I think that they should be compared to WW right now.

Not gonna happen. The chances for a team to get in without appearing in the final regional rankings are almost non-existent.
Yet Whitewater pulls it off this year, as they were not ranked in the final Regional Rankings....

Someone did it last year, too. Though I cannot recall who it was. It rarely happens, but it is possible if the favorties win the Pool A bids.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

d3baseballnut

Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
Whitewater does not belong in regionals and yet got a #3 seed and Point gets a #5.  Once again St. Scholastica plays no one all year and loses 5 games so they get a high seed.  Is the committee every going to learn that they play cupcakes and are not a good team?  How many years in a row does Point have to beat them?

I agree that ranking UWSP under UWW after USWP won the WIAC is ludicrous. UWW went 3-2 the last weekend, lost the tournament, and that propelled them above the team that won the tournament and was originially ranked ahead of them????....logical?

BigPoppa

CSS played St. Thomas x3, UW-Lacrosse, Penn State-Behrend, Manhattanville,etc... they made an effort to play some quality teams.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

ShineTime

I'm sure Point would've been more than happy to travel to the easier regional and Whitewater could've came to Oshkosh.  Point is basically a top 15 team in the country right now and their a 5 seed.  D3 is almost getting to the point where it's not worth paying attention too.  The committee screws things up in every sport.  I still haven't gotten over that St. Thomas and Point played 2nd round for basketball.  They've figured it out in high school that you need to seed properly so the best teams make the state tournament but they can't figure it out for college.

biggio34

Seedings are always going to be questioned and scrutinized, either way, this regional is going to be extremely fun to watch!

BigPoppa

Seedings a re pretty irrelavant... you have to be the best team there in order to move on.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

biggio34

Yup, the key decision for each program is to determine who they throw in game 1.  If you can win Game 1 with your third or fourth starter and save 1 and 2, you are going to be in a very good position no matter what seed you go in as.