FB: Region 3 fan poll

[Ron Boerger]

I don't think there's anything that says there is an A-B-C heirarchy WRT seeding.  A 8-1 UMHB should be seeded higher than a 7-3 Millsaps (or 7-2 after excluding the Belhaven NAIA loss), should the Majors get the pool A bid (and there's a lot of football to be played before that comes to pass).   Win-loss record is a primary ranking criterion.

[Ralph Turner]

I don't think there's anything that says there is an A-B-C heirarchy WRT seeding.  A 8-1 UMHB should be seeded higher than a 7-3 Millsaps (or 7-2 after excluding the Belhaven NAIA loss), should the Majors get the pool A bid (and there's a lot of football to be played before that comes to pass).   Win-loss record is a primary ranking criterion.

Yes, lots of football to be played, and 2 great games are this weekend.

The best South Region record that UMHB can have is 7-1.  Southern Nazarene and Southern Oregon are NAIA.

[exmajor]

I don't think there's anything that says there is an A-B-C heirarchy WRT seeding.  A 8-1 UMHB should be seeded higher than a 7-3 Millsaps (or 7-2 after excluding the Belhaven NAIA loss), should the Majors get the pool A bid (and there's a lot of football to be played before that comes to pass).   Win-loss record is a primary ranking criterion.

Ron, Millsaps three losses are to MC, Depauw and Huntingdon, the Majors beat Belhaven this year...

[Ron Boerger]

Ron, Millsaps three losses are to MC, Depauw and Huntingdon, the Majors beat Belhaven this year...

Thanks, ex- ... which even more makes the point that, should they meet in the playoffs, a 7-1 (D3 [thanks, Ralph!]) UMHB should have the higher seed and home field advantage versus a 6-3 (D3) Millsaps.  

[crudbdad]

I hope that the southern sub-bracket has

#1 ASC Pool A MissColl
vs  Pool B Huntingdon

and

#2 SCAC Pool A Millsaps
vs Pool C UMHB

only because that bracket does not pair first round games against teams that have played in the regular season, and gets UMHB a Pool C bid. There is a potential for no plane flights, too.

Thanks for the input Ralph. I was speaking to an MC fan after the game and made a comment about seeing them in Novemner and he wasn't aware of the 500 mile rule. I think it would possibly allow the ASC to get 2 teams to round 2 for a change. Milsaps may not like it since they are 10-15 minutes from MC campus.

[exmajor]

As Ron and Ralph have stated, there is a lot to still be settled in the SCAC race before crowing Millsaps or any other team the Pool A winner.  Millsaps needs to beat Centre this weekend and needs for Trinity to beat Depauw to have a clear shot at the title.  A Depauw win this weekend and a Millsaps win sets up a possible co-champion scenario with Depauw taking the auto bid based on head to head.

Much work left to be done before the playoff talk hypes way up!

[Ralph Turner]

I hope that the southern sub-bracket has

#1 ASC Pool A MissColl
vs  Pool B Huntingdon

and

#2 SCAC Pool A Millsaps
vs at #2 Pool C UMHB

only because that bracket does not pair first round games against teams that have played in the regular season, and gets UMHB a Pool C bid. There is a potential for no plane flights, too.

Thanks for the input Ralph. I was speaking to an MC fan after the game and made a comment about seeing them in Novemner and he wasn't aware of the 500 mile rule. I think it would possibly allow the ASC to get 2 teams to round 2 for a change. Milsaps may not like it since they are 10-15 minutes from MC campus.

Aftter reading the discussion and looking at the season's results, I think that this is the best hope for the ASC to get two bids.

No this is not in the criteria.  It is just my paranoia.

I think that there are so many Pool C bids that are so evenly matched by the criteria, that avoiding a plane flight might impact the factors in Pool C.

If they can construct a bracket without a plane flight, then I wonder if that is not a consideration.

No facts, just paranoia.

In any case, I think that the ASC is so strong, that our #2 team (the Pool C candidate) is much stronger than most of the others in the country!

[Bob.Gregg]

I think that there are so many Pool C bids that are so evenly matched by the criteria, that avoiding a plane flight might impact the factors in Pool C.

Ralph, of all people, you should know that geography is NOT allowed to enter the SELECTION decision-making process......

Come on, now....take your medication!

[Ralph Turner]

I think that there are so many Pool C bids that are so evenly matched by the criteria, that avoiding a plane flight might impact the factors in Pool C.

Ralph, of all people, you should know that geography is NOT allowed to enter the SELECTION decision-making process......

Come on, now....take your medication!

Oh yeah...      

Thanks for reminding me, Bob!  



For the newbies to the board,

we will have a better understanding of UMHB's Pool C chances when the first regional rankings come out next Wednesday, after next week's games.

[Ralph Turner]

Week #8 Fan Poll

Ranking/Team	Votes	Ballots
1)  Wesley (5)	50	1,1,1,1,1
2)  Miss College	42	2,2,3,3,3
3)  W&J	41	2,2,2,4,4,
4)  UMHB	34	3,3,4,4,5
5)  Hampden-Sydney	29	4,5,5,5,7,
6)  Thomas More	26	5,6,6,6,6
7)  DePauw	19	7,7,7,7,8
8 ) Huntingdon	16	6,8,8,8,9
9)  Dickinson	10	8,9,9,9,10
10) NC Wesleyan	4	9,10,10,x,x
*	*	*
RV  Millsaps	1	10,x,x,x,x
RV  F&M	1	10,x,x,x,x

Big game in the South on Saturday is Thomas More at W&J.

[Ron Boerger]

Initial South regional rankings are out:

South Region
1. Wesley 3-0 7-0
2. Mississippi College 6-0 6-1
3. Washington and Jefferson 7-0 7-0
4. Hampden-Sydney 8-0 8-0
5. Mary Hardin-Baylor 4-1 6-1
6. Thomas More 7-0 7-0
7. Centre 6-1 6-1
8. Huntingdon 3-0 6-1
9. Dickinson 6-1 6-1
10. DePauw 5-1 5-1

[Hawks88]

Apparently they aren't counting Greenville and Westminster as region games for Huntingdon. I can buy that, I guess. Just wondering how we are behind Centre either way. We have better OWP & OOWP plus better results against a common opponent(Millsaps).

[Ron Boerger]

Apparently they aren't counting Greenville and Westminster as region games for Huntingdon. I can buy that, I guess. Just wondering how we are behind Centre either way. We have better OWP & OOWP plus better results against a common opponent(Millsaps).

Pat sent this to the NCAA, which should get Huntingdon up there some, at least bump them up over Centre.

Huntingdon informed us that they had been granted a waiver to count SLIAC opponents as in-region after the conference broke up this spring. If that's the case, then Huntingdon should be 5-0 in-region (Westminster, Greenville).

[Hawks88]

Apparently they aren't counting Greenville and Westminster as region games for Huntingdon. I can buy that, I guess. Just wondering how we are behind Centre either way. We have better OWP & OOWP plus better results against a common opponent(Millsaps).

Pat sent this to the NCAA, which should get Huntingdon up there some, at least bump them up over Centre.

Huntingdon informed us that they had been granted a waiver to count SLIAC opponents as in-region after the conference broke up this spring. If that's the case, then Huntingdon should be 5-0 in-region (Westminster, Greenville).

Just saw Pat's note on the Daily Dose about that. Thanks for the clarification, Pat and Ron.

[Ralph Turner]

Week #8 Fan Poll

Ranking/Team	Votes	Ballots
1)  Wesley (5)	50	1,1,1,1,1
2)  Miss College	42	2,2,3,3,3
3)  W&J	41	2,2,2,4,4,
4)  UMHB	34	3,3,4,4,5
5)  Hampden-Sydney	29	4,5,5,5,7,
6)  Thomas More	26	5,6,6,6,6
7)  DePauw	19	7,7,7,7,8
8 ) Huntingdon	16	6,8,8,8,9
9)  Dickinson	10	8,9,9,9,10
10) NC Wesleyan	4	9,10,10,x,x
*	*	*
RV  Millsaps	1	10,x,x,x,x
RV  F&M	1	10,x,x,x,x

Initial South regional rankings are out:

South Region
1. Wesley 3-0 7-0
2. Mississippi College 6-0 6-1
3. Washington and Jefferson 7-0 7-0
4. Hampden-Sydney 8-0 8-0
5. Mary Hardin-Baylor 4-1 6-1
6. Thomas More 7-0 7-0
7. Centre 6-1 6-1
8. Huntingdon 3-0 6-1
9. Dickinson 6-1 6-1
10. DePauw 5-1 5-1

The only big discrepancy in the two lists is DePauw/Centre.

The Regional Rankings have what Centre did to Depauw.  The voters think that Centre is vulnerable, and DePauw may have more "up-side".