FB: Region 3 fan poll

[BSCpanthers]

I have a feeling polls will be all over the place this week.  Heck of a start to the season.

[Ron Boerger]

I have a feeling polls will be all over the place this week.  Heck of a start to the season.

But isn't that fun?  A new #1 and I can't wait to see who y'all come up with.  I'd vote for Hardin-Simmons, but we'll see since I don't vote. 

The d3fb poll should be really interesting, too.  I don't see Trinity dropping out of the top ten, but maybe that's my Homer-vision goggles showing. 

[Hawks88]

Still ranking 7 again like last year I presume?

[jknezek]

yes. Welcome back. 7 is the magic number. I debated going to 5 given the size of the region but 7 is more fun.

[jknezek]

Week 1 and we are all over the place. Trinity gets 4 #1 votes but can't hold down the #1 spot. Previous Week data obviously comes from the last poll of last year.

Region 3 (South Atlantic-Ish) Fan Poll Week 1

Conferences: ASC, ODAC, SAA, USASAC

Rank			School			Points			Weekly Change			Voter Breakdown
1			Hardin-Simmons (1)			36			4			2 , 1 , 2 , 2 , 2 , 3
2			Trinity (TX) (4)			35			-1			1 , 5 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 4
3			R-MC (1)			28			1			3 , 4 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 1
4			Berry			20			---			6 , 3 , 5 , 5 , 4 , 5
T5			Howard Payne			19			2			4 , 2 , 7 , 6 , 2
T5			UMHB			19			-3			5 , 6 , 4 , 3 , 3
7			Belhaven			9			---			7 , 7 , 6 , 6 , 7 , 6

Also Receiving Votes:
B-SC (1) , Shenandoah (1)

Newly Ranked: Berry, Belhaven
Dropped Out: Huntingdon (Prev:3), Bridgewater (Prev:6)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 7 = 7th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: jknezek, BSCpanthers, Wild Horse Rider, Ralph Turner, Cowboy2, Hawks88

[Pat Coleman]

Trinity as the fifth-best team in this region is laughable.

[Wild Horse Rider]

It wasn't me Pat but I was the only non vote for Howard Payne.  I believe I forgot how good George Fox was last season and completely didn't take into account the travel from TX to OR to get the win.  They were on the list of teams that I evaluated.  I was the lone vote for Shenandoah and had them at 7 (and as stated above I probably should have had HP in that spot or higher).  I think the pecking order will get a whole lot clearer by October.  Remaining games I believe will have impact on conference races and how the regional rankings that actually matter at the end of the season released by the NCAA are:

9/9 UMHB vs Trinity, BSU vs Huntingdon, Hardin Simmons vs UW La Crosse, & Maryville vs Centre
9/16 UMHB vs UWW, BSU vs Trinity, and Maryville vs Shenandoah
9/30 Howard Payne vs Hardin Simmons, and Berry vs Trinity

I have read the posts on the ASC board about the demise of the Cru.  I am an outside observer and I can't see the ship absolutely falling off a cliff.  I know that 0-3 in OOC is completely unacceptable but they don't play HS and HP till later in the season which would give the new QB time to grow and improve.  Win the AQ and get in the dance and there is a shot.  There is too much talent on that team to just give up after a loss (no matter how bad it was).  I think I will better know about Maryville and what I suspect is a team that can compete for the USAC title in their OOC games.  Hopefully Trinity's QB isn't all that hurt because they sure could use him this weekend. 

The only teams that I see with a relatively easy September are RMC and Belhaven.  I don't think either team is challenged for a few weeks.

[Ron Boerger]

Trinity as the fifth-best team in this region is laughable.

C'mon Pat, they lost by 3 in OT to a top five national opponent a thousand miles from home without much of their defensive backfield for crucial parts of the second half, a banged up QB that couldn't play in OT, and their preseason AA LB on the bench after an incredibly bad call that will almost certainly be thrown out before Saturday.

There's NO WAY they could beat any of Howard Payne or Berry or R-MC with those guys on the field!

(/s if there was utterly any doubt)

[BSCpanthers]

I have two things to say, first, I did not vote for BSC, second, I'm the one that put Trinity 5th.  I have no defense for the Trinity vote, other then I was purely going off this weekend, with no preconceived notions of where someone should be placed.  Obviously, the next couple of weeks will shake out the truth of where these teams really are. 

[crufootball]

I have two things to say, first, I did not vote for BSC, second, I'm the one that put Trinity 5th.  I have no defense for the Trinity vote, other then I was purely going off this weekend, with no preconceived notions of where someone should be placed.  Obviously, the next couple of weeks will shake out the truth of where these teams really are.

So on that reasoning if St. Johns was in Region 3 would you have placed them at 4 and Trinity at 5, since they needed overtime to beat Trinity at home?

[BSCpanthers]

I have two things to say, first, I did not vote for BSC, second, I'm the one that put Trinity 5th.  I have no defense for the Trinity vote, other then I was purely going off this weekend, with no preconceived notions of where someone should be placed.  Obviously, the next couple of weeks will shake out the truth of where these teams really are.

So on that reasoning if St. Johns was in Region 3 would you have placed them at 4 and Trinity at 5, since they needed overtime to beat Trinity at home?

It was week one, wins are better then losses.  I'm sure the rankings will look different in week 4 then they look now.  Trinity has a brutal start to the season with 4 of their first 5 games being big games against good teams. 

[crufootball]

I have two things to say, first, I did not vote for BSC, second, I'm the one that put Trinity 5th.  I have no defense for the Trinity vote, other then I was purely going off this weekend, with no preconceived notions of where someone should be placed.  Obviously, the next couple of weeks will shake out the truth of where these teams really are.

So on that reasoning if St. Johns was in Region 3 would you have placed them at 4 and Trinity at 5, since they needed overtime to beat Trinity at home?

It was week one, wins are better then losses.  I'm sure the rankings will look different in week 4 then they look now.  Trinity has a brutal start to the season with 4 of their first 5 games being big games against good teams.

Obviously this is your vote but are you telling me a close loss to what D3football.com has to the #5 in the country is worse than any victory no matter the opponent?

[BSCpanthers]

I have two things to say, first, I did not vote for BSC, second, I'm the one that put Trinity 5th.  I have no defense for the Trinity vote, other then I was purely going off this weekend, with no preconceived notions of where someone should be placed.  Obviously, the next couple of weeks will shake out the truth of where these teams really are.

So on that reasoning if St. Johns was in Region 3 would you have placed them at 4 and Trinity at 5, since they needed overtime to beat Trinity at home?

It was week one, wins are better then losses.  I'm sure the rankings will look different in week 4 then they look now.  Trinity has a brutal start to the season with 4 of their first 5 games being big games against good teams.

Obviously this is your vote but are you telling me a close loss to what D3football.com has to the #5 in the country is worse than any victory no matter the opponent?

Again, week 1.  Things will play themselves out over the next few weeks.  A victory over that #5 is way better than any loss to them. Sorry, week 1 you don't get quality losses.  Now come week 5 you can look back a count it as a quality loss. 

[crufootball]

I have two things to say, first, I did not vote for BSC, second, I'm the one that put Trinity 5th.  I have no defense for the Trinity vote, other then I was purely going off this weekend, with no preconceived notions of where someone should be placed.  Obviously, the next couple of weeks will shake out the truth of where these teams really are.

So on that reasoning if St. Johns was in Region 3 would you have placed them at 4 and Trinity at 5, since they needed overtime to beat Trinity at home?

It was week one, wins are better then losses.  I'm sure the rankings will look different in week 4 then they look now.  Trinity has a brutal start to the season with 4 of their first 5 games being big games against good teams.

Obviously this is your vote but are you telling me a close loss to what D3football.com has to the #5 in the country is worse than any victory no matter the opponent?

Again, week 1.  Things will play themselves out over the next few weeks.  A victory over that #5 is way better than any loss to them. Sorry, week 1 you don't get quality losses.  Now come week 5 you can look back a count it as a quality loss.

So why did you vote for Trinity at all then, based on the votes you voted Belhaven #6 or 7 and they crushed Millsaps?

[BSCpanthers]

I have two things to say, first, I did not vote for BSC, second, I'm the one that put Trinity 5th.  I have no defense for the Trinity vote, other then I was purely going off this weekend, with no preconceived notions of where someone should be placed.  Obviously, the next couple of weeks will shake out the truth of where these teams really are.

So on that reasoning if St. Johns was in Region 3 would you have placed them at 4 and Trinity at 5, since they needed overtime to beat Trinity at home?

It was week one, wins are better then losses.  I'm sure the rankings will look different in week 4 then they look now.  Trinity has a brutal start to the season with 4 of their first 5 games being big games against good teams.

Obviously this is your vote but are you telling me a close loss to what D3football.com has to the #5 in the country is worse than any victory no matter the opponent?

Again, week 1.  Things will play themselves out over the next few weeks.  A victory over that #5 is way better than any loss to them. Sorry, week 1 you don't get quality losses.  Now come week 5 you can look back a count it as a quality loss.

So why did you vote for Trinity at all then, based on the votes you voted Belhaven #6 or 7 and they crushed Millsaps?

Dude, calm down.  It's WEEK ONE!!!  Should Trinity still be in the top 7 if UMHB beats them???  Should UMHB be there if Trinity beats them???  It will work itself out, give it a couple weeks.