WBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[badgerwarhawk]

Congrats to the WARHAWKS and assistant coaches Amy Zelinger and Pete VonAllmen who took over the reins of head coach in the absence of Coach Carollo and guided the team to two wins in sunny California.  Coach Carollo, expecting a baby any day now, was grounded by her physician and unable to make the trip.  The win over Mary Washington is one of the biggest in the history of the program.  It had to be nerve wracking sitting in Wisconsin and getting cell phone updates.

Regardless of the ranking there is no time to rest on our laurels as a tough WIAC conference slate awaits the team's return.   A great win and huge confidence booster but there's still plenty of hard work ahead. 

[BDB]

The Blue Devils show no mercy (and a heck of a full court press) as they win 2 games at the Land Of Magic tourney down in Florida.

In the 2 games they outscored their opponents 170-79.

UW-Stout - 85  SUNY-Oswego - 40
UW-Stout - 85  Immacullatta   - 39

[Mr. Downtown]

Pete Von Allmen was (or still is) the winningest women's high school basketball coach in the state of Wisconsin, with his last high school gig at Fort Atkinson High in 02/03.

It's no surprise that Whitewater didn't drop off, and it shows how strong that coaching staff is. I can't say for sure that if any other team in the WIAC had to ask the assistants to step up, that they would have done as good.

[Just Bill]

When was the last time a women's WIAC team was #1?

The last I can think of, was i think the 03/04 season when Oshkosh with Coach Pam Ruder, and the Junior Class of Brittney Herrick, Kelly O'Keefe, and Shannon Eggers got the nod.

That was actually 2004-05, Mr. DT.

Oshkosh was #1 in Week 7 of 2004-05. (http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/05/week7.htm) ; They lost their next game to Stout.

Stevens Point was #1 in Week 6 of 2003-04. (http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/04/week6.htm) ; They lost their next game to Platteville.

[hoops49]

Blue Devil Bob-

Your team whupped up on their opponents, but let's look at the overall picture:
They have 12 girls on their roster
Stout has 21 (almost double); and we know how Coach T likes to sub and run.

That school is a SMALL liberal arts college.

Their overall record is 2-7; conference record 0-3.

Sorry, but if you're going to get on here and boast people will be curious enough to see why Stout beat up on them.......no competition.

I would want to see my team play evenly matched teams since they are traveling so far.  Whoever scheduled these games didn't do a very good job of it.

[Just Bill]

hoops46,

Teams have no control over who they play on these tournaments.  You sign up, pay your money, and the tournament organizer makes the pairings.

And while Immaculata is a small school, Oswego is a large public.

(Not that size of school or size of roster make much difference, since everyone has the ability to recruit and only five can be on the floor at a time.)

[hoops49]

I don't know how you can say the size of roster doesn't matter. It sure does. Depth....fresh players. That is why Stout is so successful.

The bottom line is Stout had no competition and that's too bad given how far they traveled.

 
Looking forward to the rest of the season.

[Just Bill]

Size of roster does matter, but you can't hold Stout accountable because the other team didn't have as many players.  Nobody put a roster limit on Immaculata or anyone else, so your assertation that Stout is taking advantage of them because of that is flawed.

If a large a roster was all it took to be successful why doesn't everyone carry 20+ players?  I recall a UWSP that won a national title with 15 and a UW-Oshkosh team that won one with 13.  Quality of players matters far more than quantity of players.

If a team has 22 kids that stink, they won't beat anybody.

[hoops49]

You're entitled to your own thoughts and theories. Mine certainly have not changed, but strengthened. I'll just leave it at that.

[BDB]

Sorry, but if you're going to get on here and boast people will be curious enough to see why Stout beat up on them.......no competition.

People on here are curious to see how teams in the WIAC do. That's what I posted, how Stout did in this tournament. Call that boasting? There's alot of boasting then that goes on in Post Patterns/Posting Up.

If a team has 22 kids that stink, they won't beat anybody.

Exactly.

You're entitled to your own thoughts and theories. Mine certainly have not changed, but strengthened. I'll just leave it at that.

And your theory is what? 

[Blue Devil Backer]

Where do you get 21 their is only 19 and one is still out with injury

[buf]

Both UWO and River Falls are victorious tonight.

[hoops49]

Sorry, but if you're going to get on here and boast people will be curious enough to see why Stout beat up on them.......no competition.

People on here are curious to see how teams in the WIAC do. That's what I posted, how Stout did in this tournament. Call that boasting? There's alot of boasting then that goes on in Post Patterns/Posting Up.

If a team has 22 kids that stink, they won't beat anybody.

Exactly.

You're entitled to your own thoughts and theories. Mine certainly have not changed, but strengthened. I'll just leave it at that.

And your theory is what? 

Where do you get 21 their is only 19 and one is still out with injury

I'm getting 21 from their roster that is on their website.

[badgerwarhawk]

Pat,
Couldn't you guys just ignore us and let us slip under the radar for a while? 

We're #2 so we'll just have to try harder 

Seriously, with a long and arduous conference schedule ahead maintaining this pace is going to be challenging. 

[The Champ]

I'm getting 21 from their roster that is on their website.

So you researched Stout enough to know that they had 21 players come out for the team at the start of the season.  Great!

But did you take the time to research the last game?  Apparently not.  Maybe you should do better investigative work before posting here.

Stout's starters total playing time in that last game:

Julia Hirssig - 15 minutes

Lindsey Geissler - 17 minutes

Joanna Bird - 18 minutes

Charlee Edwards - 12 minutes

Dani Boese - 11 minutes

In the second half of the game, the starters never even broke a sweat with the following playing times:

Julia Hirssig - 3 minutes

Lindsey Geissler - 5 minutes

Joanna Bird - 5 minutes

Charlee Edwards - 3 minutes

Dani Boese - 3 minutes

Coach T took Stout's normal full court press off midway through the first half.  Every player on the team had at LEAST 7 minutes of playing time.  A lot of the "sub and run" (your words) was done with third or fourth stringers subbing for second or third stringers

Stout opened the season with an extremely difficult non-conference schedule - playing the Badgers (exhibition), and DII teams from Mankato, St. Cloud and Bemidji. 

As already noted, Stout went down to Florida to play in a tournament.  The only request Coach T made of the scheduler is that they not play UW LaCrosse - as UWL is a conference school.  One should understand how tournament scheduling works, before casting aspersions that it was Stout's intention to get matched up against a pair of "cupcakes" in a holiday tournament in Florida.

I don't know how you can say the size of roster doesn't matter. It sure does. Depth....fresh players. That is why Stout is so successful.

How do you explain Stout's loss to UWEC (oh how it pains me to say that...) in the conference opener then?  EC has fewer players, so they must have lost, right???

No, EC was a better team (that day anyway).

Stout and Coach T have been successful because of a lot of hard work and dedication from the players and the coaching staff.    It takes that in order to make all those players function cohesively as a team.

Basketball is a team game - and the players must play together as a unit to obtain their success.

If your thoughts and theories have only been strengthened in this recent discussion, may I suggest that it is only because of hardening of the arteries in your brain...