FB: Region 3 fan poll

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Ralph Turner

After all of the discussion, we have Chicago in the South and Wesley in the East.

Week #4.

1)  UMHB                        50   1,1,1,1,1
2)  Thomas More              42   2,2,3,3,3
3)  JHU                            41   2,2,3,3,4
4)  W&J                           36    2,4,4,4,5
5)  HSU                            30   4,5,5,5,6

6)  Guilford                       22  5,6,6,8,8
7)  TLU                             18  6,6,8,8,9
8)  Chicago                       15  7,7,7,8,x
9)  Maryville                      12  7,7,9,10,10
10T) Hampden-Sydney        4   9,9,x,x,x
10T)  F&M                           4  9,10,10,x,x

RV)  Centre                         1   10,x,x,x,x

Corrections are always appreciated.

ExTartanPlayer

Big game in the South this week (and a team that should probably be on this ballot that I'd basically just forgotten about): Trinity vs Hardin-Simmons.  Serious playoff-chances-implications on both sides.
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Ron Boerger

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 02, 2015, 06:29:13 AM
Big game in the South this week (and a team that should probably be on this ballot that I'd basically just forgotten about): Trinity vs Hardin-Simmons.  Serious playoff-chances-implications on both sides.

Certainly understandable - it's been several years since they've been a factor on the regional scene.   HSU is by far Trinity's toughest opponent this season, and should the Tigers get by them tomorrow, would definitely be worthy of consideration for the SR top ten.    Trinity lost their starting QB for the season in the opener; his replacement has done a good job leading the offense, but the key has been a huge turnaround in net turnovers.   The defense has done a good job getting the ball back to blunt drives, and they'll need that and more against HSU's prolific (> 500 yds/game) offense.

jknezek

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 02, 2015, 06:29:13 AM
Big game in the South this week (and a team that should probably be on this ballot that I'd basically just forgotten about): Trinity vs Hardin-Simmons.  Serious playoff-chances-implications on both sides.

I've been head faked by Trinity more than a few times in the last few years. They have this game and TLU to prove they belong. So far they have beaten teams that have gone 1-7. Heck W&L has beaten 3 really bad opponents more soundly than Trinity has, and no one in their right mind should be considering the Generals until after they play Guilford this weekend. So yeah, Trinity and a host of other teams have a lot to show this weekend if they want to enter the picture...

ADL70

Isn't CWRU with only a one point loss (missed PAT) to Chicago more deserving of a vote than Centre?
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jknezek

Quote from: ADL70 on October 02, 2015, 10:35:13 AM
Isn't CWRU with only a one point loss (missed PAT) to Chicago more deserving of a vote than Centre?

Probably. But you are talking one voter dropping a 10 on Centre. These things happen to teams that start ranked as opposed to those we weren't even sure were supposed to be considered in region. For the record, I'm not the 10 on Centre but I'm also not super interested in Case yet. One good loss isn't the same as no good wins.

Case keeps winning in the PAC though and they'll get their recognition.

ADL70

I wasn't saying they deserved a vote, just more so than Centre.  I too would withhold judgement on CWRU at least until Saturday's game at Bethany.
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Scots13

Jk--Any insight on Chicago?
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jknezek

Quote from: Scots13 on October 03, 2015, 08:47:13 PM
Jk--Any insight on Chicago?

I put some thoughts in the SAA page. They are good. Very solid even if there is nothing jaw dropping. They struggled to finish off BSC but they always looked in control. QB is big and strong. Good arm but it looks like he got dinged up early in second half. Spent a lot of time shaking out his arm in between plays and went from zipping the ball on deep routes to some floaters and that cost them the chance to wrap up early. They like to go long a lot and they have an oline that can hold off the pressure. QB also has enough wheels to spot gaps. Defense looked good. Nothing ridiculous, but very solid in all facets. Got beat on the corners a couple times but BSC has a pair of really fast receivers and cause trouble when they can get the ball to them. Chicago has a very good shot at sweeping the SAA, though Berry is looking really good also. I had Chicago around 7 last week, think they'll probably stay there or maybe shift up a bit. Too much known traffic ahead of them to push too far. Centre losing to Hendrix hurts as well.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 02, 2015, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 02, 2015, 06:29:13 AM
Big game in the South this week (and a team that should probably be on this ballot that I'd basically just forgotten about): Trinity vs Hardin-Simmons.  Serious playoff-chances-implications on both sides.

Certainly understandable - it's been several years since they've been a factor on the regional scene.   HSU is by far Trinity's toughest opponent this season, and should the Tigers get by them tomorrow, would definitely be worthy of consideration for the SR top ten.    Trinity lost their starting QB for the season in the opener; his replacement has done a good job leading the offense, but the key has been a huge turnaround in net turnovers.   The defense has done a good job getting the ball back to blunt drives, and they'll need that and more against HSU's prolific (> 500 yds/game) offense.

TU lost the turnover battle with an absolute momentum-killing tipped pass getting returned for an INT shortly before the half, and defensive stops were very hard to come by in the first half.   Too many mistakes and too ineffective passing the ball to get by a very good team like HSU.

Toby Taff

http://www.chron.com/sports/college-football/article/Hardin-Simmons-made-bowl-season-history-in-48-1617904.php
This is a link about HSUs 1948 bowl season. They played 3 bowl games. First band last time in NCAA history.
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Ralph Turner

#1061
Week #5

1)   UMHB      50    (1,1,1,1,1)
2)  TMC          44    (2,2,2,2,3)
3)   JHU          41    (2,3,3,3,3)
4    HSU          35    (4,4,4,4,4)
5)   W&J          27    (5,5,5,6,7)

6)  TLU           24     (5,5,6,7,8)
7)  Chicago     23     (6,6,6,7,7)
8)   Maryville   13      (7,8,8,9,10)
9)  HS-C         10      (8,8,9,10,10)
10) W&L           5       (9,9,10,X,X)

RV)  Guilford    2     (9,x,x,x,x)
RV)  Berry        1      (10,x,x,x,x)

Corrections are appreciated.

Scots13

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 06, 2015, 09:52:01 PM
Week #5

1)   UMHB      50    (1,1,1,1,1)
2)  TMC          44    (2,2,2,2,3)
3)   JHU          41    (2,3,3,3,3)
4    HSU          35    (4,4,4,4,4)
5)   W&J          27    (5,5,5,6,7)

6)  TLU           24     (5,5,6,7,8)
7)  Chicago     23     (6,6,6,7,7)
8)   Maryville   13      (7,8,8,9,10)
9)  HS-C         10      (8,8,9,10,10)
10) W&L           5       (9,9,10,X,X)

RV)  Guilford    2     (9,x,x,x,x)
RV)  Berry        1      (10,x,x,x,x)

Corrections are appreciated.

Berry getting a 10 spot-vote. We'll find out Saturday what they're all about. I still think the Week 1 showing was not the Berry Vikings we'd see in 2015. Tons of talent.
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jknezek

Quote from: Scots13 on October 07, 2015, 08:19:25 AM
Berry getting a 10 spot-vote. We'll find out Saturday what they're all about. I still think the Week 1 showing was not the Berry Vikings we'd see in 2015. Tons of talent.

That's me on Berry. I couldn't figure out what to do with the 10 spot. Figure W&L has a chance to earn it this weekend, but wasn't willing to give it up just yet. Both W&L and Guilford played too many cupcakes. While we all assume Guilford is good, therefore W&L should be, the only decent game the two have played is each other...

Ralph Turner

#1064
Nine out of the Top 10 teams are solid.  We have some big conference games coming that will disrupt the consensus of the lower half of the Top 10.

It usually does this every year. We get some agreement on several teams, with as few as 11 or 12 receiving votes and then the different opinions bring in more #9's and #10's as late season conference matchups sort out the quality teams from that big group of "almost/shoulda/woulda/coulda's".

"Lurkers" for the #10 include Gettysburg, Case Western Reserve, Huntingdon, Centre and F&M.