WBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[UWPSUPERFAN77]

Tyriver(sp) is one of the best athletes in the conference. i saw her play Fast pitch for the Titans and she is also a great Softball player. I think she played SS and hit 3rd. God Bless!

[wiac482002]

She might be one of the best players at softball but she's not at the top in WBB.  She leads the UWO team along with Knapp because they have no one else.  We'll see how they do against teams coming up...maybe cut down the 30 TO's and maybe then they will win

[Rico 21]

BDB -

You made a good point...    throw a Stout sweatshirt and glasses on Vitale and you have Stoutguy!

[badgerwarhawk]

The  WARHAWKS topped  NAIA Siena Heights 67-47.   

UW-WW shot 52% from the floor in the first half to lead 42-25.

Tiffany Morton  took scoring honors with 14 points.  Emily Peters added 10 points.  Morton, Peters and Lindsey Buechner each grabbed six rebounds to lead UW-W to a 51-34 advantage on the boards.  Trisha Thill chipped in with a game-high five steals.

UW-WW improves to 7-3 and is idle until next week Thursday when they will host Judson.

[stoutguy]

I was interested in the comment about St Cloud broadcast(er)s; I watched the Madison-Pitt BB game Saturday with commentator Dick Vitale and, by about the sixth minute, wanted to kill myself. Honest to God, that guy blathered on forever about every inconsequential thing one could or couldn't imagine. I can't believe I've never listened to him before; heard OF him, but I don't recall actually listening TO him. Which probably explains why I'm not a homicidal maniac--or haven't been, so far. Entertaining? Yes, if you consider periodically poking yourself in the eye or ear with a sharp object entertaining. I know, I know. Everybody else loves the guy. You people (who do) drink too much.

Thankfully, he doesn't do WIAC games...

Although he doesn't talk like him on a broadcast, Stoutguy looks like Dick Vitale! 

Real cute, BDB.  I may look like him, and yes, that hurts a bit to say that, but I can honestly say that I have never listened to anyone who bothers me more that Dick V.

[foul_language]

Risking sounding like I'm brown-nosing, Stoutguy is waaaaaaay better than Vitale.

Happy Holidays from F.L. to y'all. (use the link below for a great Holiday greeting; hope I'm not violating a ton of rules. This is NOT obscene...)

http://www.thecompassgroup.biz/merryxmas.swf

[UWPSUPERFAN77]

To Foul language: You need a better name. I did not read your attachment, but you do not use foul language in your posts, which i find entertaining. have a Merry Christmas!

[stoutguy]

Risking sounding like I'm brown-nosing, Stoutguy is waaaaaaay better than Vitale.

Happy Holidays from F.L. to y'all. (use the link below for a great Holiday greeting; hope I'm not violating a ton of rules. This is NOT obscene...)

http://www.thecompassgroup.biz/merryxmas.swf

Thanks, Foul Language, I think.  Your take on the Stout team to date.  I expected this to be one of Mark's best and maybe it still will be.  So far, however, some frustrations, don't you think?  I sometimes wonder if Mark's frustration during the game turns into the players frustrations.  For instance, they know they are coming out if they make a mistake.  Care to comment?

[foul_language]

Care to comment?

Dying to.

If anyone has paid attention to the change in roster, one would note there has been something in the neighborhood of nine players lost and replaced since last year. I'm guessing the biggest challenge right now is getting them into some kind of cohesive unit--especially hard when you're dealing with the kinds of numbers T traditionally carries on the roster. He does have some outstanding freshmen, who don't appear to be intimidated by the pace of college ball or the quality of opponents they're meeting. Right now, it looks more like some of the more senior players are not meeting expectations. Again, I think that's more a question of refining what's pretty much a new game for all of them. I'm pretty sure that by the time Stout hits the second half of the season, they'll be more comfortable with each other and we'll see another dominating performance.

I was surprised at the outcome of the Finlandia game. When I saw Finlandia on the schedule, my initial response was that it was just plain cruel. Obviously, Finlandia was prepared for a battle and Stout wasn't--maybe thought the way I did: Finlandia wouldn't even be a speed bump. Score makes me think defense might have been a little weak. I didn't get to listen to the game--was it on computer broadcast?

Anyway, in sports familiarity breeds success. Other than that, a sense of team is very important and players have to accept the fact that in a machine, all parts are equally important. Don't underestimate the importance of bench players--whether in games or practice, they make a difference (thus, loss of nine can twist the personality/performance of the team). Maybe some expectations have to come up a little, some may have to come down.

I think a sense of humor is important, too. It works well for me.

[cubs]

She might be one of the best players at softball but she's not at the top in WBB.

Where did anyone ever say she was one of the best basketball players?? 

UWPSUPERFAN77 said she was "one of the best ATHLETES," which I would have to agree she probably is.  How many other girls out there could earn 1st Team All Conference in one TEAM sport (softball) and also earn some type of All Conference recognition in another TEAM sport the following year (she should at least earn HM in basketball this season)??

Quite impressive if you ask me.......

[Just Bill]

In my long distance observation, it takes a little longer for new freshman to develop in the Stout system then at other schools.  I think it has to do with the frequent substitution patterns.  New players just don't get that many consecutive minutes on the floor, and when they do get out there I think they feel they need to "make something happen" right away.  That can lead to unforced turnovers and defensive breakdowns.  I think it takes more games to get Stout freshman comfortable and acclimated, because the minutes are so sporadic. 

FL, you mentioned that you thought the freshman were adjusting very well, so maybe my theory doesn't hold up in this case.  I wouldn't be too worried about Stout.  They have a history of taking some bad losses early in the season and then cleaning up their act later in the year.  If they still take bad losses in mid to late January, then I might be worried.

[foul_language]

it takes a little longer for new freshman to develop in the Stout system

I would agree, which is why I'm impressed with the way some of these freshmen are handling themselves. Julia Hirssig comes to mind as a player who doesn't seem to be affected by new year, new team, new level of competition.

[stoutguy]

Some great observations, FL.  I, too, was very surprised by the Finlandia loss.  I have not talked to Mark but I think I will tomorrow at hoops club.  I am sure he is concerned about team play right now.   I had Kim Stokke on our half time at the Menomonie HS game last night and she talked about the adjustment to college ball and for the most part, really is excited to contribute, whenever that might be.  She seems a step slow comparded to last year, but I think she can be a nice player in Mark's system.  I, too, think this team has the potential to do some very special things by the end of this year.  I sure hope it happens.

[foul_language]

The interesting thing about going from high school to college ball is that what seems incredibly fast at high school level gets blown away by college speed, especially the way Stout--really most schools--has played. I remember the Laura Verdegan era when huddles broke to the shout, "Fly around" or something like that. They did fly. They still fly pretty well sometimes. Stokke probably hasn't so much lost a step as met her match and better in others on the team. They were all stars on their high school teams; they become average on the college team. That, in itself, must be hard to adjust to.

My daughter attended one of her high school practices over a break a couple years ago and said she couldn't believe how slow the pace was, how little movement there was. When I watch a high school game, what I miss most is the shot clock. I just want to boot those kids in the butt and scream, "take a damn shot! do anything!"

But, I digress. The point of all this is that I don't worry too much about Stout. They ebb and flow, but they win when it counts.

[foul_language]

I hate posting two in a row; it looks like I'm talking to myself...

But, I'm wondering if the Stout women's games in Texas will be on radio/internet? Internet is the more pressing question, since I probably won't pull in that  (scathing adjective  removed) AM station from Menomonie/Eau Claire way up here. Really, would a stronger signal be too much to ask?