FB: Region 3 fan poll

[D3MAFAN]

The same definitely holds true for the USA South, most years....if Huntingdon should win the conference, CNU might have an outside shot at a Pool C bid IF they can win out and Salisbury and H-SC continue to win.

I agree, I was looking at some other projects in the other sections and I think that if both H-SC and Salisbury wins their respective conferences, CNU IMHO would be a no brainer as Pool C candidate. As far as the south region fan poll, I think that CNU should still be in the 4-7 range even with a loss.

[Swish3]

Thanks for posting your opinion and the support, D3MAFAN!

[Ralph Turner]

CNU is on my radar, but the Sea Gulls will have South Region cred for me when they run the E8.  The Salisbury losses to CNU and Wesley are a nice gauge, but I cannot ignore the very ugly CNU loss to Methodist.

CNU can get the Pool C bid especially if HSC and Salisbury earn Pool A bids.  (Not because they have earned Pool A bids, but I think that the ODAC winner and the E8 winner will show up in the Regionally Ranked teams which are criteria.)  We have a bunch of shaking out to do in the poll.  Several of the teams have floated up to very precarious rankings.  Whether they have had their "ugly" game, like we saw in the CNU-Methodist, remains to be seen for those teams.

The overall impression of the USA South is not that high in the South Region.  They are just much stronger with Huntingdon and LaGrange.

Former McMurry OC Matt Mumme can take very talented specialty players, of which there are a boat-load across the south and win a bunch of games until they run up against the teams with massive size and adequate first team pass defenders as we see beginning in the last 3 weeks of the season.

[jknezek]

I still have CNU at 9 and HSC at 10. I don't see any reason to put CNU over HSC yet. The win over Bridgewater would have been more impressive if the Eagles hadn't choked the week before. As for CNU, they still own two good wins, and one very unimpressive loss. That's enough to keep them ranked, but not ahead of teams that have a decent or good win and no unimpressive losses.

As usual, there are a lot of teams for the last few spots. I expect to see some of those 5T and down teams start to pick up losses from here on out. Who and how they lose will keep it interesting.

[PA_wesleyfan]

CNU and Huntingdon don't play each other. I wonder how that stacks up with the committee . Maryville could be thw wildcard in all this

[Ralph Turner]

Great games today to help with the South Region Fan Poll.

Salisbury has a great win in the Empire 8, 42-35 over St John Fisher.  Salisbury controls its destiny for the E8 Pool A bid.  This helps all of the South, especially Wesley and CNU.

Juniata 28, Ursinus 7.  That helps clarify that issue.

UMHB-LC is just starting.

Hampden-Sydney is leading E&H 19-12 at the half.

Millsaps and BSC are tied at 7 just before the half.

[Ralph Turner]

Week #7

Team	Points	Ballots	Conference	Key games
1)   UMHB	50	1,1,1,1,1	ASC	*
2)   JHU	45	2,2,2,2,2	Centennial	Ursinus 11/02
3)   Millsaps	33	3,3,4,5,7	Southern AA	Centre 11/09; at Rhodes 11/16
4)   Wesley	32	3,5,5,5,5	Independent	*
5)   Texas Lutheran	30	3,4,4,6,8	SCAC	LaCollege 11/02
.	.	.
6)   Hampden-Sydney	21	4,6,7,8,9	ODAC	at Randy Mac 11/16
7)   LaCollege	15	4,8,9,9,10	ASC	at TLU  11/02
8)   Maryville TN	13	6,7,9,9,x	USA South AC	at Huntingdon 11/16
9)    Randy Mac	12	3,8,10,x,x	ODAC	at Bridgewater 11/09, H-SC  11/16
10)  Thomas More	10	6,7,10,x,x	Pres AC	Must win out and have Waynesburg to win out
.	.	.
RV Wash U St L	8	6,8,x,x,x	UAA	11/16 U Chicago
RV  Rhodes	5	7,10,x,x,x	SAA	10/26 Centre; 11/16 Millsaps
RV  LaGrange	1	10,x,x,x,x	USA South	11/2 CNU

Corrections appreciated.

[Ralph Turner]

The LaCollege vote at #4 is mine, because, from what I saw on the webcast, there is no other team below the top 3 who could stay within 2 TD's of UMHB at the CRUthedral.

I watched McMurry adapt to the Mumme offense.  Hal's son, Matt, is now OC at LaGrange and LaGrange is catching onto the offense.  My #10 vote for them is "betting on the come" that they run the table.

[Scots13]

Talk about disparity..Macon gets a 3rd place vote on one ballot, 8th and 10th on two more, then 2 others without the Jackets. Wow.

I think the TLU/LaCollege game is going to be a "told you so" game. I've read comments on the Boards and on d3football that TLU has a cake schedule and left the ASC just to avoid playing UMHB. I don't have a dog in the fight so I really don't care if that's the case. Fact is TLU is 6-0. I'm just wanting to check that game out. It'll be a good one.

Another thing with LaCollege, minus a last minute drive early in the season with Huntingdon and the Cats could very well be the 3-4th place team in this poll.

But looky here..Maryville's making some noise. FINALLY. It's been a long time coming in the Foothills. Hopefully we keep rolling. We had 4 votes this week in the Top 25. It's Christmas in October for the Scots.

[jknezek]

I'm the Washington U vote at 6. Kind of surprised they aren't getting more love. They have some good wins over Rhodes and Centre and the losses are understandable. Both are road losses and by 10 pts to undefeated UWW and 1 loss, formerly top 25, Coe.

I have TLU at 4 even though I'd rather not. They have played a soft schedule but there is some meat coming up to see if they belong. La Col didn't impress me all that much in the Huntingdon game. As for the loss to UMHB, UMHB has been less dominating the last few weeks in general. The zenith of the season, so far, was the win over Wesley. Since then I feel like they have been coasting, and they coasted over LC. I have them ranked, but I just can't have them at 2 losses in the top 5. Would much rather have Wash U there. LC hasn't exactly beaten anyone worth mentioning and they have lost to the only two good teams they've played.

Maryville just missed out for me. They just don't have much of a signature win since CNU is showing how fluky those early season wins were, a point I made earlier, and there is still a loss to a not very good E&H squad to contend with. Looking at the teams in the Top 10 and MC has the worst loss of the bunch (except maybe HSC, although I don't think CNU is worse than E&H).

I also don't have TMC ranked, preferring Rhodes. That's mainly because I prefer Wash U to W&J, and Rhodes loss to Wash U is much better than TMC's blowout by W&J. This weekend's Centre at Rhodes will help immensely with both those 4-1 teams with a common opponent loss.

Things that stand out? RMC at 3. They squeaked past W&L. 6 point win, with the Generals driving for the win before fumbling late in the 4th. They just weren't that good and the home beatdown by the number 2 team shows a quality gulf I can't cross. LC at 4 seems very odd to me as well. And finally, my own vote for Wash U at 6 stands out.

[Ralph Turner]

Jk, instead of designating my vote in the tabulation with an "x", I was tempted to type a "w", for "watch list".

Holding Hendrix 1-yd shy of the goaline on the last play was just enough to keep the Bears off the list for this week.

[Swish3]

Those early season wins by CNU were no fluke....they're a solid team that's struggling right now, and listening to the head coach, it's primarily because a top assistant began to suffer from a severe illness after the first 2 or 3 games and, ultimately, passed away a week ago Monday.  His loss has impacted the team in a major way; more than any of us on the outside can understand....given the circumstances, I had to take a step back and stop being so critical of my own team, as I was trying to figure out what had gone wrong.  As I mentioned, listening to the head coach after the Maryville game gave me a sense of what they're going through, which I hadn't realized until that moment....we're all entitled to our opinions, and maybe I'm in the minority, but I truly believe CNU is better than the way they've played the past three games.  Hopefully, they can stop the bleeding and finish strong....

[jknezek]

That is always a tragedy and a shame. I feel for the Captains program and wish them the best going forward.

[Ralph Turner]

Those early season wins by CNU were no fluke....they're a solid team that's struggling right now, and listening to the head coach, it's primarily because a top assistant began to suffer from a severe illness after the first 2 or 3 games and ,ultimately, passed away a week ago Monday.  His loss has impacted the team in a major way; more than any of us on the outside can understand....given the circumstances, I had to take a step back and stop being so critical of my own team, as I was trying to figure out what had gone wrong.  As I mentioned, listening to the head coach after the Maryville game gave me a sense of what they're going through, which I hadn't realized until that moment....we're all entitled to our opinions, and maybe I'm in the minority, but I truly believe CNU is better than the way they've played the past three games.  Hopefully, they can stop the bleeding and finish strong....

That was the case with McMurry back in the early 2000's. We lost our defensive coordinator to colon cancer in a very slow and agonizing fashion.  That began the downward spiral that finally was corrected by Coach Mumme.  (The head coach who lost his assistant?  Starting Houston Texas QB Case Keenum's father.)

[Just A Guy]

I did some checking, and please correct me if I am incorrect:

1) UMHB          6-0  sos = 43
2) JHU             6-0  sos = 90
3) Millsaps      6-0  sos = 34
4) Wesley       5-2  sos = 2
5) Tex Luth     5-0  sos = 219
6) Ham Syd     5-1  sos = 77
7) LaColl          4-2  sos = 81
8) Maryville      6-1  sos = 119
9) Randy Mac   5-1  sos = 22
10) Th Moore   5-1  sos = 110

Wash U            4-2  sos = 6
Rhodes             5-1  sos = 144
Lagrange          3-3  sos = 91

CENTRE             5-1   sos = 61

As I stated above if I have a mistake I do apologize.  I cannot understand why Centre is not receiving any votes. I am not sure what guidelines are used by the voters but based on overall record and strength of schedule I believe Centre has earned some votes.  They have been mentioned as "key games" so I can tell they are on the map.