FB: Region 3 fan poll

[wally_wabash]

Yes, this all makes sense. I guess I'm not necessarily arguing that TLU is better than HSU, I agree that HSU is probably the better team. My point is that if a tie needs to be broken - for ranking or Pool C reasons - head-to-head should allow TLU to be in front. They deserve opportunities that HSU does not because they beat them when it counted.

I would guess that TLU will be ranked ahead of HSU in the regional rankings today.  But maybe not!  If HSU's results vs. common opponents are consistently "better" than TLU's, that's all primary criteria that can be part of a case to rank HSU higher.

Neither TLU or HSU are likely to have Pool C opportunities regardless of which is ranked higher. 

[jknezek]

Yes, this all makes sense. I guess I'm not necessarily arguing that TLU is better than HSU, I agree that HSU is probably the better team. My point is that if a tie needs to be broken - for ranking or Pool C reasons - head-to-head should allow TLU to be in front. They deserve opportunities that HSU does not because they beat them when it counted.

Well, this poll has nothing to do with Pool C. There is different criteria there, and, frankly, both TLU and HSU will be long shots for the limited Pool C bids available. 2 losses is tough for Pool C unless they are very, very good losses, though that isn't the only criteria for Pool C. TLU's loss to Hendrix isn't good. H2H is important. But it's not the only stat that matters.

[wally_wabash]

TLU is indeed ranked ahead of HSU in today's rankings.

[BerryCollegeFan]

Yes, this all makes sense. I guess I'm not necessarily arguing that TLU is better than HSU, I agree that HSU is probably the better team. My point is that if a tie needs to be broken - for ranking or Pool C reasons - head-to-head should allow TLU to be in front. They deserve opportunities that HSU does not because they beat them when it counted.

I would guess that TLU will be ranked ahead of HSU in the regional rankings today.  But maybe not!  If HSU's results vs. common opponents are consistently "better" than TLU's, that's all primary criteria that can be part of a case to rank HSU higher.

Neither TLU or HSU are likely to have Pool C opportunities regardless of which is ranked higher.

And unfortunately for both 2 losses is almost always a Pool C killer.  Although I agree that the H2H winner should get a slight edge in any ranking.

[Bob.Gregg]

Let's see all hell break loose tomorrow.....let's have an upset fest like we haven't seen in more than 20 years.....what the heck?!!!

[Ralph Turner]

South Region Fan Poll  Week #11

1)  UMHB	50	1,1,1,1,1	.	.
2)  Muhlenberg	45	2,2,2,2,2	.	.
3T)  Susq	37	3,3,4,4,4	.	.
3T)  HSU	37	3,3,3,4,5	.	.
5)  B'water	27	4,5,5,6,8	.	.
.	.	.	.	.
6)  Berry	26	5,6,6,6,6	.	.
7)  TLU	19	5,7,7,8,9	.	.
8)  Trinity TX	16	7,7,7,9,9	.	.
9)  CWRU	13	8,8,8,10,x	.	.
10) RMC	4	9,10,10,x,x	.	.
.	.	.	.	.
RV JHU	3	9,10,x,x,x	.	.
RV CMU	1	10,x,x,x,x	.	.
.	.	.	.	.
.	.	.	.	.

Corrections are always appreciated. 

Thanks to ADL70, hasanova, Scots13 and FCGrizzlies.
We will have a WeeK #11 Poll and then the final poll after the last week that a South Region team plays.

[Ralph Turner]

South Region Fan Poll  Final 2019

1)  Muhlenberg	49	1,1,1,1,2	.	.
2)  UMHB	46	1,2,2,2,2	.	.
3)  Susq	39	3,3,3,3,4	.	.
4)  HSU	34	3,4,4,5,5	.	.
5)  B'water	32	4,4,5,5,5	.	.
.	.	.	.	.
6)  CWRU	20	6,7,7,7,8	.	.
7)  TLU	18	6,6,7,8,8	.	.
8)  Berry	11	6,9,9,9,x	.	.
9)  Huntindgon	9	7,8,9,x,x	.	.
10) RMC	8	6,9,10,x,x	.	.
.	.	.	.	.
RV Trinity TX	2	10,10,x,x,x	.	.
RV JHU	1	10,x,x,x,x	.	.
RV W&J	1	10,x,x,x,x	.	.
.	.	.	.	.

Corrections are always appreciated. 

Thanks to ADL70, hasanova, Scots13 and FCGrizzlies.

[Bob.Gregg]

It's funny that Carnegie-Mellon, who beat BOTH CWRU AND W&J, AND finished with the same record as the Presidents, isn't included....

[crufootball]

Thanks for the poll this season. Would love to see how the ASC teams would do against the other South teams.

[ADL70]

It's funny that Carnegie-Mellon, who beat BOTH CWRU AND W&J, AND finished with the same record as the Presidents, isn't included....

Quality wins, but they lost to Grove City, Bethany, and Brevard. W&J finished the season with a win over Ithaca.

[ADL70]

Thanks Ralph for running this again.

[Ralph Turner]

What happens to the South Region Fan Poll?

If the ASC got moved to Region 6, where now 21 participants in 21 Stagg Bowls live, then there is no ASC in the "South Region".

Thoughts?

[crufootball]

What happens to the South Region Fan Poll?

If the ASC got moved to Region 6, where now 21 participants in 21 Stagg Bowls live, then there is no ASC in the "South Region".

Thoughts?

I believe Pat said he was going to reallocate the conferences to their updated region but that obviously hasn't happened yet. Perhaps he is waiting on the last minute change that the In the Huddle guys are talking about which leaves the ASC in a more southerly region. Seems like the current west region folks already have a fan poll so we can create a Region of Death poll if the ASC does in fact stay in the West.

[MRMIKESMITH]

Not sure if any of you are following or subscribe to Outkick 360. However, I just heard the most absurd football take ever...one of the host indicated that FBS should just take the top 70 teams and have their own exclusive thing, while all other programs including D1FCS, DIII, DIII, etc. just play flag football. He indicated that if a young man is not good enough to go to the Alabama's of the world, they need to choose another sport or focus on academics and schools should just stop losing money funding football. Maybe, I misheard, but that's what I took from the take.

If you want to listen to take (50 minutes into showing) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqceAtNSWFM

[jknezek]

Not sure if any of you are following or subscribe to Outkick 360. However, I just heard the most absurd football take ever...one of the host indicated that FBS should just take the top 70 teams and have their own exclusive thing, while all other programs including D1FCS, DIII, DIII, etc. just play flag football. He indicated that if a young man is not good enough to go to the Alabama's of the world, they need to choose another sport or focus on academics and schools should just stop losing money funding football. Maybe, I misheard, but that's what I took from the take.

If you want to listen to take (50 minutes into showing) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqceAtNSWFM

It's a hot take designed to draw laughs and outrage and increase publicity. Following the link just feeds the idiocy. Why give them what they want?