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Hawks88

Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2022, 10:58:32 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 26, 2022, 10:35:34 AM
Someone actually still voted HSU over UMHB despite the beatdown this weekend?

This week's poll isn't out yet. That was last week. Waiting on one voter, though to be fair, it's only Monday morning and all you over-achievers have until Tuesday night to turn in ballots. So not really waiting.
I guess I'm the one being waited on then. Nice.  ;)

BSCpanthers

Quote from: Hawks88 on September 26, 2022, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2022, 10:58:32 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 26, 2022, 10:35:34 AM
Someone actually still voted HSU over UMHB despite the beatdown this weekend?

This week's poll isn't out yet. That was last week. Waiting on one voter, though to be fair, it's only Monday morning and all you over-achievers have until Tuesday night to turn in ballots. So not really waiting.
I guess I'm the one being waited on then. Nice.  ;)

Come on Huntingdon, get your act together and get it in!!!  You'd think with them climbing the ladder they would be excited about getting it done.   ::)

Hawks88

Quote from: BSCpanthers on September 26, 2022, 11:36:23 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 26, 2022, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2022, 10:58:32 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 26, 2022, 10:35:34 AM
Someone actually still voted HSU over UMHB despite the beatdown this weekend?

This week's poll isn't out yet. That was last week. Waiting on one voter, though to be fair, it's only Monday morning and all you over-achievers have until Tuesday night to turn in ballots. So not really waiting.
I guess I'm the one being waited on then. Nice.  ;)

Come on Huntingdon, get your act together and get it in!!!  You'd think with them climbing the ladder they would be excited about getting it done.   ::)
Yeah, it was actually done yesterday. I think I was just admiring it too much and forgot to send it in. LOL

jknezek

A big week for UMHB and Huntingdon. It remains very tight at the top, but instead of it being tight between 3 teams, it's down to 2. Neither of whom have big games this week. The first 5 spots in our poll all face teams with losing records this week. Then we get interesting. Birmingham Southern hosts Berry under the lights, winner will have the inside track to contest the SAA with Trinity. The ODAC returns to action this week, giving us more games, but Shenandoah faces a winless opponent.

Region 3 (South Atlantic-Ish) Fan Poll Week 4
Conferences: ASC, ODAC, SAA, USASAC










Rank
School
Points
Weekly Change
Voter Breakdown
1
UMHB (4)
46
0
2 , 2 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 , 1
2
Trinity (TX) (3)
45
0
1 , 1 , 2 , 2 , 2 , 1 , 2
3
Huntingdon
31
1
3 , 3 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 4 , 3
4
Hardin-Simmons
26
-1
4 , 4 , 3 , 3 , 3 , 5
5
R-MC
18
0
5 , 4 , 5 , 7 , 4 , 6 , 7
6
Berry
16
0
7 , 7 , 6 , 5 , 6 , 5 , 4
7
B-SC
9
0
6 , 7 , 6 , 7 , 7 , 6

Also Receiving Votes:
Shenandoah (5)

Newly Ranked: None
Dropped Out: None

1 = 1st Place Vote, 7 = 7th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Hawks88, BSCpanthers, Wild Horse Rider, Ralph Turner, ksclegal, Cowboy2, jknezek

BSCpanthers

I'll go ahead and own up that I'm the one that left Hardin-Simmons out this week. Anyone that loses by 30 at home doesn't currently deserve to be in the top 7.  Obviously time will tell where everyone will shake out, but no one else in the top 7 has a bad loss, but 30 looks bad. 

Berry and BSC play this weekend

That is probably the most interesting game this weekend concerning the top 7.  Also be interesting to see how Hardin-Simmons and UMHB respond to this past weekends game. 

jknezek

Quote from: BSCpanthers on September 26, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
I'll go ahead and own up that I'm the one that left Hardin-Simmons out this week. Anyone that loses by 30 at home doesn't currently deserve to be in the top 7.  Obviously time will tell where everyone will shake out, but no one else in the top 7 has a bad loss, but 30 looks bad. 

Berry and BSC play this weekend

That is probably the most interesting game this weekend concerning the top 7.  Also be interesting to see how Hardin-Simmons and UMHB respond to this past weekends game.

I'm not sure anyone but Trinity DOESN'T lose by 30 to UMHB. When you look at their playoff games against in-region opponents, 30 pts is where it's at with the exception of Trinity last year. 

2021  UMHB 13 - 3 Trinity
2021  UMHB 42 - 7 B-SC
2019  UMHB 42 - 6 Huntingdon
2018  UMHB 75 - 9 Berry

I will say I was appalled, absolutely appalled, at Hardin-Simmons ball security at one point. It was 3 fumbles with a dropped but recovered punt or kickoff almost in a row and I stopped watching. You can't beat a top tier team with those mistakes. Though UMHB's penalties were also ugly... 10-119.

I've said it before, but when you watch UMHB and Hardin-Simmons vs the other teams in the region, or across great swaths of D3, their size and speed are just on a different level. Sometimes I grimace at their execution, especially on offense, but they have the joes to make up for it.

Having seen W&L play UMU twice in the playoffs, and watched various other UMU games, it's always been their speed and execution that has stuck out, not their size.

With the WIAC/MIAC, when I watch, it's size and execution, not always speed.

I doubt too many teams in the region are going to match up to UMHB's size and speed to come within 30 points. Outside Trinity last year, I don't remember the last non-ASC South Region team to hang with them.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: BSCpanthers on September 26, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
I'll go ahead and own up that I'm the one that left Hardin-Simmons out this week. Anyone that loses by 30 at home doesn't currently deserve to be in the top 7.  Obviously time will tell where everyone will shake out, but no one else in the top 7 has a bad loss, but 30 looks bad. 

Berry and BSC play this weekend

That is probably the most interesting game this weekend concerning the top 7.  Also be interesting to see how Hardin-Simmons and UMHB respond to this past weekends game.
... and that 30 point smackdown occurred 1 week after HSU did something no one, absolutely no one has done since 2005... Shut out UW-Platteville.

Hawks88

Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2022, 03:35:01 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on September 26, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
I'll go ahead and own up that I'm the one that left Hardin-Simmons out this week. Anyone that loses by 30 at home doesn't currently deserve to be in the top 7.  Obviously time will tell where everyone will shake out, but no one else in the top 7 has a bad loss, but 30 looks bad. 

Berry and BSC play this weekend

That is probably the most interesting game this weekend concerning the top 7.  Also be interesting to see how Hardin-Simmons and UMHB respond to this past weekends game.

I'm not sure anyone but Trinity DOESN'T lose by 30 to UMHB. When you look at their playoff games against in-region opponents, 30 pts is where it's at with the exception of Trinity last year. 

2021  UMHB 13 - 3 Trinity
2021  UMHB 42 - 7 B-SC
2019  UMHB 42 - 6 Huntingdon
2018  UMHB 75 - 9 Berry

I will say I was appalled, absolutely appalled, at Hardin-Simmons ball security at one point. It was 3 fumbles with a dropped but recovered punt or kickoff almost in a row and I stopped watching. You can't beat a top tier team with those mistakes. Though UMHB's penalties were also ugly... 10-119.

I've said it before, but when you watch UMHB and Hardin-Simmons vs the other teams in the region, or across great swaths of D3, their size and speed are just on a different level. Sometimes I grimace at their execution, especially on offense, but they have the joes to make up for it.

Having seen W&L play UMU twice in the playoffs, and watched various other UMU games, it's always been their speed and execution that has stuck out, not their size.

With the WIAC/MIAC, when I watch, it's size and execution, not always speed.

I doubt too many teams in the region are going to match up to UMHB's size and speed to come within 30 points. Outside Trinity last year, I don't remember the last non-ASC South Region team to hang with them.
Looks like it goes all the way back to Wesley in '11 and '12. I don't know if '15 would count when Huntingdon kind of hung with UMHB for most of the game. We scored early in the 4th to make it a 6 point game before they added a couple of TD's to pull away and beat us by 20.

BSCpanthers

Top 7 is getting tougher as 3 teams in the ODAC are still undefeated, problem is, they haven't played anyone.  Going to have to put some time into really analyzing where these teams fit among the rest of Region 3.  Time to hit the books and get these teams sorted out. 

BSC had a good home win against Berry.
Trinity and Huntingdon both struggled in the first half before bringing home their wins.

BSC travels to Trinity this week, and Shenandoah travels to Bridgewater, so more clarity will come next week.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: BSCpanthers on October 02, 2022, 02:09:38 PM
Top 7 is getting tougher as 3 teams in the ODAC are still undefeated, problem is, they haven't played anyone.  Going to have to put some time into really analyzing where these teams fit among the rest of Region 3.  Time to hit the books and get these teams sorted out. 

BSC had a good home win against Berry.
Trinity and Huntingdon both struggled in the first half before bringing home their wins.

BSC travels to Trinity this week, and Shenandoah travels to Bridgewater, so more clarity will come next week.
I counted on Huntingdon needing some time to put away Murvul, on the road.

I am still wondering about TUTx. the BSC game sorts out much this weekend.

I do like the quality of football being played across the southern conferences in Region 3.

jknezek

The Fan Poll is in early again. Shenandoah comes in, Berry drops out. Bridgewater and Howard Payne get their first mentions of the season.

I suspect the game of the week, or at least the most relevant, will be Birmingham Southern at Trinity. Right behind it will be Bridgewater hosting Shenandoah. Cards on the table... I'm the Bridgewater voter and I suspect they will take Shenandoah by at least 10, but betting on anything in the ODAC can make a fool out of you real quick.

Berry is off this week while the rest of the top 7 and RV teams have winnable games.



Region 3 (South Atlantic-Ish) Fan Poll Week 5
Conferences: ASC, ODAC, SAA, USASAC










Rank
School
Points
Weekly Change
Voter Breakdown
1
UMHB (4)
46
0
2 , 2 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 , 1
2
Trinity (TX) (3)
45
0
1 , 1 , 2 , 2 , 2 , 1 , 2
3
Huntingdon
31
0
3 , 3 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 4 , 3
4
Hardin-Simmons
26
0
4 , 4 , 3 , 3 , 3 , 5
5
R-MC
19
0
5 , 4 , 5 , 7 , 4 , 6 , 6
6
B-SC
18
1
7 , 5 , 6 , 5 , 6 , 5 , 4
7
Shenandoah
6
---
6 , 6 , 7 , 7

Also Receiving Votes:
Berry (2) , Howard Payne (2) , Bridgewater (1)

Newly Ranked: Shenandoah
Dropped Out: Berry (Prev:6)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 7 = 7th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Hawks88, BSCpanthers, Wild Horse Rider, Ralph Turner, ksclegal, Cowboy2, jknezek

Hawks88

Huntingdon is also off this week.
Actually went to the schedule to confirm as the way this morning has gone I wasn't 100% sure of that.  :-\

crufootball

Hard to say I know but does the ASC have any path to get 3 teams ranked in the regional rankings this year?

UMHB and HPU are the leaders right now but both do have a loss as does HSU so the conference champ will be 9-1 at best. The safest bet is UMHB wins out but I am wondering can any result between HPU and HSU leave them both in the regional rankings at the end of the year? If HSU stomps on HPU or the other way around I don't see both being ranked but if HPU wins a shootout type game and both finish 8-2 could HSU stay a team worthy of being ranked?

Ron Boerger

Would need an awful lot of help from the rest of the region for HPU and HSU to get ranked.  Don't think HPU has ever been RR and even though that's not supposed to matter I think it can sometimes.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 06, 2022, 04:38:09 PM
Would need an awful lot of help from the rest of the region for HPU and HSU to get ranked.  Don't think HPU has ever been RR and even though that's not supposed to matter I think it can sometimes.
The loss to GFU really hurt. I don't think that two 2-loss ASC teams edge out anyone else.

If we look at 7 slots, We see 4 going to conference winners.
That leaves 3 runners-up. I see them shaking out as one each to the ASC, SAA and the ODAC. I am looking at HSU, Shen and BSC