FB: Region 3 fan poll

[hasanova]

Having a Top 10 for only 60 South Region teams is almost a blatant as having a Top 25 for Division 1 FBS!     (Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?)

The CC winner will stay in the Top 10. Salsibury will make a good case.

Finding the rest of the Top 10 is getting hard as teams pile up losses.

McMurry was on my radar for the 10th spot this week as well.

[Ralph Turner]

Having a Top 10 for only 60 South Region teams is almost a blatant as having a Top 25 for Division 1 FBS!     (Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?)

The CC winner will stay in the Top 10. Salsibury will make a good case.

Finding the rest of the Top 10 is getting hard as teams pile up losses.

McMurry was on my radar for the 10th spot this week as well.

I have refrained from voting for McMurry because of their loss to ETBU.  (I saw ETBU "blow it" against Redlands.  ETBU is almost schizophrenic. They hold McMurry and take UMHB to OT and then don't show up for the TLU game.)

That ETBU played UMHB that closely did not surprise me.

[PA_wesleyfan]

  Some of the conference match ups are making the picks interesting for the last spots.  The USAC could give us a three or even a four loss team in the South playoffs. There could be a few more 2 loss teams in the poll over the next few weeks

[Bob.Gregg]

OFF TOPIC QUESTION:

I remember a website where you could plug in two teams names and the site would calculate how many degrees of separation....

For instance:  Mt. Union, Ohio State.

Mt union beat A
A beat B
B beat C
C beat D
D beat E
E beat Ohio State....

therefore Mt. Union is better than Ohio State.

Anybody know where I can find that again...

[Ralph Turner]

http://www.cfbanalyzer.com/

Try this.  Some sports linked are blocked at my work.

[Ralph Turner]

Week #8

Rank	Team	(#1's)	Points	Votes	October 30th opponents
1)	Wesley (ACFC)	(5)	50	(1,1,1,1,1)	at Salisbury
2)	UMHB (ASC)		44	(2,2,2,2,3)	HPU
3)	TMC   (Pres AC)		38	(2,3,3,4,5)	Westminster PA
4)	Hardin-Simmons   (ASC)		37	(3,3,4,4,4)	McMurry
5)	Hampden-Sydney (ODAC)		31	(4,5,5,5,5)	Guilford
6)	DPU   (SCAC)		23	(6,6,6,7,7)	Birmingham-Southern
7)	Ursinus (CC)		22	(6,6,7,7,7)	at Moravian
8)	Salisbury  (ACFC)		15	(8,8,8,8,8)	Wesley
9)	RMC  (ODAC)		8	(9,9,9,9,-)	Open
10T)	Muhlenburg (CC)		2	(9,-,-,-,-	at Dickinson
10T)	Washington & Lee (ODAC)		2	10,10,-,-,-	at Catholic 10/29
*	*	*	*	*
RV)	Averett (USAC)		1	10,-,-,-,-	at Shenandoah
RV)	F&M (CC)		1	10,-,-,-,-	McDaniel
RV)	Wash & Jeff (PresAC)		1	(10,-,-,-,-)	Grove City

Corrections appreciated.  


Thanks to Bob Gregg and hasanova for proofreading!  Keyboard dyslexics of the world untie!  
Thanks to Conrad!

[@d3jason]

I think UMHB plays HPU this weekend, though I'm sure that ETBU would like another shot them.

[roocru]

Although definitely not in the same order (yet?), the first nine teams in our South Region Poll are the same as the first  nine in the regional rankings.  I take that as a good sign! 

[Ralph Turner]

Week #9

Rank	Team	(#1's)	Points	Votes	Noivember 6th opponents
1)	Wesley (ACFC)	(5)	50	(1,1,1,1,1)	open date
2)	UMHB (ASC)		45	(2,2,2,2,2)	at SRSU
3T)	TMC   (Pres AC)		37	(3,3,3,4,5)	at Waynesboro
3T)	Hardin-Simmons   (ASC)		37	(3,3,4,4,4)	Open date
5)	Hampden-Sydney (ODAC)		31	(4,5,5,5,5)	at Wash & Lee
6)	DPU   (SCAC)		25	(6,6,6,6,6)	Austin
7)	Salisbury  (ACFC)		16	(7,7,8,8,9)	Open Date
8)	RMC  (ODAC)		13	(7,8,8,8,-)	Bridgewater
9)	Muhlenburg (CC)		10	(7,9,9,9,-)	Ursinus
10)	Ursinus (CC)		8	(7,9,10,10,-)	at Muhlenberg
*	*	*	*	*	*
RV)	Washington & Lee (ODAC)		2	(10,10,-,-,-)	Hampden-Sydney
RV)	Wash & Jeff (PresAC)		1	(10,-,-,-,-)	at Thiel

Corrections appreciated.  

[DPU3619]

Starting to get a little confused here in the middle of the poll, aren't we?  Little disagreement about where 3/4/5 sit.  I also penalized Salisbury slightly for a close loss, but I see some did not.  In fact, some moved the Gulls up.  Interesting.

[Ralph Turner]

Week #9

Rank	Team	(#1's)	Points	Votes	November 6th opponents
1)	Wesley (ACFC)	(5)	50	(1,1,1,1,1)	open date
2)	UMHB (ASC)		45	(2,2,2,2,2)	UMHB 76, at SRSU 12
3T)	TMC   (Pres AC)		37	(3,3,3,4,5)	TMC 14, at Waynesboro 10
3T)	Hardin-Simmons   (ASC)		37	(3,3,4,4,4)	Open date
5)	Hampden-Sydney (ODAC)		31	(4,5,5,5,5)	at Wash & Lee 38, HSC 27
6)	DPU   (SCAC)		25	(6,6,6,6,6)	DPU 30, Austin 20
7)	Salisbury  (ACFC)		16	(7,7,8,8,9)	Open Date
8)	RMC  (ODAC)		13	(7,8,8,8,-)	Bridgewater 31, RMC 26
9)	Muhlenburg (CC)		10	(7,9,9,9,-)	Muhlenberg 27, Ursinus 20
10)	Ursinus (CC)		8	(7,9,10,10,-)	at Muhlenberg 27, Ursinus 20
*	*	*	*	*	*
RV)	Washington & Lee (ODAC)		2	(10,10,-,-,-)	W&L 38, Hampden-Sydney 27
RV)	Wash & Jeff (PresAC)		1	(10,-,-,-,-)	W&J 47, at Thiel 14

Corrections appreciated.  

[wesleydad]

Ralph, is the way things are shaking out in the south almost guarenteeing a umhb - hardin simmons first round game.  is anyone close enough to not have that happen.  if not, someone is going to get an undeserved much easier first round game.  does the south have 8 teams or will someone get shipped in?  with case losing, does that give salisbury a better shot at getting in?  sorry for all the questions, but you are one of the most knowledgable posters about these things.

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph, is the way things are shaking out in the south almost guarenteeing a umhb - hardin simmons first round game?

Yes.  
Does a #2 versus #5 count as a Bracketgate game?  I think so, because HSU is my #3 team in the South Region.

Is anyone close enough to not have that happen?  If not, someone is going to get an undeserved much easier first round game.  Everyone else will have to fly in.

Does the south have 8 teams or will someone get shipped in?

Wesley, W&L, Muhlenberg, probably CNU, DPU, Thomas More, UMHB and HSU.  That is 8.  A Salisbury's win over  Wesley would probably earn a Pool B bid, IMHO.

With Case losing, does that give Salisbury a better shot at getting in?  I think so.

[wesleydad]

thanks ralph, looks like wesley would get muhlenburg or cnu in the first round if those are the 8 that get in.

[roocru]

Ralph, is the way things are shaking out in the south almost guarenteeing a umhb - hardin simmons first round game?

Yes.  
Does a #2 versus #5 count as a Bracketgate game?  I think so, because HSU is my #3 team in the South Region.

Is anyone close enough to not have that happen?  If not, someone is going to get an undeserved much easier first round game.  Everyone else will have to fly in.

Does the south have 8 teams or will someone get shipped in?

Wesley, W&L, Muhlenberg, probably CNU, DPU, Thomas More, UMHB and HSU.  That is 8.  A Salisbury's win over  Wesley would probably earn a Pool B bid, IMHO.

With Case losing, does that give Salisbury a better shot at getting in?  I think so.

And once again the playoff results of the ASC will take a hit!  This type of game makes it almost impossible for the ACS to move up very far in the Ranking of conferences by playoff results. (See question 9 on the FAQ page for current rankings)  Since we almost always start off with one win and one loss it makes it tough to move up.  Most other conferences, like the OAC for example, almost always get several games in before they have to play each other again.

Even if either UMHB or HSU win the Stagg bowl, their conference winning record would only rise from .556 to .595 and they would probably remain in 6th or 7th place in these rankings.  I personally feel that our conference is much stronger that it is given credit for in these rankings but it will never be shown because of "Bracketgate" games!