WBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[stoutguy]

It's always so funny to see how loyal Stout fans and posters are when someone has something negative to say about the team's style of play. You complement on a coach who has success and a formula to find a way to win. You may not agree with it, as in my case, but you can see it. You people are so damned used to seeing pushing and shoving the whole game that you now ONLY consider it as aggressive, such as diving for loose balls. Give me a break, any person diving or working hard would only be seen as positive. I'm talking about bumping cutters hard, hand-checking constantly, displacing the post, slapping, etc. After awhile it's no longer a game of strategy.  Get physical back? Sure, you can try but then both teams ring up fouls and good players sit out.  That's basketball?  I get the old fashioned school of thought you have going there, the ol' tough it out style of play, but I was simply commenting on the FACT that refs can't call every foul and it tends to force teams out of a game of strategy and into pushing back. By that time you have people sitting on the bench, frustrated and coaches getting t's. I'm assuming none of YOU have played the damn game because it's clear that you cannot understand a simple opinion on your beloved team.

Have you ever played a pick up game? Are you any good that you could actually make a move on someone? You perform a cross-over and drive and run into the 47 year old father of two that's standing in your way with both of his hands on you and fall to the floor. It's clear your skill and ability will have to be altered because of physical play. Not to compare the talented athletes at Stout to an old man, but rather give you an anology of physical play ALTERING the game some.

And as far as giving it to a team on top, I don't recall Stout winning any titles or dominating the WIAC over any given period of time.  Now I hope your stupid comment bites you in the arse by way of La Crosse. At least your back to talking basketball...

LX 72 Stout 71
SP 54 Osh 53

Your 2nd paragraph does confuse me a bit.  Were you at the Stout Ale House last night because I did actually make a move on someone but then realized just in time that I am, in fact, married.  And the cross-over and the 47 year old guy?  Well, I really am confused.

[shootfromthearc]

That's great "Bob" but isn't that relatively the same success that other teams are having like Point, 2 WIAC titles, 2 Final Fours and a National Title, and Oshkosh - many many titles...They've had some success but let's not ride them like they're a dynasty.  And this isn't about their success, it's a perspective on how games can change and coaches can become frustrated or get t'd up. First your knocking SP's coach, you get a couple of perspectives, then you defend the style of play, you get a perspective, now we're supposed to bow down because they've either TIED or won a conference title outright 3 of 5 years? Big deal man.

[shootfromthearc]

SG, perhaps you would have understood a little better if you haven't spent your life being a fan.  No worries. Let's move past this and discuss something more interesting. How about the WIAC's chances of getting in more than one team.  Is it going to happen with the large number of losses on our top 4? Annually a dominant conference like the AAU that gets 2-4 teams in annually, will the WIAC get any love now that the field is bigger? Who's in and who's out? Obviously our tourney champ is in, but does the loser make it too? Does the third place team get in?  Any thoughts?

[foul_language]

I think LaCrosse will put up a battle, but I can't seem them winning tonight. And, of course, I hope I don't. Stout 76 to LaCrosse's 63. ()

I'm thinking the Oshkosh team and home court will be too much to overcome, so unless UWO gets hit with another bout of the flu, they should take UWSP, let's say 70-65.

Shootfromthearc: I have to give you points for passion...

[shootfromthearc]

Thanks FL. Just trying to have fun, and sorry if "bs" was a bad way of putting it - actually would be bored without you on this board. Just seems that Stout fans are a bit defensive.  Nonetheless, one more point for Stoutguy:

"Your 2nd paragraph does confuse me a bit.  Were you at the Stout Ale House last night because I did actually make a move on someone but then realized just in time that I am, in fact, married."

Sorry to break it to you, but the man you were making a move on was not me, I was back at home with my girlfriend. But I'm glad you realized you were married. Does she know?

[BDB]

You perform a cross-over and drive and run into the 47 year old father of two that's standing in your way with both of his hands on you and fall to the floor.

And as far as giving it to a team on top, I don't recall Stout winning any titles or dominating the WIAC over any given period of time. 

You said you didn't recall Stout winning any titles. I simply pointed out the reality.

What do you mean by running into a 47 man with 2 kids?

That's great "Bob" but isn't that relatively the same success that other teams are having like Point, 2 WIAC titles, 2 Final Fours and a National Title, and Oshkosh - many many titles...First your knocking SP's coach, you get a couple of perspectives, then you defend the style of play, you get a perspective, now we're supposed to bow down because they've either TIED or won a conference title outright 3 of 5 years? Big deal man.

I have never posted anything bad about any program, or coach.

And yes, winning or sharing 3 of 5 titles is a big deal, man.

[shootfromthearc]

One last blurb - are one of you guys actually GL? I know it's not you FL but one of you must be related, most are up there.  Perhaps we can get together and play with bad mitten. Voice, you found a bad mitten once, right?  Ah, the good ol' days!

[foul_language]

The coach that gets flustered will lose, and I didn't see the Oshkosh coach ruffle a hair in the loss at Stout. Shirley on the other hand was ragging the refs from the jump

Is this the line that's causing all the trouble ("First your [you're] knocking the coach"? Yikes. Which word was the killer? "ragging"? Well, I am a bad person. Let's say I said "conversing with". Confidentially, that's probably not the worst thing I've said about someone, but to preserve the nation, let's just have a do-over. If government can change it's story, I certainly can change mine.

I hold with my predictions, however.

[foul_language]

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Forgot it in the last post.

[PackerFan]

I've been watching for awhile and I agree Stout fans are getting a little defensive.  I know people who have played for Mark Thomas and have outright admitted that he encourages players to be dirty and see what they can get away with.  So don't act like they are just being aggressive, we all know better than that.  He is smart however, get a huge recruiting class by promising people playing time so they go to Stout but then have them sit the bench.  That way they aren't playing for the competition, right?  He also has the advantage of hosting AAU.
What is frustrating about this league is refs are so inconsitent.  They'll let Stout get away with fouls and "aggressive" play, but then call those things on the other team.  Kelsey Duoss is one of the better player I've seen in the WIAC but if the refs enforced the 3 second rule on her she'd be in trouble.   She'll sit in the lane all night but then the refs will call a 3 second violation on the other team, it's rediculous.
It will be interesting to see what happens tonight.  I'm a sucker for the underdog so I'm hoping LaCrosse comes out on top.

[badgerwarhawk]

It's always so funny to see how loyal Stout fans and posters are when someone has something negative to say about the team's style of play.

Nearly as funny as seeing the original poster resort to name calling and insults because
someone disagreed with his point.  Hello pot, my name is kettle.  We're black.


I'm assuming none of YOU have played the damn game because it's clear that you cannot understand a simple opinion on your beloved team.

They're not my beloved team and and your simple opinion sounded more like simple whining to me.

Have you ever played a pick up game?

We're you ever a member of an intramural championship team?


And as far as giving it to a team on top, I don't recall Stout winning any titles or dominating the WIAC over any given period of time.  Now I hope your stupid comment bites you in the arse by way of La Crosse. At least your back to talking basketball...

Is your long term memory equally bad?

Sorry, I couldn't resist the temptation.

[billys]

Wow. All it took was a little smack talk to get conversation going here and now people post by the minute. I should have bashed some teams a long time ago to get things going. Since I think I've been one of the only La Crosse followers on here who's posted somewhat regularly, and now have seen all four teams left play, I'd like to throw out my uneducated guesses for tonight.

Point at Oshkosh- I saw Oshkosh rip La Crosse here at La Crosse and know they have the best five in the league. They got some rest Monday and should be ready to fly. Point losing Kranz hurts them for certain. I don't see a way Point wins this game unless they truly shut down the three point line. We posted a lot earlier in the year about the importance of seniors. Of the key players in the final four tonight, Oshkosh has the best/most seniors. Not to mention they are undefeated at home. Oshkosh 74- Point 59

La Crosse at Stout- Again I follow the Eagles so I'm trying to keep my bias out of it. What they have done this year for a team with no seniors and picked to finish 7th is remarkable. I know they believe they can win this game. History though says Stout simply because they're the number one seed and at home. What amazing stats. #1 Seeds 22-0 in the tournament. Home teams, I think I read 44-5. So I'm going to reluctantly pick Stout 69-63. But as someone said earlier, I'm a sucker for the underdogs. Eventually the number one has to fall right? I'm thinking/hoping this is the preview of the 2007 WIAC Championship game. La Crosse returns everyone and Stout loses Hendricks (which will hurt). But with the POTY in Duoss back, they will have to be the favorite.

I digress. Unfortunately no radio from LaX so I'll have to listen to the Stoutguys. Just kidding guys, glad you're covering.

Oh, and by the way, is it possible to agree with everyone involved in this urinating contest? Cause each post I'm finding a good point (when you pull out the bias)

[badgerwarhawk]

Home teams are 48-5 now.

I used to believe in the law of averages but Superior's combined 0-32 has given me cause to doubt.

No, you can only agree with me. ;)

[foul_language]

LaCrosse was very tough in Menomonie last year at this time. I wouldn't take anything away from them. I also think it's possible/likely there will be a strong support section, since LAX is not that far away. A loud group of fans can spur a team on, too. It's likely to be a very good game.

I see it  being close until mid-second half.

Superior is going to have a come-back. Some-time.

[wisconsinball]

Hey shootfromthearc,  does RUGBY count as playing a sport before???