FB: Region 3 fan poll

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Scots13

Want to publicly apologize for the delay this week. Sent my poll to the wrong Ralph by mistake. Sorry, fellas!
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South Region Fan Poll  Week #6






















1)  UMHB50         1,1,1,1,1..
2)  Muhlenberg442,2,2,2,3..
3)  Berry 412,3,3,3,3..
4)  Susq  324,4,4,5,6..
5)  JHU  294,5,5,6,6..
.....
6)  HSU       244,5,7,7,8..
7)  TLU  196,7,7,8,8..
8)  CWRU 185,6,7,9,10..
9)  Bridgewater   79,9,9,10,x..
10) Trinity TX68,8,x,x,x..
.      ....
RV Randy Mac    210,10,x,x,x..
RV Hendrix     110,x,x,x,x.
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.      ....

Corrections are always appreciated. 

Thanks to ADL70, hasanova, Scots13 and new pollster, FCGrizzlies.

ADL70

Interesting ... pretty fair consensus except for H-SU and CWRU
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BerryCollegeFan

I did not realize UMHB had a significantly softer schedule so far this season. Muhlenberg's SOS is almost twice as difficult in the comparison.  Is their schedule back-loaded with tougher games or is this about where we should expect to see the SOS at the end?

Pat Coleman

Two one-loss teams left on the schedule.
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Quote from: BerryCollegeFan on October 18, 2019, 09:39:51 AM
I did not realize UMHB had a significantly softer schedule so far this season. Muhlenberg's SOS is almost twice as difficult in the comparison.  Is their schedule back-loaded with tougher games or is this about where we should expect to see the SOS at the end?

Also doesn't help that UMHB's one non-conference game was to Albright who is currently riding a 15 game losing streak. Crazy, the 3 years before we played them they had gone 26-8.

But yeah the current cumulative record for the remaining games is 15-10 whereas the teams we have faced have a combined 5-21 record.

Wild Horse Rider

Also it looks like UMHB has already played the 3 worst teams from a record standpoint in their conference.  Muhlenberg waits till the last week of the season to get the worst 2 teams in their conference.  That along with TLU and HSU (Pat's reference) left on UMBH schedule should help to balance a little.  This weekends game against Southwest who currently is 1 game over .500 should help move the number up as well

Ron Boerger

Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on October 18, 2019, 02:56:24 PM
Also it looks like UMHB has already played the 3 worst teams from a record standpoint in their conference.  Muhlenberg waits till the last week of the season to get the worst 2 teams in their conference.  That along with TLU and HSU (Pat's reference) left on UMBH schedule should help to balance a little.  This weekends game against Southwest who currently is 1 game over .500 should help move the number up as well

I hope SW's QB can survive the UMHB rush.  If I read the release right they've got their third-string QB, Coleman Kerr, back (he got the win against Belhaven last week).   They lost their starter and backup in the opening game of the season (against Sewanee of all teams) and Kerr went out two weeks later against TLU.     

cover2

I'm not a voter but am curious why TLU is behind HSU on the poll despite the head to head win.  Any voters willing to share their opinions?

ADL70

One could argue that TLU has a slightly higher SoS and its loss was in week one to a one-loss team And with the H2H you might have a point that they are a better team than in week one. I think voters are voting on reputation to a great extent.
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It's not because of me, I had TLU 7th and HSU 8th.
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Wild Horse Rider

2 big upsets this past weekend with JHU and Berry losing to solid teams in conference.  This weekend there are three more games that should help sort out where everyone stands in the region.  Obviously UMHB and HSU has regional as well as national implications.  Averett is also traveling to Huntingdon in a match up of the only undefeated teams in the USAC.  Bridgewater also faces their first test in a W&L team that let one slip away against E&H last weekend.  Still 4 weeks to go and there is a lot to be sorted out:
ASC 3 teams still with hope and potential for pool C if and only if UMHB loses and doesn't win the AQ
CC Muhlenberg controls its fate.  Even a loss would tie them with Susquehanna and the head to head gives the Mules the AQ.  Susquehanna should have a shot at a pool C bid
ODAC 4 teams either undefeated or with 1 loss in conference and likely no pool C bid unless there is much chaos elsewhere and Bridgewater loses a close one to RMC and RMC gets the AQ (lot of ifs and buts with this one)
SAA 4 teams with 1 loss vying for the AQ and Berry has the only shot at pool C in my opinion if they don't get the AQ
USAC likely winner of the above game is in the driver seat for the AQ and no pool C potential

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on October 21, 2019, 11:26:06 AM
2 big upsets this past weekend with JHU and Berry losing to solid teams in conference.  This weekend there are three more games that should help sort out where everyone stands in the region.  Obviously UMHB and HSU has regional as well as national implications.  Averett is also traveling to Huntingdon in a match up of the only undefeated teams in the USAC.  Bridgewater also faces their first test in a W&L team that let one slip away against E&H last weekend.  Still 4 weeks to go and there is a lot to be sorted out:
ASC 3 teams still with hope and potential for pool C if and only if UMHB loses and doesn't win the AQ
CC Muhlenberg controls its fate.  Even a loss would tie them with Susquehanna and the head to head gives the Mules the AQ.  Susquehanna should have a shot at a pool C bid
ODAC 4 teams either undefeated or with 1 loss in conference and likely no pool C bid unless there is much chaos elsewhere and Bridgewater loses a close one to RMC and RMC gets the AQ (lot of ifs and buts with this one)
SAA 4 teams with 1 loss vying for the AQ and Berry has the only shot at pool C in my opinion if they don't get the AQ
USAC likely winner of the above game is in the driver seat for the AQ and no pool C potential


+1! Wild Horse Rider

hasanova

Quote from: ADL70 on October 18, 2019, 05:18:57 PM
One could argue that TLU has a slightly higher SoS and its loss was in week one to a one-loss team And with the H2H you might have a point that they are a better team than in week one. I think voters are voting on reputation to a great extent.
I think ADL70 has a point about reputation, especially since HSU lost by 11 to TLU at home.  Things will undoubtedly become much clearer after both play UMHB over the next few weeks.

Ralph Turner

South Region Fan Poll  Week #7






















1)  UMHB50         1,1,1,1,1..
2)  Muhlenberg452,2,2,2,2..
3)  Susq 393,3,3,3,4..
4)  HSU  313,4,5,6,6..
5)  TLU 294,5,5,5,7..
.....
6)  CWRU       234,4,5,9,10..
7)  Berry  226,6,7,7,7..
8)  Bridgewater 148,8,8,8,9..
9)  Trinity TX   96,7,x,x,x..
10) JHU78,9,9,x,x..
.      ....
RV Randy Mac    59,10,10,10,x..
RV Averett     110,x,x,x,x.
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Corrections are always appreciated. 

Thanks to ADL70, hasanova, Scots13 and new pollster, FCGrizzlies.