WBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Kibitzer]

Can someone explain to me why the WIAC schools are not NCAA Div. II?

They sure have a distinct advantage over most Div. III private schools which typically cost $15,000/year more in tuition.

Have they ever considered the switch?

[Rico 21]

Any dub is a good dub!  Nice to hear that some future players in Edwards and Doppenberg got some significant playing time.  Congrats T!

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Kibitzer
It's a money thing. WIAC schools cannot afford to give scholarships.

[Just Bill]

Kibitzer,

Apparently the dead horse hasn't been beaten enough.

WIAC schools will not move to D-II for the simple reason that the laws of the State of Wisconsin prevent it.  The charter of the UW System states that only the Madison, Milwaukee, Green Bay and Parkside campuses may offer athletic scholarships.  The others may not.

Theoretically, the other schools could play D-II as non-scholarship schools, but that probably wouldn't be in our best interests.

What's the distinct advantage the WIAC has again?  We're not exactly dominating the countryside.  Last week we had no Top 25 teams.  This week we had Point ranked #25 and they immediately got beat.  We have ZERO teams in this week's Central Region rankings (the Midwest Conference has 2).  We've had a few Final Four teams in the past five years, but so have a lot of conferences.  The UAA doesn't seem to complain about the WIAC's "advantages".  They do just fine.

Did you post the same question on the NJAC board?  The Little East board?  They are all public schools too.  Are they cleaning up with all their advantages?

[BDB]

Can someone explain to me why the WIAC schools are not NCAA Div. II?

They sure have a distinct advantage over most Div. III private schools which typically cost $15,000/year more in tuition.

Have they ever considered the switch?

Guess what? It costs money to go to a WIAC school as well.

The ability to pay more or borrow more or get more academic scholarship money by the private school attendees does not keep them from competing against public universities on the athletic fields, obviously.

[badgerwarhawk]

He forgot the enrollment thing.

I haven't known a lot of athletes who went to private schools but every one that I do know got financial aide that reduced their tutition to an amount compareable to the WIAC schools.  One of them was my own daughter.  I even know one athlete who, when WW[/color] was $500 a semester cheaper, was awarded an additional music scholarship despite never having taken any sort of music classes in high school and being enrolled for none at the institution.  

My experience makes it seem to me that if there is a will there is a way when it comes to private schools recruiting athletes.  Though I have no doubt that there are those who have to pay the full tab.  

[foul_language]

Situation in Superior worsens: UW-Superior suits up nine players to UW-Stout's 21. Stout fans about outnumber Superior's by the same ratio, perhaps worse. To its credit, Superior goes down swinging and gets remarkable games from Katie Moench (27 points) and Jenny Carlson (five 3s). Maybe the  hockey coach could recruit basketball players when and where he picks up all his Canadians. Maybe UWS would consider getting on with hiring coaches.

[Kibitzer]

I am from the West Coast where Div. III schools are private and where the small state schools tend to be Div. II or even NAIA with athletic money available.

I appreciate everyone's replies. I am new to these boards and didn't realize this topic had been kicked around already.

[badgerwarhawk]

No problem, Kibitzer.  It's just that it's the same old, same old every year. 

Personally, I think the biggest advantage we have has nothing to do with size or tutition and has more to do with facilities.  We generally have better ones though that is not always the case and that is what often impresses an athlete the most.

[Just Bill]

I am from the West Coast where Div. III schools are private and where the small state schools tend to be Div. II or even NAIA with athletic money available.

I appreciate everyone's replies. I am new to these boards and didn't realize this topic had been kicked around already.

I apologize if I jumped on you too hard.  I should have noticed that you didn't have many posts and may not have been a part of previous discussions.  Thanks for contributing!

[Pat Coleman]

Anybody here able to get the Stout/Stevens Point game broadcast on WMEQ? I'm just getting silence and there's no phone number or contact info to call the station and inquire about it.

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I wasn't able to get it either!  But Point has a stream that is working for me.  Go to the WIAC conference homepage and click on women's basketball.  Then over on the right side of the screen click on Weekly Radio Broadcasts.

[Pat Coleman]

Yep, I switched to that a few minutes after posting my message. Also switched our front-page link to that stream.

[bulk19]

Oshkosh 61, UWEC 45...

TKO early, Titans jumping to a 15-0 lead, holding the 'Golds scoreless the first 8 minutes of the half. Titans up 38-21 at half, then held the 'Golds scoreless the first five minutes of the second half, too.

'Golds worst shooting performance on the year; shot less than 25% the whole night...  Coach Englund says defensive intensity not there... Oshkosh gets open looks all night, plays more physical, doesn't let 'Golds set the pace.

Rachel Becker leads 'Golds with 13; Heidi Arciszewski and Brittanni Hakanson add 9 each. Balanced scoring from the Titans - Brittany Herrick 14; Kelly O'Keef and Shannon Eggers each add 11.

Stout's pounding over Point (78-45 with 4 minutes left) puts them in front of the conference race at 11-4, Oshkosh is at 10-4, then the Pointers at 9-5...

Pointers will probably fall from the rankings, and be replaced by Stout, who are positioning themselves for another run...

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Nice recap Bulk. 

Stout whips a Point team who was playing without Schultz and Pepper.