FB: Region 3 fan poll

[crufootball]

Well there is nothing spooky at all about this poll. The top 3 spots all stay the same. RMC scratches out an extra point to break the tie with Hardin-Simmons. Belhaven reappears in the 7th spot, edging out Berry and dropping HPU following the game with Hardin-Simmons.

Games of the Week:
B-SC hosts Centre
Howard Payne hosts UMHB

Region 3 (South Atlantic-Ish) Fan Poll Week 8

Conferences: ASC, ODAC, SAA, USASAC

Rank			School			Points			Weekly Change			Voter Breakdown
1			UMHB (4)			46			0			2 , 2 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 , 1
2			Trinity (TX) (3)			44			0			1 , 1 , 2 , 3 , 2 , 1 , 2
3			Huntingdon			32			0			3 , 3 , 3 , 5 , 4 , 3 , 3
4			R-MC			25			1			4 , 4 , 5 , 4 , 3 , 6 , 5
5			Hardin-Simmons			24			-1			5 , 6 , 4 , 2 , 5 , 4 , 6
6			B-SC			18			0			6 , 5 , 6 , 6 , 6 , 5 , 4
7			Belhaven			4			---			7 , 7 , 7 , 7

Also Receiving Votes:
Berry (3)

Newly Ranked: Belhaven
Dropped Out: Howard Payne (Prev:7)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 7 = 7th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Hawks88, BSCpanthers, Wild Horse Rider, Ralph Turner, ksclegal, Cowboy2, jknezek

Kind of surprised HPU didn't keep a single vote, clearly this poll disagrees with main D3 football.com poll in terms of how good HSU is, but either way a fringe team for both rankings went on the road and weren't out of it until close to the end against a higher ranked team. Not saying HPU is definitely a top 7 team in the region but I don't think they would get blown away from teams 5-15 in the region either.

[jknezek]

Well there is nothing spooky at all about this poll. The top 3 spots all stay the same. RMC scratches out an extra point to break the tie with Hardin-Simmons. Belhaven reappears in the 7th spot, edging out Berry and dropping HPU following the game with Hardin-Simmons.

Games of the Week:
B-SC hosts Centre
Howard Payne hosts UMHB

Region 3 (South Atlantic-Ish) Fan Poll Week 8

Conferences: ASC, ODAC, SAA, USASAC

Rank			School			Points			Weekly Change			Voter Breakdown
1			UMHB (4)			46			0			2 , 2 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 , 1
2			Trinity (TX) (3)			44			0			1 , 1 , 2 , 3 , 2 , 1 , 2
3			Huntingdon			32			0			3 , 3 , 3 , 5 , 4 , 3 , 3
4			R-MC			25			1			4 , 4 , 5 , 4 , 3 , 6 , 5
5			Hardin-Simmons			24			-1			5 , 6 , 4 , 2 , 5 , 4 , 6
6			B-SC			18			0			6 , 5 , 6 , 6 , 6 , 5 , 4
7			Belhaven			4			---			7 , 7 , 7 , 7

Also Receiving Votes:
Berry (3)

Newly Ranked: Belhaven
Dropped Out: Howard Payne (Prev:7)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 7 = 7th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Hawks88, BSCpanthers, Wild Horse Rider, Ralph Turner, ksclegal, Cowboy2, jknezek

Kind of surprised HPU didn't keep a single vote, clearly this poll disagrees with main D3 football.com poll in terms of how good HSU is, but either way a fringe team for both rankings went on the road and weren't out of it until close to the end against a higher ranked team. Not saying HPU is definitely a top 7 team in the region but I don't think they would get blown away from teams 5-15 in the region either.

I don't think so either. But when I was trying to figure out my #7, I looked at Berry, HPU and Belhaven and went "best loss". I ranked them Berry, Belhaven and HPU based on the following criteria. Berry has a 7pt loss at my #2 (Trinity) and a 14pt loss at my #4 (B-SC). Plus the loss at home against Whitewater gives them 0-3 RvR, but none by more than 2 scores and 2 on the road. Belhaven has a 13pt loss on the road to my #3 (Huntingdon). HPU has a 9pt road loss to my #6 (Hardin-Simmons).

This week is another chance for HPU. Honestly, a good showing against UMHB and I'd push them above Belhaven, since they'd be 0-2 RvR and presumably 2 close-ish losses. Depending on how good a showing HPU makes, they could jump Berry. And I don't mean a win. Clearly I'm differentiating between losses here.

Hardin-Simmons problem to me is I think 30pts to UMHB just wasn't that impressive. Especially given how sloppy they were. And UW-P is so all over the darn map. Did Hardin-Simmons face the team that choked out Bethel and UWW, or the team that got destroyed by UW-O and lost to UW-Stout?

Judging Hardin-Simmons is really the problem.

[crufootball]

Well there is nothing spooky at all about this poll. The top 3 spots all stay the same. RMC scratches out an extra point to break the tie with Hardin-Simmons. Belhaven reappears in the 7th spot, edging out Berry and dropping HPU following the game with Hardin-Simmons.

Games of the Week:
B-SC hosts Centre
Howard Payne hosts UMHB

Region 3 (South Atlantic-Ish) Fan Poll Week 8

Conferences: ASC, ODAC, SAA, USASAC

Rank			School			Points			Weekly Change			Voter Breakdown
1			UMHB (4)			46			0			2 , 2 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 , 1
2			Trinity (TX) (3)			44			0			1 , 1 , 2 , 3 , 2 , 1 , 2
3			Huntingdon			32			0			3 , 3 , 3 , 5 , 4 , 3 , 3
4			R-MC			25			1			4 , 4 , 5 , 4 , 3 , 6 , 5
5			Hardin-Simmons			24			-1			5 , 6 , 4 , 2 , 5 , 4 , 6
6			B-SC			18			0			6 , 5 , 6 , 6 , 6 , 5 , 4
7			Belhaven			4			---			7 , 7 , 7 , 7

Also Receiving Votes:
Berry (3)

Newly Ranked: Belhaven
Dropped Out: Howard Payne (Prev:7)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 7 = 7th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Hawks88, BSCpanthers, Wild Horse Rider, Ralph Turner, ksclegal, Cowboy2, jknezek

Kind of surprised HPU didn't keep a single vote, clearly this poll disagrees with main D3 football.com poll in terms of how good HSU is, but either way a fringe team for both rankings went on the road and weren't out of it until close to the end against a higher ranked team. Not saying HPU is definitely a top 7 team in the region but I don't think they would get blown away from teams 5-15 in the region either.

I don't think so either. But when I was trying to figure out my #7, I looked at Berry, HPU and Belhaven and went "best loss". I ranked them Berry, Belhaven and HPU based on the following criteria. Berry has a 7pt loss at my #2 (Trinity) and a 14pt loss at my #4 (B-SC). Plus the loss at home against Whitewater gives them 0-3 RvR, but none by more than 2 scores and 2 on the road. Belhaven has a 13pt loss on the road to my #3 (Huntingdon). HPU has a 9pt road loss to my #6 (Hardin-Simmons).

This week is another chance for HPU. Honestly, a good showing against UMHB and I'd push them above Belhaven, since they'd be 0-2 RvR and presumably 2 close-ish losses. Depending on how good a showing HPU makes, they could jump Berry. And I don't mean a win. Clearly I'm differentiating between losses here.

Hardin-Simmons problem to me is I think 30pts to UMHB just wasn't that impressive. Especially given how sloppy they were. And UW-P is so all over the darn map. Did Hardin-Simmons face the team that choked out Bethel and UWW, or the team that got destroyed by UW-O and lost to UW-Stout?

Judging Hardin-Simmons is really the problem.

Can't say you are wrong on any of that, as usual its the Cowboys fault (haha). I feel bad a bit for HSU, they finally go out and schedule a name brand for a non conference game, control the entire game and then UW-P proceeds to yo-yo with everyone on how significant that game and numerous other really are. Very anxious to see the first real ranking, not the one in alpha order, and then see how it all shakes on come selection Sunday.

[ksclegal]

I watched the Howard Payne/Harden Simmons game and felt that HPU did a good job of denying the run game of HSU and making HSU beat them with the passing game. I felt a one loss Belhaven team and was more deserving than a 2 loss HPU team. I think UMHB puts it all together this week against HPU.

[Ralph Turner]

The George Fox loss has been my yardstick all season for HPU. Had they beaten GFU, they would have always been in my ballot.

[Wild Horse Rider]

My top 6 has been the same for some time though the order has changed. Number 7 has been where I have had the hardest time. I have Huntington ranked above Harden Simmons so in my eyes that is a "better loss". That plus the second loss is why I ranked Belhaven 7th over HPU.

[Cowboy2]

My top 6 has been the same for some time though the order has changed. Number 7 has been where I have had the hardest time. I have Huntington ranked above Harden Simmons so in my eyes that is a "better loss". That plus the second loss is why I ranked Belhaven 7th over HPU.

Same here. For me I've watched a lot of the OOC games and that's where I see the difference. The Linfield, UWW, Wheaton games played a key role throughout the season for me. UWP did until...well until the WIAC has shown to be really competitive or that the top dawgs have slide. That's to be determined

Linfield squeezed one out at Huntingdon
Trinity beat Wheaton in OT
Cru gave away UWW
Cowboys, well got down and out against UMHB.

BSC has two 4Q losses by 3. Would love to see them play HSU.

HPU had their Chance! But after seeing Linfield play GFU it ended it for me. They can bounce back this week but we'll see. I'm sure they would do well against some other #2 teams but they let HSU impose 21 unanswered points and couldn't do anything. Didn't adjust second half. Left middle of the field open.

Then you have R-MC who has destroyed everyone but the last two games... that bridgwater game was upsetting. I'd like to see more there because I considered putting them at 7 earlier.

Belhaven is in the similar boat on sample size.

For me it was Berry... based on who they lost to so far, margin of loss, I felt if they played either of the three above their defense would win for them while they ran out the clock with the run game.

In other news...the Crazy thing is...in a few weeks this poll may have the top 3-4 beat each other out by week 2 of playoffs, which stinks from being able to watch multiple R3 teams deep into the playoffs.

[tigerguy]

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/d3/regional-rankings

Bridgewater over BSC - yuck.

[Wild Horse Rider]

Unless W&L beats Bridgewater I would think that the 7 teams in the original regional ranking will be the teams in there after week 11.  Based on Trinity's SOS I would think that they will be ranked #1.  My best guess is:

1. Trinity (1 RR win)
2. UMHB (1 RR win 1 RR loss)
3. Randy Mac (1 RR win)
4. Huntingdon (1 RR win and 1 RR loss)
5. HSU (1 RR win and 1 RR loss)
6. Bridgewater (1 RR loss)
7. Belhaven (1 RR loss)

I could be missing something and I wouldn't be mad if HSU was ranked higher to have a better chance at Pool C

[jknezek]

Unless W&L beats Bridgewater I would think that the 7 teams in the original regional ranking will be the teams in there after week 11.  Based on Trinity's SOS I would think that they will be ranked #1.  My best guess is:

1. Trinity (1 RR win)
2. UMHB (1 RR win 1 RR loss)
3. Randy Mac (1 RR win)
4. Huntingdon (1 RR win and 1 RR loss)
5. HSU (1 RR win and 1 RR loss)
6. Bridgewater (1 RR loss)
7. Belhaven (1 RR loss)

I could be missing something and I wouldn't be mad if HSU was ranked higher to have a better chance at Pool C

Assuming this all holds serve, HSU would be the first Region III team to the table. 1-4 are all Pool A. That actually bodes well for them. Being on the table early helps some. What will really help is if UWP can stay in the RR.

[Cowboy2]

Unless W&L beats Bridgewater I would think that the 7 teams in the original regional ranking will be the teams in there after week 11.  Based on Trinity's SOS I would think that they will be ranked #1.  My best guess is:

1. Trinity (1 RR win)
2. UMHB (1 RR win 1 RR loss)
3. Randy Mac (1 RR win)
4. Huntingdon (1 RR win and 1 RR loss)
5. HSU (1 RR win and 1 RR loss)
6. Bridgewater (1 RR loss)
7. Belhaven (1 RR loss)

I could be missing something and I wouldn't be mad if HSU was ranked higher to have a better chance at Pool C

HSU will be dependent on how UWP finishes out in the R6 rankings. If Linfield is 1-2-3 in R6 I'd swap huntingdon with R-MC in positioning. I feel Linfield would be in the top 3 of R3 as well if they were in this region, so that's my stance on moving Huntingdon up. I feel HSU get the short stick of the draw again, but I also think they're probably 2-4 team in the region conversation... So looking at this further, I understand BSC has 0-2 RR but looking at margins I'd bump them over bridgewater (who got blown out by R-MC) and Belhaven (who lost to huntingdon by more than 3). 

[Hawks88]

Yep, pulling for W&L this weekend to see if we can get both BSC and Belhaven in the rankings though I don't know if that would give us more of a chance of hosting the 1st round or if we're likely to be travelling either way.

[jknezek]

Well... Trinity and UMHB tie for the top spot. R-MC widened the lead for 4th over Hardin-Simmons. Everyone else basically holds serve. Trinity receives more first place votes than UMHB, but UMHB eeks out the tie because Trinity has a 3rd place vote. Hardin-Simmons gets the other second place vote.

Hard to look at the schedule this week and see any upsets. Huntingdon-LaGrange is something of a rivalry. Otherwise, R-MC hosting Hampden-Sydney in The Game. Rivalries can spring surprises?

Region 3 (South Atlantic-Ish) Fan Poll Week 8

Conferences: ASC, ODAC, SAA, USASAC

Rank			School			Points			Weekly Change			Voter Breakdown
T1			Trinity (TX) (4)			45			1			1 , 1 , 2 , 3 , 2 , 1 , 1
T1			UMHB (3)			45			0			2 , 2 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 , 2
3			Huntingdon			32			0			3 , 3 , 3 , 5 , 4 , 3 , 3
4			R-MC			27			0			4 , 4 , 4 , 4 , 3 , 6 , 4
5			Hardin-Simmons			23			0			5 , 6 , 5 , 2 , 5 , 4 , 6
6			B-SC			17			0			6 , 5 , 6 , 6 , 6 , 5 , 5
7			Belhaven			4			0			7 , 7 , 7 , 7

Also Receiving Votes:
Howard Payne (2) , Berry (1)

Newly Ranked: None
Dropped Out: None

1 = 1st Place Vote, 7 = 7th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: Hawks88, BSCpanthers, Wild Horse Rider, Ralph Turner, ksclegal, Cowboy2, jknezek

[Cowboy2]

It'll be interesting to see if BSC gets back in the RRs this week or if Bridgewater stays put.

[Ralph Turner]

Yep, pulling for W&L this weekend to see if we can get both BSC and Belhaven in the rankings though I don't know if that would give us more of a chance of hosting the 1st round or if we're likely to be travelling either way.

Unfortunately, I see HC as a travel orphan who is usually ranked lower than nearer playoff teams, so even if you would be seeded 3rd or 4th in the bracket in a March Madness format, you are always sent to a #1, #2 or #3 seed for "geographical proximity".

I am guessing that the committee has to fill the bracket with these 6 teams from 4 travel-islands. I am using the most recent "Bracketology" rankings.

Linfield (R6 #1) hosts the SCIAC (R6 #6) Flight
Someone else fills that sub-bracket

Huntingdon (R3 #3) hosts UMHB (R3 #4) Flight
Trinity (R3 #1) hosts HSU (R3 #5)

So, Hawks, if you beat UMHB and HSU beats Trinity, then you would host HSU for the likely privilege of going to McMinnville this year! That might be fun.