FB: Region 3 fan poll

[Ralph Turner]

Four Ballots are in. I need the 5th.

Sorry guys. I'm on a work travel week and swamped. I'll get it in tonight.

I wasn't "outing" you.   

Speaking of work, I am still at my day job, too. with 2 more hours to go.

[Scots13]

Four Ballots are in. I need the 5th.

Sorry guys. I'm on a work travel week and swamped. I'll get it in tonight.

I wasn't "outing" you.   

Speaking of work, I am still at my day job, too. with 2 more hours to go.

Well, if it were up to Bernie we could all unionize, work 8-4:30, have the government give us the rest and live like kings. 

[Ralph Turner]

Four Ballots are in. I need the 5th.

Sorry guys. I'm on a work travel week and swamped. I'll get it in tonight.

I wasn't "outing" you.   

Speaking of work, I am still at my day job, too. with 2 more hours to go.

Well, if it were up to Bernie we could all unionize, work 8-4:30, have the government give us the rest and live like kings. 

I work for a governmental entity now, and I got home at 12:15am last night/today.  I wonder if Bernie can cut my hours and maintain my productivity.

Sorry for the delay in the Weekly Poll. I will put it up about 6pm.

[Scots13]

Four Ballots are in. I need the 5th.

Sorry guys. I'm on a work travel week and swamped. I'll get it in tonight.

I wasn't "outing" you.   

Speaking of work, I am still at my day job, too. with 2 more hours to go.

Well, if it were up to Bernie we could all unionize, work 8-4:30, have the government give us the rest and live like kings. 

I work for a governmental entity now, and I got home at 12:15am last night/today.  I wonder if Bernie can cut my hours and maintain my productivity.

Sorry for the delay in the Weekly Poll. I will put it up about 6pm.

He'll do that for burger flippers on government assistance before he does it for you!

(And by "government assistance", I mean welfare.)

[Ron Boerger]

Can we please find somewhere else for political commentary?

[Scots13]

Can we please find somewhere else for political commentary?

It's hard to find a place with men (and women) of such high moral fiber and common sense that are able to carry on a decent conversation on current events. That being said, I'll shut up.

[Ralph Turner]

Week #6

1)  UMHB           50      (1,1,1,1,1)
2)  TMC              44      (2,2,2,2,3)
3)  JHU             41      (2,3,3,3,3)
4)  HSU              35      (4,4,4,4,4)
5)  W&J               28     (5,5,5,6,6)    (5th place votes get 6 points. 6th place votes get 5 points.)

6)  TLU               27      (5,5,6,6,6)
7)  W&L              19      (7,7,7,7,8)
8)  Berry             11      (8,8,8,9,x)
9)  Gettysburg      5      (8,9,x,x,x)
10T) Chicago        4      (9,10,10,x,x)
10T)  Guilford       4      (7,x,x,x,x)

RV)  Maryville        2     (10,10,x,x,x)
RV)  HSC              2      (9,x,x,x,x)
RV)  E&H              2       (9,x,x,x,x)
RV)  CWRU           1       (10,x,x,x,x)

[jknezek]

I'm assuming it is JHU in consensus third?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Has someone forgotten that TMC and W&J already played and it was an 18 point game?

More importantly, has Ralph forgotten that W&J can't be both 3rd and 5th??

I would have guessed that the second W&J was W&L, but there they are at #7.  I don't recall the South teams well enough to solve this one!

EDIT: OK, I can't find anyone that could have plausibly been mis-typed as W&J, so must have been a complete 'brain fart' (been there, done that) by Ralph.  Since the second W&J got all 5s and 6s, some voter should be able to easily identify the 'missing' team.

SECOND EDIT: jk's updated post has probably solved the mystery and JHU is 3rd, W&J 5th.

[Ralph Turner]

And corrected.  Thanks and +1! to both.

[Ralph Turner]

Week #7   

1)  UMHB             50    1,1,1,1,1
2)  TMC                44    2,2,2,2,3
3)  JHU                 41    2,3,3,3,3
4)  HSU                35    4,4,4,4,4
5)  W&J                28    5,5,5,6,6

6)  TLU                 27    5,5,6,6,6
7)  W&L                18    7,7,7,8,8
8)  Berry               13    7,8,8,8,x
9)  Chicago            9     9,9,10,10,x
10T) Guilford         4     7,x,x,x,x,
10T)  Maryville       4     9,9,x,x,x

RV)  HSC               2     9,x,x,x,x
RV)  CRWU            2     10,10,x,x,x
RV)  Gettysburg    1      10,x,x,x,x

[Ralph Turner]

#3 UMHB (South Region Fan Poll #1) hosts #24 Texas Lutheran (South Region Fan Poll #6).

Question to all the fans.  Please give us your opinion.

What is the final margin of victory, by what team, in this game, that is, a national #3 hosting a national #24?

Is the normal and statistically probable margin for the home team to win 17 points?

What margin of victory maintains both teams in the polls, UMHB #3 at national and at #1 in the Fan Poll and TLU at #24 nationally and at #6 in the South Region Fan Poll?

Thanks

[ExTartanPlayer]

I'll admit to everyone that the bottom couple of slots honestly could go to any of a couple teams.  I have Berry-Chicago-CWRU in the 8-9-10 slots but that could just as easily be Maryville and Guilford ahead of all.  It's hard to make the judgement call there without much common data, and despite Maryville's big H2H win over Berry in the opener, they seem to have fallen off since then while Berry seems to be coming on.  But I really can't argue too vigorously with someone who prefers Maryville to Berry.

Gettysburg seems like a curious vote in the same week they went down hard to Muhlenberg (at home, too).  I think if you want to go with a second Centennial team right now, it should be Moravian, with only a loss to Johns Hopkins.  But that will also sort itself out as the handful of 5-1 and 4-2 Centennial teams all go at it the next few weeks.

CWRU will have their chance to make a statement with W & J this weekend.

[ExTartanPlayer]

#3 UMHB (South Region Fan Poll #1) hosts #24 Texas Lutheran (South Region Fan Poll #6).

Question to all the fans.  Please give us your opinion.

What is the final margin of victory, by what team, in this game, that is, a national #3 hosting a national #24?

Is the normal and statistically probable margin for the home team to win 17 points?

What margin of victory maintains both teams in the polls, UMHB #3 at national and at #1 in the Fan Poll and TLU at #24 nationally and at #6 in the South Region Fan Poll?

Thanks

This is a really good point, because I think you're driving at something that is also a pet peeve of mine: teams automatically being dropped from the poll after losses regardless of the quality of the result.  I think a loss at UMHB by 17 points absolutely should keep TLU where they are (although it should not just be about final MOV, but actual competitiveness of the game; I perceive it differently if the game is 21-14 at halftime with a final of 34-14 than if it's 34-0 at halftime with a final of 34-14.  One of those games was "competitive" and the other was clearly not).  Probably the only way I would hammer TLU is if they put up a real stinker, like a 60-point loss.

[jknezek]

If TLU stays within 20 points of UMHB I probably won't move them at all. Sure they'll have 2 losses, but to teams ahead of them in the poll. They SHOULD lose those games. If they lose by 21 or more, I'll probably shift them down but not out. If they lose by 35, I'd probably move them out of my top 10 because I think other teams could probably get within 35 of UMHB and not have 2 losses. What do I expect to happen? They lose by 21.

So long as UMHB wins, I can't imagine moving them out of the 1 spot.

I have Berry, W&L, Chicago, CWRU in the bottom of my poll. Berry holds a pair of good wins in Chicago and Hendrix. Why are they ahead of W&L? Because W&L just made hard work of a team they shouldn't have. So even though Berry has a loss, it was week 1, and W&L struggled in Week 7. Chicago ahead of Case because they won. Case ahead of Guilford because they lost by 1 to a 7/8 team and Guilford lost by 2. In reality insignificant, but it's as good a reason as any to have them in front.

Case will need to stay somewhat close to W&J to hold off dropping out in favor of Guilford.

Why not Maryville? Because their loss was embarrassing. Just like I'd have dropped W&L cold if they had lost to a bad R-MC, and I did move the Generals down a spot for the struggle, M'ville has a stink from NC Wes and the Methodist dogfight.

Why not H-SC? Because they lost by more than Guilford to W&L, and it was at H-SC. Discounting the beat down Wabash gave them, they don't stack up well to Guilford and I have Guilford just missing out.

Gettysburg just got buried. That's an odd vote.

Just my thoughts.