FB: Region 3 fan poll

[jknezek]

Just out of curiosity, someone has Guilford at 9. I think the only way that works is if you have H-SC at 10 and leave off W&L. Interesting given the head to head. At 3 points, and W&L at home, there is a case to be made that Guilford is W&L's equal, but to have them at 9 and W&L completely off is difficult.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Berry getting a 10 spot-vote. We'll find out Saturday what they're all about. I still think the Week 1 showing was not the Berry Vikings we'd see in 2015. Tons of talent.

That's me on Berry. I couldn't figure out what to do with the 10 spot. Figure W&L has a chance to earn it this weekend, but wasn't willing to give it up just yet. Both W&L and Guilford played too many cupcakes. While we all assume Guilford is good, therefore W&L should be, the only decent game the two have played is each other...

I also gave Berry a passing glance.  Lots of teams sitting in this "are they good or not" zone.  Guilford and W&L are also good examples.  They could be the 2 best teams in the ODAC, or they could both lose three more games by the end of the season.  We'll see.

I do think Guilford getting a #9 vote is a little curious only because  W&L's highest vote is a 9, so someone either has Guilford 9, W&L 10 or Guilford 9, W&L unranked. 

I honestly think there's a pretty long drop-off after TLU.  I am a Chicago fan as a UAA alum and think they deserve that 7 spot, but I don't know if I would really trust them to hang with the top 6 there.

I also will be keeping an eye on Case Western at the fringes of the rankings.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Just out of curiosity, someone has Guilford at 9. I think the only way that works is if you have H-SC at 10 and leave off W&L. Interesting given the head to head. At 3 points, and W&L at home, there is a case to be made that Guilford is W&L's equal, but to have them at 9 and W&L completely off is difficult.

Ha, just posted about this myself.  You beat me to it.

[jknezek]

My lurkers are W&L, Gettysburg, and Case, with Berry getting the nod. Both W&L and Berry have big games this weekend, so that should sort them out. Huntingdon I'm still struggling with. What I saw against B-SC was so mistake prone that I'm just really struggling to see them beating a competent team. As the season goes on, that will change with wins, but the tight win over NC Wes just didn't do much for me. At 1-3 I'm struggling to count La Col as a good win. So that leaves Belhaven, whose tightest game so far was at Huntingdon, not a good sign, and the loss at B-SC. Not exactly a resume that gives me much confidence.

I think the top 4 are solid. 5 and 6 (W&J and TLU) are pretty established though both took a pretty hard blow when they played teams in the upper 4. Then the last 4 are pretty fluid with 3 or 4 more that sit just outside.  Seems a pretty typical year, though losing Wesley seems to have upped the possibilities for the last two spots...

Not sure why I gave Berry the nod really. The more I think about it I probably should have gone with W&L or Gettysburg who don't have losses but have the same decent win Berry has. Oh well.... my bad.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Gettysburg, agreed, is a team that slipped my radar but probably deserves at least a watch notice...we'll find out the next two weeks.  If they can beat Muhlenberg this week, that gives them a little attention and probably a low vote from me, and if they keep it close with Hopkins the next week then I'll definitely be on board with a low vote for them. 

[Scots13]

Berry getting a 10 spot-vote. We'll find out Saturday what they're all about. I still think the Week 1 showing was not the Berry Vikings we'd see in 2015. Tons of talent.

That's me on Berry. I couldn't figure out what to do with the 10 spot. Figure W&L has a chance to earn it this weekend, but wasn't willing to give it up just yet. Both W&L and Guilford played too many cupcakes. While we all assume Guilford is good, therefore W&L should be, the only decent game the two have played is each other...

I also gave Berry a passing glance.  Lots of teams sitting in this "are they good or not" zone.  Guilford and W&L are also good examples.  They could be the 2 best teams in the ODAC, or they could both lose three more games by the end of the season.  We'll see.

I do think Guilford getting a #9 vote is a little curious only because  W&L's highest vote is a 9, so someone either has Guilford 9, W&L 10 or Guilford 9, W&L unranked. 

I honestly think there's a pretty long drop-off after TLU.  I am a Chicago fan as a UAA alum and think they deserve that 7 spot, but I don't know if I would really trust them to hang with the top 6 there.

I also will be keeping an eye on Case Western at the fringes of the rankings.

I had W&L at 9.

[jknezek]

Can't be Guilford 9, W&L 10 because the 9 other teams are all on every ballot. Had to be Guilford 9, W&L off. Interesting. I could see someone making a case. Guilford did lose their starting QB in the second quarter, played on the road, weather wasn't great, etc. I wouldn't make the argument, but I could see someone going that route.

[tigerFanAlso2]

you guys are more in the know than i but in the case of Gc vs. W&L standings in the polls, how is head to head overlooked or even discounted when neither team has played another worth a damn to date. There is nothing to suggest GC is better and/or as good as W&L at this point in the season.

[ExTartanPlayer]

you guys are more in the know than i but in the case of Gc vs. W&L standings in the polls, how is head to head overlooked or even discounted when neither team has played another worth a damn to date. There is nothing to suggest GC is better and/or as good as W&L at this point in the season.

I agree.  I'm guessing that this is a simple oversight (it's not easy to keep track of all teams outside your own league of interest).  I respect that some people have a hard time dropping a certain team too far or moving a certain team up too much (the "anchor and adjust" method) but when two undefeated teams play, one wins, that team should be ranked higher.  Full stop.

[jknezek]

you guys are more in the know than i but in the case of Gc vs. W&L standings in the polls, how is head to head overlooked or even discounted when neither team has played another worth a damn to date. There is nothing to suggest GC is better and/or as good as W&L at this point in the season.

I agree.  I'm guessing that this is a simple oversight (it's not easy to keep track of all teams outside your own league of interest).  I respect that some people have a hard time dropping a certain team too far or moving a certain team up too much (the "anchor and adjust" method) but when two undefeated teams play, one wins, that team should be ranked higher.  Full stop.

I don't know. Like I posted above, you could make a case that the game was a fluky loss. I wouldn't, but there are enough factors between the thin margin of victory, the away game, the weather, and the qb going down relatively early to say that on another day, on a neutral field, GC wins that game. If you didn't see anything of the game and just knew a few factors it's a reasonable assumption.

I prefer to use h2h as a trump card, but other people don't always go that route.

[jknezek]

Looks like Berry tops Chicago in overtime. That's a big win for a young program that is looking very solid.

[jknezek]

W&L takes down H-SC on the road 35-28. H-SC had a chance to tie it up at the end but were stuffed 4th and Goal at the 1 with 12 seconds to go. Tight game.

[jknezek]

Maryville buried by NC Wes? What the heck is happening to M'Ville the last two weeks?

[Ralph Turner]

Four Ballots are in. I need the 5th.

[Scots13]

Four Ballots are in. I need the 5th.

Sorry guys. I'm on a work travel week and swamped. I'll get it in tonight.