WBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[jam8788]

And the fact that they've had the most second most number of head coachign changes in the last 20 years doesn't help either.  Superior's had 5 coaching changes since '90 and Platteville's had 6 coaching changes.  In a strong leaugue like the WIAC, the best teams have the longest tenured coaches. 

[Old Pro]

You are right! You cant build something if your always making changes. However, you need to get the best candidate in there that will do the job. Since it was brought up, what's the deal with UW-Platteville? Will there be achange at Head Coach there anytime soon if they continue like this?

[phoenix_rising]

Superior didn't take coaching (women's basketball) seriously until Mulhern was hired. All the focus was on men's hockey. Before him, Soup women had an assistant HS coach fill in after UWS fired the long-time coach, Sandy Eilertsen. Before games, she was setting up concessions, as I recall; summers, she was on the grounds crew. Doesn't allow much focus. Anyway, Mulhern was hired to coach women, Buchanan to coach men in the same year. Mulhern recruits a particular type--leans toward women with a strong 'Christian' ethic: no drinking, no swearing, no questioning the coach. I think he had a good group of players last year, but they were young. The problem is that he cuts strong players when they get frustrated--frustration sometimes leads to questioning the methods--and UWS women's basketball creates a lot of frustration. I hope next season proves to be the turning point for the women. Some experience, some talent, more wins.

Mulhern recruits heavily; he travels a lot and covers a broad Minnesota area. He has been provided recruiting opportunities I dont think Eilertsen had. UWS may be in the middle of nowhere, but there are some great programs here, and for northern WI and MN kids, it isn't too far from home.

UWS also has a good assistant coach. The coaching finesse Mulhern lacks, the assistant has. He stays calm and on task. I think Mulhern tends to get crazy on the sidelines. IMHO, tossing Mulhern from the game is quite frankly the best thing that can happen in some games. He rants and screeches while the assistant directs. Mulhern might be good at recruiting, but as a game-time coach, he is sometimes more distracting than helpful. Too much redirecting mid-play.

I have hope for women's basketball. I've been carrying that hope for a couple of seasons now. Maybe this next year, I'll get some relief.

[badgerwarhawk]

The reciprosity Superior has with every state in the country should help them bring in out of state athletes.   

[phoenix_rising]

I think we hashed this reciprocity thing out a while ago and, in my memory, determined Superior has the same that Whitewater has. The difference? You guys get to troll for Illinois players and we go after Minnesota.

[bulk19]

Lady Blugolds second, and WIAC tops, in D3 2008-09 attendance...

UWEC averaged 1,055 fans per game. Two Michigan schools, Hope College (with 1,269) and Calvin (at 1,053), were 1 and 3...

As a conference, WIAC led with an average of 501 fans attending 108 games. The American Southwest Conference was second with 454 spectators per game.

[badgerwarhawk]

Your memory fails you, Rising 

Not that it really matters but WHITEWATER and Superior do not have equal reciprosity with other states.  All public Wisconsin universities have reciprosity with Minnesota.  That's an arrangement the two states have made.  WHITEWATER does not have reciprosity with Illinois or any other state.  I'm in the process of clarifying what Superior's arrangements are but the last time I was aware of them they were able to admit students from any state at in-state resident's tuition.   Perhaps that has changed though given Superior's enrollment I kind of doubt it. 



Ok, I have clarified it and I was correct.  UW-Superior does have reciprosity with every state.  They are the only school in the system with that arrangement.  However I do understand that they don't have the budget to recruit nationally.

[badgerwarhawk]

Oshkosh will be getting a new assistant next season.  WARHAWK assistant coach Pete VonAllen will be joining the Titan staff.

There are also rumors swirling of some D1 transfers headed the Titan's way but I don't know any of the details. 

[phoenix_rising]

Badgerwarhawk--
Are we talking tuition? From the UW-Superior catalog, tuition per semester is the following:
   Resident (let's assume Wisconsin)   $2,953.75
   Minnesota resident                            $3,150.19
   Nonresident (anyone not from Wisconsin or Minnesota, right?) $6,740.23
Residence status--Wisconsin requires payment of nonresident tuition by students who are residents of states other than Wisconsin. It does say full and partial waivers of the nonresident portion of tuition are available on a limited basis to those who qualify. Exemption can be granted to students who have been actual residents of WI for one full year before the beginning of the student's first semester, for example; or residency in the state because of employment; or if the student is in the armed forces. There are several exemptions, but all are related to having been in the state for a year before enrolling.

Where did you get your reciprocity information?

[buf]

UWEC's Recruits  

I don't really know anything about these players.  There is only one local player and she was injured last season.

[badgerwarhawk]

Badgerwarhawk--
Are we talking tuition? From the UW-Superior catalog, tuition per semester is the following:
   Resident (let's assume Wisconsin)   $2,953.75
   Minnesota resident                            $3,150.19
   Nonresident (anyone not from Wisconsin or Minnesota, right?) $6,740.23
Residence status--Wisconsin requires payment of nonresident tuition by students who are residents of states other than Wisconsin. It does say full and partial waivers of the nonresident portion of tuition are available on a limited basis to those who qualify. Exemption can be granted to students who have been actual residents of WI for one full year before the beginning of the student's first semester, for example; or residency in the state because of employment; or if the student is in the armed forces. There are several exemptions, but all are related to having been in the state for a year before enrolling.

Where did you get your reciprocity information?

I got my information from someone in the UW-W administration.  But it obviously is contradicted by what you've posted so I will concede that I was mistaken. 

[jam8788]

How often do WIAC coaches switch schools?

[billys]

How often do WIAC coaches switch schools?

More specific?
Head coaches are pretty long tenured typically (other than the Superior job which has changed seemingly quite often)
Assistant coaches? Not often they go between schools. Each school has a different set-up for their assistant with different duties. Heck, some don't even have paid assistants.

With state benefits and the salary structure it's become seemingly a destination job for a lot of the head coaches.

[Just Bill]

Off the top of head, I can think of some assistants who have switched schools:

Kari Carollo (asst. at Stout to head at WW)
Kris Schoonover (asst. at Stout to asst. at OSH)
BW reported that Pete Von Allman was going from an asst. at WW to an asst. at OSH.
I'm sure there's probably a handful of people who went from a student asst. or GA at one place to an asst. spot somewhere else.

Going from Head Coach in the WIAC to another Head Coaching spot in the WIAC would be really rare (possibly even unprecedented), but assistants moving wouldn't be as unusual.

[bbrady]

Oshkosh will be getting a new assistant next season.  WARHAWK assistant coach Pete VonAllen will be joining the Titan staff.

That post makes me think of the question, how many teams in the WIAC have full time asst coaches as opposed to part time asst coaches.  It would seem that those with full time asst coachs would have a huge advantage as those coachs would be around campus a lot more for recruiting help, meeting with players, etc.  Is Coach VonAllen going to be full time with the new position.  That would certainly be a huge plus for the Titans program It would be an interesting question to look at the differences between assistant coaches with regard to the men's and women's teams, also.  On a different note.  Janet Blair (phoenix rising) didn't your daughter, Liz Eldred attend UW Stout and UW GB.  I would think, as a mom, that you would have some insight into the recruiting process and what factors (ie. tuition, geographic location etc) come into play with regard to what college to choose... Of course UWGB can offer athletic scholarships, so that could make a big difference with costs..etc