BB: Regionals (Midwest) Oshkosh '08, '09, Whitewater '10, '11

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02 Warhawk

Quote from: OshDude on May 24, 2011, 10:18:43 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 24, 2011, 09:41:52 AM
I'm probably in the minority but in my opinion these events belong on campus.
I'm in your camp. Countless reasons why, but I'll just say I agree with you.
That makes three of us.. :)

BigPoppa

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 24, 2011, 10:46:12 AM
Quote from: OshDude on May 24, 2011, 10:18:43 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 24, 2011, 09:41:52 AM
I'm probably in the minority but in my opinion these events belong on campus.
I'm in your camp. Countless reasons why, but I'll just say I agree with you.
That makes three of us.. :)

Agree as well. Plus it is a great way for D3 schools to show off their facilities to potential recruits.
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02 Warhawk

And I doubt Point fans would be bringing this up if UWSP ever hosted a regional with Point winning it.

Then maybe us UWW fans would be the ones making a big deal out of it... :-\

cubs

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 24, 2011, 10:48:19 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 24, 2011, 10:46:12 AM
Quote from: OshDude on May 24, 2011, 10:18:43 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 24, 2011, 09:41:52 AM
I'm probably in the minority but in my opinion these events belong on campus.
I'm in your camp. Countless reasons why, but I'll just say I agree with you.
That makes three of us.. :)
Agree as well. Plus it is a great way for D3 schools to show off their facilities to potential recruits.
That makes five of us.....  Have the event on campus, where games have been being played for the past two months.
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BigPoppa

Quote from: Just Bill on May 24, 2011, 09:02:33 AM
St. Cloud would be a fine site too.

The sad truth is that most schools just don't want to host a baseball regional. It comes after school is out so it's a chore to get student workers and most athletic staff are looking to be done for the year. Because it's predetermined there's no guarantee your team will be participating. And like I said in my other post, it's just a bigger committment than a basketball pod or some other sport. This past year, the NCAA was practically begging for someone to host the South regional, until Rhodes begrundingly offered to host in Millington.

There's a very good reason why some regionals rarely or never move around. There's a very limited number of schools interested in the first place.

And St. Cloud has TWO amazing fields right next door to each other... games could be staggered or even a second practice field for BP. I love taking my high school kids there to play.
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Dagger

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 24, 2011, 10:56:31 AM
And I doubt Point fans would be bringing this up if UWSP ever hosted a regional with Point winning it.

Then maybe us UWW fans would be the ones making a big deal out of it... :-\

Dude get over yourself!  This has nothing to do with point losing, I don't know how much more clearly I can say that!  As I stated before I had already been discussing this topic well before games were even played, and I most certainly would have brought it up had point won too!  It's not fair...now as we move forward there will be no mention of teams, because the names of the schools DONT MATTER, are you with me here...that a #1 seed earns the top spot and is rewarded with a disadvantage by playing a lower seed in their home field.  That's all I was saying, and was simply asking for other people's opinions on the setup...pretty innocent and simple question...why this getting spun around as a point vs WW thing I have no idea!  I'm a big boy now, and I can genuinely say that if point lost I'm happy that WW won to at least represent the WIAC.

As for the rest of the adults that have been commenting...I understand the whole picture and everything that it takes to put together a regional, and I also agree that keeping it on campus is a good idea, I'm just saying it's a flawed system that's all.  I'm not a coach or an AD or anything, but if I'm a less successful school that rarely if ever makes regionals and I have amenities that would qualify me to host, I would be putting in bids every year to bring people to my facilities and campus!  Would that not be a good chance to get your program some recognition?   

02 Warhawk

Quote from: Dagger on May 24, 2011, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 24, 2011, 10:56:31 AM
And I doubt Point fans would be bringing this up if UWSP ever hosted a regional with Point winning it.

Then maybe us UWW fans would be the ones making a big deal out of it... :-\

Dude get over yourself!  This has nothing to do with point losing, I don't know how much more clearly I can say that!  As I stated before I had already been discussing this topic well before games were even played, and I most certainly would have brought it up had point won too!  It's not fair...now as we move forward there will be no mention of teams, because the names of the schools DONT MATTER, are you with me here...that a #1 seed earns the top spot and is rewarded with a disadvantage by playing a lower seed in their home field.  That's all I was saying, and was simply asking for other people's opinions on the setup...pretty innocent and simple question...why this getting spun around as a point vs WW thing I have no idea!  I'm a big boy now, and I can genuinely say that if point lost I'm happy that WW won to at least represent the WIAC.
 

I guess in a perfect world, yea, teams with the #1 seed should get home field. But unfortunately it's not that easy, and it doesn't work that way. Just as Just Bill pointed out to you a couple of times....dude.

The system has its flaws...like most DIII post seasons do. As fans there's nothing we can do about it. Sometimes it'll give a team an advantage, sometimes it doesn't. Not sure what else we can tell you.

Dagger

I'm not looking for somebody to comfort me...I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion about a topic that I think should be addressed at some point.  Is it easy to change?  Hell no...can it be changed, absolutely!  Obviously it has been brought up before in the past to coaches and AD's so it is something that has just been brought up.  There's a solution for every problem out there if you want it bad enough....I brought up the topic to see what other people thought about it, whether or not they liked it, and whether or not it was worth the headache to try and fix.

MIACLUV

I think the Twin Cities give the NCAA a lot of room to manuever with the proximity of not only the Minnesota and Wisconsin teams, but also the Iowa and Illinois teams. I think the Wisconsin schools have done a tremendous job hosting these regionals and always do it with a lot of precision and class. Just being selfish in saying that it would be great to have it on the home turf for a change.

BigPoppa

Quote from: MIACLUV on May 24, 2011, 12:14:14 PM
I think the Twin Cities give the NCAA a lot of room to manuever with the proximity of not only the Minnesota and Wisconsin teams, but also the Iowa and Illinois teams. I think the Wisconsin schools have done a tremendous job hosting these regionals and always do it with a lot of precision and class. Just being selfish in saying that it would be great to have it on the home turf for a change.

Plus a flight and virtually no bus ride if they play it in the twin cities. Midway in St. Paul is really beat up by this time as it is home to MANY high schools and colleges in the spring. St. Cloud might be a better option... two stadiums similar to the World Series set up in Battle Creek for you old-timers.

Here is a preview: http://www.stcloudmac.com/stadiumpro.html
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BoBo

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 24, 2011, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on May 24, 2011, 12:14:14 PM
I think the Twin Cities give the NCAA a lot of room to manuever with the proximity of not only the Minnesota and Wisconsin teams, but also the Iowa and Illinois teams. I think the Wisconsin schools have done a tremendous job hosting these regionals and always do it with a lot of precision and class. Just being selfish in saying that it would be great to have it on the home turf for a change.

Plus a flight and virtually no bus ride if they play it in the twin cities. Midway in St. Paul is really beat up by this time as it is home to MANY high schools and colleges in the spring. St. Cloud might be a better option... two stadiums similar to the World Series set up in Battle Creek for you old-timers.

Here is a preview: http://www.stcloudmac.com/stadiumpro.html

I'm sorry, but the name "Dick Putz" sounds rather funny (maybe not to the real Dick Putz or his family), but it sounds funny nonetheless. I would demand to play on Joe Faber Field when in St. Cloud!!  ;)
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The WIAC had several all americans this year.  2nd team-  Cody Koback, Daniel Putnam, Luke Westphal  3rd team- Jeff Donovan   HM  Dan Douglas, Scott Williams
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cubs

Quote from: ShineTime on May 25, 2011, 07:20:43 AM
The WIAC had several all americans this year.  2nd team-  Cody Koback, Daniel Putnam, Luke Westphal  3rd team- Jeff Donovan   HM  Dan Douglas, Scott Williams
Is it safe to say that that Westphal and Koback were the Midwest Region Pitcher and Player of the Year respectively then?  The Midwest Region didn't have a representative on the 1st Team, and Concordia DH Cam Stephens was the only other Midwest Region Player on the 2nd Team.
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Just Bill

Quote from: cubs on May 25, 2011, 11:10:09 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 25, 2011, 07:20:43 AM
The WIAC had several all americans this year.  2nd team-  Cody Koback, Daniel Putnam, Luke Westphal  3rd team- Jeff Donovan   HM  Dan Douglas, Scott Williams
Is it safe to say that that Westphal and Koback were the Midwest Region Pitcher and Player of the Year respectively then?  The Midwest Region didn't have a representative on the 1st Team, and Concordia DH Cam Stephens was the only other Midwest Region Player on the 2nd Team.

D3Baseball doesn't pick regional teams. Only the ABCA does. Since it's two separate voting bodies, I wouldn't necessarily draw conclusions from one to the other. Finding the ABCA all-region teams is always such a chore since they aren't all released together.
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St. Olaf and St. Scholastic each had a guy as well...
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