FB: Region 3 fan poll

[Ralph Turner]

Centre is 1-1 versus regionally ranked teams.

That is where they are on table.  Let's see what happens this week.

W&L could have helped Centre and themselves today!

[Ralph Turner]

1st Regional rankings

SOUTH
1 Mary Hardin-Baylor 7-0 8-0   Beat SRSU
2 Johns Hopkins 7-0 8-0     Beat F&M
3 Wesley 4-1 7-1             Beat Apprentice
4 Trinity (Texas) 8-0 8-0  Beat Centre
5 McMurry 5-1 6-2          Beat LaCollege
6 Centre 7-0 7-0              Lost to Trinity
7 Louisiana College 6-1 7-1  Lost to McMurry
8 Thomas More 8-0 8-0            Lost to Waynesburg
9 Hampden-Sydney 7-1 7-1          Beat W&L
10 Washington and Lee 8-1 8-1     Lost to H-SC

[jknezek]

W&L could have helped Centre and themselves today!

yeah. I have a similar post on the ODAC boards but with a bit more detail concerning H-SC, W&L and Centre. W&L losing might kill Centre's chances. Such is life in Pool C. W&L at H-SC had an incredible second half. The first half it looked like a H-SC blowout. W&L had 7 drives in the second half and every one resulted in a TD. Shame they dug themselves an impossible hole in the first half. H-SC looked good. I think with the right matchup in round 1 (anyone but Wesley or UMHB) they will be competitive.

[HSC85]

W&L did not score on 7 drives in the second half.  Only 5 touchdowns total.

[jknezek]

W&L did not score on 7 drives in the second half.  Only 5 touchdowns total.

Too funny. yes, 5 consecutive TD drives each netting 7 points. Not 7 drives each netting 5 points. Hmm. Good catch! Heck of a second half and congrats to your Tigers. They put together two very good halves of football and deserved that game.

+K on the catch!

[Ralph Turner]

Week #10

1)  UMHB             5               50       1,1,1,1,1
2)  Wesley                            45       2,2,2,2,2
3)  JHU                                 37       3,3,3,4,5
4)  McMurry                           36      3,3,4,4,5
5)  Trinity                              32      4,4,5,5,5

6)  Centre                             22      6,6,7,7,7
7)  Thomas More                   20      6,6,7,8,8
8)  Hampden-Sydney             10      7,8,10,10,10
9)  Louisiana College                9      6,8,10,x,x
10) BSC                                 7      8,9,9,x,x

RV)  Huntingdon                     5      9,9,10,x,x
RV)  Wash & Lee                     2      9,x,x,x,x


Please notify me of corrections.  Thanks to my balloteers.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Just sent Ralph my final regular season poll. As I told him in the PM, I think the top 7 teams are "obvious" ... the order of them is what is debatable.

I will be interested in what the other voters think of the "bottom 3".

The south region playoff bracket (assuming most, if not all, the teams are south region teams) will be very interesting.

[Ralph Turner]

At the end of the season, I think that Hardin Simmons is a strong 3rd best team in the ASC and might be the 5th best team in the South.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

At the end of the season, I think that Hardin Simmons is a strong 3rd best team in the ASC and might be the 5th best team in the South.

I wouldn't be so quick in crowning Hardin-Simmons the 3rd best team in the ASC. I know they beat LC, but that game was a lot closer than the final score. Ugly 8-turnover game, with LC outgaining the Cowboys in Abilene. Also, LC beat two teams that Hardin-Simmons lost to (MC and ETB).

I say this knowing you've probably seen LC and Hardin-Simmons in person, which I haven't. But 5th-best in the region? Ehh...

[Ralph Turner]

At the end of the season, I think that Hardin Simmons is a strong 3rd best team in the ASC and might be the 5th best team in the South.

I wouldn't be so quick in crowning Hardin-Simmons the 3rd best team in the ASC. I know they beat LC, but that game was a lot closer than the final score. Ugly 8-turnover game, with LC outgaining the Cowboys in Abilene. Also, LC beat two teams that Hardin-Simmons lost to (MC and ETB).

I say this knowing you've probably seen LC and Hardin-Simmons in person, which I haven't. But 5th-best in the region? Ehh...

My assessment is solely at the end of the season...

JHU has had 2 weak games in a row.

Trinity was unusual today. Ron Boerger thinks that they do not have enough team speed.

I have a hard time with anyone in the eastern half of the bracket, save Centre who had the mis-fortune to catch TU in SAT.

Trinity lost 3 games at home in 2010, Azusa Pacific in 2009, and Millsaps in 2008.  The previous loss at Stevens was to Stagg champion Pac Lutheran in the 1999 semis.  Trinity is hard to beat at home!

NO Trinity trash talk from me.

[Ralph Turner]

I still am waiting for a couple of ballots for the final Poll.

Thanks for you patience

[Ralph Turner]

Those final ballots did not come in.

I will be posting the first Fan Poll on the Thursday before opening Saturday.

[Ralph Turner]

Sorry about the delay in getting the pre-season poll posted.  (Busy days at work, and a job is a good thing to have.)

I will try to get it up on Saturday during the games.

[Ralph Turner]

Pre-season Poll

1)	Wesley	50 pts	1,1,1,1,1
2)	UMHB	45	2,2,2,2,2
3)	Trinity	39	3,3,3,3,4
4)	H-SU	32	3,4,4,6,6
5)	Thomas More	25	4,6,6,6,8
*	*	*	*
6)	B-SC	22	5,5,7,8,8
7)	H-SC	14	5,7,9,9,x
8T)	LaColl	13	5,7,8,x,x
8T)	Huntingdon	13	4,8,9,10,x
10)	JHU	11	5,7,10,x,x
*	*	*	*
RV	Centre	7	7,9,10,x,x
RV	CNU	3	9,10,x,x,x
RV	W&J	1	10,x,x,x,x
*	*	*	*

Thanks to Jknezek, PA_Wesleyan, roocru and Toby Taff for their participation. The initial round of ballots have a good general perspective and distribution of votes.  These gentlemen seem to have cast ballots in the hopes of "getting it right".

Please remember that DePauw is now North Region and NCAC, and Salisbury is East Region and Empire 8.

[Ralph Turner]

Week #1  (The delay in my posting is because a couple of voters had conflicts with the day-job.)

1) Wesley (5)	50	1,1,1,1,1
2) UMHB	45	2,2,2,2,2
3) Trinity	39	3,3,3,3,4
4)  B-SC	31	4,4,5,5,6
5T)  JHU	21	4,6,6,7,X
5T)  LaCollege	21	5,6,7,7,X
7) Thomas More	20	4,5,7,9,10
8)  Huntingdon	18	5,7,8,8,9
9)  Centre	14	3,8,10,10,10
10)  Hampden-Sydney	13	6,8,8,9,X
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RV)  Hardin-Simmons	4	9,9,X,X,X
RV  W&J	1	10,X,X,X,X

( There were some "different" ballots, but I did not see evidence of "homerism".)