WBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

badgerwarhawk · February 18, 2009, 09:31:19 AM

WARHAWKS sweep the weekly honor. Myles McKay was the men's POY.

Usuallywrong24 · February 18, 2009, 10:55:15 AM

BoBo,

Great story on sportsmanship. Really touching story.

I was looking at the WIAC standings today and it looks like SP and WW will be the top two seeds and earning that bye, unless some upsets occur. Both have one game that could go either way this week.

The 3-6 seeds are still really up the air. River could sneak all the way to the 3 seed with wins and help. LX could drop all the way to 6. What an important week for the WIAC.

The Champ · February 18, 2009, 08:23:56 PM

Quote from: Usuallywrong24 on February 18, 2009, 10:55:15 AMThe 3-6 seeds are still really up the air. River could sneak all the way to the 3 seed with wins and help. LX could drop all the way to 6. What an important week for the WIAC.

If I'm not mistaken, and understand the tiebreakers as listed below, the BEST that RF could finish is 5th. For sure, they cannot overtake EC for 3rd as the WORST that EC can finish is 10 - 6.

Quote1. Head-to-head competition between tied teams.

2. Cumulative Won/Loss record vs. teams placed higher in the conference standings.

3. Record vs. teams in conference standings in descending order (i.e., #1 seed, #2 seed).

4. Team with the best road record in conference games.

5. Coin toss conducted by the WIAC commissioner.

Now I am making the assumption (possibly incorrectly) that if the two tied teams split during the season, that they would look at point differential. If I am wrong, than I will apologize now...

The worst that LX can finish is 9 - 7, the best RF can finish is 9 - 7. LX win the point differential be 15.

The worst Stout can finish is 9 - 7, and they currently have a 23 point victory over RF, with the second game on right now. If RF wins by 24 tonight and beat WW on Saturday with Stout losing to EC - then RF would have the tiebreaker and take 5th seed.

Is everyone confused yet???

The Champ · February 18, 2009, 08:47:05 PM

At the half, Stout 47 - RF 32.

Leading score is Lindsay Gerber for Stout with 14 (4 three pointers), followed closely by Char Edwards with 12. Tiffany Gregorich leads the Falcons with 9.

LX and Point are tied at 25 at the half.

EC 38 - UWP 21.

WW 40 - UWO 24

Just Bill · February 18, 2009, 09:27:15 PM

Champ,

Your point differential assumption is incorrect. That's not anywhere in the listed tiebreakers that you posted.

If there is a tie and the teams split the head-to-head, they would compare each team's record against the first place team (or teams if there was a tie for first). If that didn't break it they'd proceed to the second place team. Then the third and so on until it was broken.

The Champ · February 18, 2009, 09:55:32 PM

Quote from: Just Bill on February 18, 2009, 09:27:15 PM
Champ,

Your point differential assumption is incorrect. That's not anywhere in the listed tiebreakers that you posted.

I wasn't sure - but when they said head to head - I thought they might consider point differential if the teams split.

Regardless, RF lost tonight (Stout 84 - RF 62), so the best they can finish is 8 - 8.

With LX's loss to Point, they finish 9 - 7.

If I'm not mistaken, Stout has clinched at least the #4 seed, on the basis of their 1 - 1 record against Point (compared to LX's 0 - 2).

The winner of the EC/Stout game will decide the #3 seed.

Go Blue Devils!!!

The Champ · February 18, 2009, 10:00:19 PM

Stout has 5 players in double figures!!!

Lindsey Gerber 19 (5 three pointers)

Charlee Edwards 17

Julia Hirssig 14

Kim Stokke 12

Tricia VanVreede 10

buf · February 18, 2009, 10:57:18 PM

EC gets a much needed win, 60-35, at UWP. UWP only shoots 11% from the field in the 2nd half. OUCH!

Sets up a big game Saturday with Stout.

buf · February 18, 2009, 11:22:34 PM

This week's region rankings:

Central Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. Ill. Wesleyan 20-0 22-0
2. Wis.-Whitewater 18-3 20-3
3. Wis.-Stevens Point 19-3 20-3
4. Washington-St. Louis 16-4 18-4
5. Wis.-Eau Claire 15-4 19-4
6. St. Norbert 17-2 18-4

Despite the loss to Point, EC doesn't move down.

Usuallywrong24 · February 18, 2009, 11:28:18 PM

Quote from: The Champ on February 18, 2009, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 18, 2009, 09:27:15 PM
Champ,

Your point differential assumption is incorrect. That's not anywhere in the listed tiebreakers that you posted.

I wasn't sure - but when they said head to head - I thought they might consider point differential if the teams split.

Regardless, RF lost tonight (Stout 84 - RF 62), so the best they can finish is 8 - 8.

With LX's loss to Point, they finish 9 - 7.

If I'm not mistaken, Stout has clinched at least the #4 seed, on the basis of their 1 - 1 record against Point (compared to LX's 0 - 2).

The winner of the EC/Stout game will decide the #3 seed.

Go Blue Devils!!!

Based on Stout's last game with WW, they might be in better position to let EC win this one. Good job on the tiebreakers. Looks like SP and WW earn the byes. This is a huge advantage. It makes it tough for them to prepare for an opponent as the tournament will reseed after the first one. Point could play the 4, 5, or 6 seed while WW could play the 3, 4, or 5.

The Champ · February 19, 2009, 07:40:38 AM

I don't ever consider losing a game a way to make things "better".

I believe in momentum, and losing the last game of the regular season is no way to go into the tournament.

And your assumption is based on winning the first game in the WIAC tourney - an assumption I don't want to take for granted.

#3 seed will play RF, #4 plays LX.

Based on our two games against RF (W80 - 57 and W84 - 62) vs our two games against LX (L75 - 56 and W71 - 60), I want the #3.

Besides, RF beat EC in the last game between these two teams, so that would have us playing Point....

Bottom line, just win.........

Go Blue Devils!!!

stoutguy · February 19, 2009, 08:35:57 AM

Quote from: Usuallywrong24 on February 18, 2009, 11:28:18 PM
Quote from: The Champ on February 18, 2009, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 18, 2009, 09:27:15 PM
Champ,

Your point differential assumption is incorrect. That's not anywhere in the listed tiebreakers that you posted.

I wasn't sure - but when they said head to head - I thought they might consider point differential if the teams split.

Regardless, RF lost tonight (Stout 84 - RF 62), so the best they can finish is 8 - 8.

With LX's loss to Point, they finish 9 - 7.

If I'm not mistaken, Stout has clinched at least the #4 seed, on the basis of their 1 - 1 record against Point (compared to LX's 0 - 2).

The winner of the EC/Stout game will decide the #3 seed.

Go Blue Devils!!!

Based on Stout's last game with WW, they might be in better position to let EC win this one. Good job on the tiebreakers. Looks like SP and WW earn the byes. This is a huge advantage. It makes it tough for them to prepare for an opponent as the tournament will reseed after the first one. Point could play the 4, 5, or 6 seed while WW could play the 3, 4, or 5.

You don't know Coach Thomas very well, do you?

badgerwarhawk · February 19, 2009, 10:39:47 AM

The WARHAWKS scored first and never trailed in the game. Oshkosh kept it close, had a tie at 16-16, and trailed 26-22 with 6 minutes remaining in the half. But the WARHAWKS finished the half with a 14-2 run and ahead 40-24. After that 12 points was as close at the Titan would get. The final was 83-59.

Oshkosh played a 2-3 zone and made things very difficult for Tiffany Morton who only took 6 shots in the game. Basically she was triple teamed when ever she touched the ball. But the WARHAWKS countered the defense by going 11-22 from beyond the arch, shooting 55.2% from the floor in the first half and dominated the boards 39-29 which included a 16 to 8 advantage on the offensive glass.

Heidi Sontag led the WARHAWK scorers with 13 points (3-5 3-pointers). Mary Donohoo (3-3 3-pointers) finished with 11 points as did Dana Thompson who also pulled down a game high 9 rebounds. Kelsey Hendrickson rounded out the WARHAWK scorers in double figures with 10 points.

Oshkosh was led by Michelle Boeder with 16 points and Erin Baganz with 12. Baganz also had 4 assists and 3 steals.

Usuallywrong24 · February 19, 2009, 10:50:51 AM

I don't think by any means that Stout is going to let EC win on Saturday. I don't think Coach Thomas is going to just let his team play H-O-R-S-E for the next two days. That said, basketball is a lot about match-ups and based on previous games this season Stout does not match-up well with WW. It even appears The Champ is giddy to play the Pointers again.

Also Champ, if River is that 6 seed and wins the first round against EC, they will be playing the #1 seed, most likely the Pointers. Stout, the presumed #4 seed in this scenario, would play LX and then play @WW with a win. Maybe I just understand your last post wrong.

Quote from: The Champ on February 19, 2009, 07:40:38 AM
I don't ever consider losing a game a way to make things "better".

I believe in momentum, and losing the last game of the regular season is no way to go into the tournament.

And your assumption is based on winning the first game in the WIAC tourney - an assumption I don't want to take for granted.

#3 seed will play RF, #4 plays LX.

Based on our two games against RF (W80 - 57 and W84 - 62) vs our two games against LX (L75 - 56 and W71 - 60), I want the #3.

Besides, RF beat EC in the last game between these two teams, so that would have us playing Point....

Bottom line, just win.........

Go Blue Devils!!!

Usuallywrong24 · February 19, 2009, 11:05:09 AM

Also, I would hate to be a flip-flopper, but I think if Stout can get to the WIAC finals, I would change my vote for WIAC player of the year, which doesn't exist, to Hirrsig. I was looking at the conference only stats and Hirrsig is averaging six more points per game, more rebounds, and shooting a high percentage from the floor.