FB: Region 3 fan poll

[Scots13]

It isn't helping the USAC and ODAC aren't doing us any favors. ASC, PAC, and CC have multiple teams in the mix, SAA has a strong team in Berry and Centre in the loop as well. We'll have to see how Guilford fares after 2 non DIII games to really have a feel for the Quakers (and Huntingdon, too.) Davidson is 2-2, 0-2 vs. non DIII schools and Jacksonville is 3-1 overall, 1-1 FCS, 1-0 DIII, 1-0 DII.  If Guilford beats HSC then they are strong contenders in the back half of my poll. HSC is vastly improved over last season...a 14 point loss to CNU (t-7th in East Region Fan Poll and RV in Top 25) and a 10 point loss to UW-P (#9 nationally, 3rd in West Region Fan Poll).  Bridgewater and W&L hurt themselves this week. W&L has been on my radar until letting one go against E&H and I thought Bridgewater was better than they probably are after beating TMC.

[Ralph Turner]

I wavered across the bottom of the poll, too.

I am still looking for the ODAC team to rank. The USAC has not put up someone worthy of 10th place.

I am not sure about Centre yet. I do like Berry.

I could not gauge Guilford against the two non-scholarship D-1's. (Why did they play them? For the paycheck?)

[Scots13]

Discussions on the ODAC and USAC about Guilford's schedule. I think the consensus is Greensboro not wanting to play and then have one less ODAC game due to CUA leaving. They were in a pickle. But, hey. If they got a paycheck it's worth it in my book if no injuries due to the circumstance. We (MC) got 25K to play Tennessee Tech one year. No injuries and lost 56-7 (ish) to a team that played Iowa the week before and went on to win the OVC. Don't know how much ETSU paid them 2 years ago, but they got paid and won the game, too.

[Ralph Turner]

South Region Fan Poll Week #6

1)  UMHB	50	1,1,1,1,1	.	.
2)  HSU	45	2,2,2,2,2	.	.
3)  W&J	40	3,3,3,3,3	.	.
4)  CWRU	32	4,4,4,5,6	.	.
5   Berry	31	4,4,5,5,6	.	.
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6)  JHU	25	5,5,6,7,7	.	.
7)  Carnegie-Mellon	20	6,6,7,7,9	.	.
8)  ETBU	9	7,8,9,x,x	.	.
9)  Centre	8	8,8,9,x,x	.	.
10)  F&M	5	8,10,10,x,x	.	.
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RV  Westminster PA	4	8,10,x,x,x	.	.
RV  Shenandoah	2	9,x,x,x,x	.	.
RV  Ursinus	2	9,x,x,x,x	.	.
RV  Huntingdon	1	10,x,x,x,x	.	.
RV  SRSU.	1	10,x,x,x,x	.	.
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Corrections are always appreciated.
Thanks to jknezek for proofreading.  ETBU

[Ralph Turner]

South Region Fan Poll Week #7

1)  UMHB	50	1,1,1,1,1	.	.
2)  HSU	45	2,2,2,2,2	.	.
3)  W&J	39	3,3,3,3,4	.	.
4)  CWRU	35	3,4,4,4,5	.	.
5   Berry	30	4,5,5,5,6	.	.
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6)  JHU	24	5,6,6,7,7	.	.
7)  Carnegie-Mellon	22	6,6,7,7,7	.	.
8)  Centre	13	8,8,8,9,9	.	.
9)  Shenandoah	7	9,9,9,10,x	.	.
10) Huntingdon	5	8,10,10,x,x	.	.
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RV  SRSU.	3	8,x,x,x,x	.	.
RV  Westminster PA	1	10,x,x,x,x	.	.
RV  F&M	1	10,x,x,x,x	.	.
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Corrections are always appreciated.

[Ralph Turner]

South Region Fan Poll Week #8

1)  UMHB	50	1,1,1,1,1	.	.
2)  HSU	45	2,2,2,2,2	.	.
3)  W&J	39	3,3,3,3,4	.	.
4)  CWRU	32	4,4,4,5,6	.	.
5   Berry	30	4,5,5,5,6	.	.
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6)  JHU	27	3,5,6,7,7	.	.
7)  Carnegie-Mellon	22	6,6,7,7,7	.	.
8)  Centre	11	8,8,8,9,x	.	.
9)  F&M	7	8,9,10,10,x	.	.
10) Huntingdon	5	8,9,x,x,x	.	.
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RV  Westminster PA	3	9,10,x,x,x	.	.
RV  Muhlenberg	2	9,x,x,x,x	.	.
RV  TLU	1	10,x,x,x,x	.	.
RV  Wash & Lee	1	10,x,x,x,x	.	.
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Corrections are always appreciated.

Thanks to hasanova, jknezek, roocru and Scots13

[jknezek]

Kind of a quiet season for the poll this year. Other than the 3 vote for JHU, we are all pretty much in agreement with no team outside 2 spots of any votes. Yeah, we've got 4 RV and we've had 2 or 3 in the past at times, but even that is pretty close.

Anyway, I'll be interested to see the Regional Rankings next week. With once ranked always ranked long gone, it seems like the first RR usually just goes by record, and then they only seem to spend serious time on the only ranking that matters. The one we never see. I'm not a big fan of this policy. I always thought once ranked always ranked made sense, but that it should have been weighted toward the later ranking.

[albatross]

A question for the voters: the subject of SOS comes up a lot when discussing CWRU it seems (at least to me). In your minds, could Berry ever jump them in your rankings? Berry has already played the meat of their schedule, and likely can't get another "signature" win.

[jknezek]

A question for the voters: the subject of SOS comes up a lot when discussing CWRU it seems (at least to me). In your minds, could Berry ever jump them in your rankings? Berry has already played the meat of their schedule, and likely can't get another "signature" win.

Speaking as the person with Berry already in front, I think it is unlikely they will change spots so long as both win out. CWRU has the chance to get 2 good wins, Westminster and CMU, Berry really only has Trinity ahead as a quality opponent and Trinity is not up to Westminster or CMU's resume.

If CWRU gets those quality wins I'm more likely to switch them in front of Berry. With both undefeated, I go by my own strength of schedule thoughts and think Berry's schedule, so far, has been tougher. That probably won't be true by Week 11.

That being said, I don't really think it matters. Berry will most likely get an AQ and, given Huntingdon's geographic predicament, host a home game. Not guaranteed of course, as the committee could spring for an extra flight, but it seems very likely.

[Ralph Turner]

A question for the voters: the subject of SOS comes up a lot when discussing CWRU it seems (at least to me). In your minds, could Berry ever jump them in your rankings? Berry has already played the meat of their schedule, and likely can't get another "signature" win.

Speaking as the person with Berry already in front, I think it is unlikely they will change spots so long as both win out. CWRU has the chance to get 2 good wins, Westminster and CMU, Berry really only has Trinity ahead as a quality opponent and Trinity is not up to Westminster or CMU's resume.

If CWRU gets those quality wins I'm more likely to switch them in front of Berry. With both undefeated, I go by my own strength of schedule thoughts and think Berry's schedule, so far, has been tougher. That probably won't be true by Week 11.

That being said, I don't really think it matters. Berry will most likely get an AQ and, given Huntingdon's geographic predicament, host a home game. Not guaranteed of course, as the committee could spring for an extra flight, but it seems very likely.

The Fan Poll is just for fun.  Do not read too much into it.  It does give us an idea of which teams to watch, especially from about #6 on down. That is where you may find the other teams that will be regionally ranked, which helps with the rankings and the seedings.

By the criteria, I believe that Berry will be among the 4 undefeated South Region teams. That should get them a home game with Huntingdon, kind of a #4 vs #8

I am not sure that they would host a second round playoff game, but we will need to see the Regional Rankings that come out next Wednesday for a clue as to how strong the committee believes them to be.

[Ralph Turner]

South Region Fan Poll Week #9

1)  UMHB	50	1,1,1,1,1	.	.
2)  HSU	45	2,2,2,2,2	.	.
3)  W&J	38	3,3,3,3,5	.	.
4)  CWRU	32	4,4,4,5,6	.	.
5   Berry	31	4,4,5,5,6	.	.
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6)  JHU	29	3,5,6,6,6	.	.
7)  Centre	12	8,8,8,8,x	.	.
8)  Westminster PA	11	7,7,8,x,x	.	.
9)  F&M	10	7,7,10,10,x	.	.
10) Huntingdon	9	9,9,9,9,10	.	.
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RV  Wash & Lee	6	7,9,x,x,x	.	.
RV  ETBU	2	10,10,x,x,x	.	.
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Corrections are always appreciated.

Thanks to hasanova, jknezek, roocru and Scots13

[BerryCollegeFan]

Is tomorrow the day that fans get an early look at how the committee is "ranking" the playoff teams this year?

[jknezek]

Is tomorrow the day that fans get an early look at how the committee is "ranking" the playoff teams this year?

Yes. First regional rankings come out tomorrow

[Ralph Turner]

I am cutting and pasting jknezek's analysis from the SAA board to show what the South Region Committee is considering for tomorrow. (Thanks and +1!)  If jknezek were on the committee, this might be his ballot to present in the discussions.  Notice how the committee criteria are different from a Fan Poll in which the voter is imagining who would beat whom on a neutral field from one thru 10.

1) 8-0 UMHB (2-0 RRO South and West, 41 SOS) -- SOS keeps moving down
2) 9-0 Berry (2-0 RRO, 114 SOS) -- SOS has plummeted, but an extra RRO win has them looking good to host
3) 6-1 HSU (0-1 RRO, 35 SOS) -- Big SOS jump. Might jump Berry if Berry loses the RRO result
4) 8-0 W&J (1-0 RRO, 163 SOS) -- Meandering SOS doesn't help
5) 8-0 CWRU (0-0 RRO, 235 SOS) -- SOS should start moving up with last couple games, but Wash U hurts
6) 7-1 Centre (1-1 RR, 76 SOS) -- SOS held steady and picked up an RRO with Hendrix. Huge for at large chances, especially if CWRU loses one of their last 2
7) 7-1 JHU (1-0 RRO, 17 SOS) -- Big SOS gain. If W&L keeps winning, JHU's SOS will be ok. Jumped by Centre on Hendrix moving in
8) 7-1 F&M (0-1 RRO, 94 SOS) -- SOS dropped like a stone
9) 6-1 Huntingdon (0-0 RRO, 128 SOS) -- no RROs and a weak finish. Their SOS will continue to fall
10) 5-2 Hendrix (0-2 RRO, 13 SOS) -- who sees this coming? But a huge boost to Berry and Centre if they can hold position

[BerryCollegeFan]

thanks to both.  where's the complete SOS list.