FB: Region 3 fan poll

[Ralph Turner]

UMHB stomped McMurry, who took a wounded HSU to OT and then easily handled HPU and Austin College as the team matured this season.

I wonder where Hansen has UMHB. IMHO, they are still the 5th best team in the region. Now, if they crumble in the rest of the season, in very uncharacteristic fashion, then they are the best 6-4 team in the country.


This is the proverbial "come to Jesus" meeting that the program needs to have. I expect the leadership on the UMHB team will assert itself over the off-season and we will see renewed vigor in Belton.

[y_jack_lok]

According to the X/Twitter post linked on the previous page, here's how Hansen has Region 3:

Trinity (TX)
Randolph-Macon
Hardin-Simmons
Bridgewater
Berry
Howard Payne
Hampden-Sydney
__________________________

Maryville
Huntingdon
Belhaven

That's a lot of love for the ODAC. And apparently has UMHB somewhere in the second 10 in the region.

[BSCpanthers]

UMHB is sort of an enigma, even this far into the season.  They may be almost good, or they may just be better than bad.  When they play a good team, they lose, when they play a "bottom dweller" team, they win.  When you're 4-4, and lost to every good team you have played, tells me you aren't good. 

[jknezek]

According to the X/Twitter post linked on the previous page, here's how Hansen has Region 3:

Trinity (TX)
Randolph-Macon
Hardin-Simmons
Bridgewater
Berry
Howard Payne
Hampden-Sydney
__________________________

Maryville
Huntingdon
Belhaven

That's a lot of love for the ODAC. And apparently has UMHB somewhere in the second 10 in the region.

With 3 losses... and R-MC still ahead, I'm just not sure how H-SC makes that list. Presumably they are going to finish the season 6-4. None of those 3 losses are bad, Wabash is 6-1 in D3 play, Bridgewater is 6-2, W&L is 6-2. And all 3 losses were close, but I just think there are better options for that last spot, especially since all 3 losses were home games for H-SC. Not that it really matters who is in that 7th spot except for Regional Rankings, and of course Hansen has nothing to do with those except as an indication.

It will really help R-MC if at least one of the other ODAC squads makes the Regional Rankings. Otherwise they will have 0 RROs. When W&L went undefeated in 2015 with 0 RROs they got sent to Thomas More. I don't think the Committee would put an undefeated R-MC on the road, but if you can't show you played at least one other Regionally Ranked team, it's going to be much tougher to justify that home game.

Especially since R-MC's SOS is going to be less than stellar. Currently 92nd. Those OOC's.... N.C. Wes might give you .500, but with M'ville and Huntingdon still to come 1-1 seems a stretch, Catholic at 3-5 could go 1-1 or 2-0, Wilkes is looking better after a horrendous start, but Juniata is not good. And the less said about Southern Virginia the better. With Belhaven and Maryville to go, 1-9 is very likely.

[Cowboy2]

R3 regional rankings

Belhaven   6-1   7-1
Berry   7-1   7-1
Bridewater (VA)   6-2   6-2
Hardin-Simmons   6-1   7-1
Randolph-Macon   8-0   8-0
Trinity (TX)   7-1   7-1
Wash. & Lee   5-2   6-2

[Hawks88]

Reminder that the first one is alphabetical.

[Wild Horse Rider]

I may be misremembering this but do they consider a regionally ranked opponent to have been once ranked to always count?  I only ask because with W&L and Bridgewater playing this weekend I assume one of those teams could fall out of the ranking and be replaced by Huntingdon if they were to beat Brevard on the road.  If that is the case that would help both Randy Mac who would have 2 RR wins as well as Berry would would be 1-1 in RR games.

[Ron Boerger]

I may be misremembering this but do they consider a regionally ranked opponent to have been once ranked to always count?  I only ask because with W&L and Bridgewater playing this weekend I assume one of those teams could fall out of the ranking and be replaced by Huntingdon if they were to beat Brevard on the road.  If that is the case that would help both Randy Mac who would have 2 RR wins as well as Berry would would be 1-1 in RR games.

At one point I think it was that way, but this is what the site's Playoffs FAQ says:

Results versus ranked Division III teams as established by the regional rankings at the time of selection. Conference postseason contests are included

which implies it's only the results against teams in the final ranking (the regions do another one just before the selection process starts) which count as vRRO.

[crufootball]

I may be misremembering this but do they consider a regionally ranked opponent to have been once ranked to always count?  I only ask because with W&L and Bridgewater playing this weekend I assume one of those teams could fall out of the ranking and be replaced by Huntingdon if they were to beat Brevard on the road.  If that is the case that would help both Randy Mac who would have 2 RR wins as well as Berry would would be 1-1 in RR games.

At one point I think it was that way, but this is what the site's Playoffs FAQ says:

Results versus ranked Division III teams as established by the regional rankings at the time of selection. Conference postseason contests are included

which implies it's only the results against teams in the final ranking (the regions do another one just before the selection process starts) which count as vRRO.

I thought of this during the podcast with this years chairman, if a win is a win no matter the score or opponent, you would think that once ranked always ranked would also fit but I agree that I don't believe it does anymore.

[y_jack_lok]

Hansen posted an update on X/Twitter saying he'd gotten some SOS stuff wrong, then an hour later posted this update: https://twitter.com/LogHanRatings/status/1719802802497638663/photo/1

Randolph-Macon
Hardin-Simmons
Trinity (TX)
Berry
Belhaven
Bridgewater
W&L
_____________________
Maryville
Hampden-Sydney
Huntingdon

[jknezek]

Region 3 (South Atlantic-Ish) Fan Poll Week 10

Conferences: ASC, ODAC, SAA, USASAC

Rank			School			Points			Weekly Change			Voter Breakdown
1			Trinity (TX) (6)			42			0			1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1
2			R-MC			35			0			2 , 2 , 2 , 2 , 3 , 2
3			Berry			30			0			3 , 3 , 3 , 4 , 2 , 3
4			Hardin-Simmons			25			0			4 , 4 , 4 , 3 , 4 , 4
5			Belhaven			15			0			6 , 5 , 5 , 7 , 5 , 5
6			W&L			11			---			5 , 7 , 7 , 5 , 7 , 6
7			Huntingdon			8			0			7 , 6 , 6 , 6 , 7

Also Receiving Votes:
UMHB (2)

Newly Ranked: W&L
Dropped Out: UMHB (Prev:6), Bridgewater (Prev:7)

1 = 1st Place Vote, 7 = 7th Place Vote in Voter Breakdown
Special Thanks to the Voters: jknezek, BSCpanthers, Wild Horse Rider, Ralph Turner, Cowboy2, Hawks88

[BSCpanthers]

Where will selection Sunday be broadcast? Is it Sunday or Monday??? 

[Ron Boerger]

Where will selection Sunday be broadcast? Is it Sunday or Monday???

Sunday at 5pm ET, broadcast link on NCAA.com when live.   

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-11-05/2023-ncaa-diii-football-championship-how-watch-selection-show-bracket-information

[Cowboy2]

Watched a handful of the games tonight.... Wanted to see how Salisbury was Since we know what RMC is. Kean did not look great in their 31-28 defeat.

Granted, W&L lost to them the first game of the season, but it's still puzzling that UMHB, losing to four teams ranked inside the Top 5 (at one point or another) is just tossed to the side, and the Cru Panic button is being voiced. I voted for W&L this past week over UMHB, as I did Huntingdon; since they only lost to Berry and Belhaven. However, in a head up playoff, I feel UMHB is truly still #5 in R3...maybe maybe not, but they have the athletes to take over a game still.

No rant here, just stinks that some teams will be left out of playoffs when they can clearly (or not) play amongst the rest of the field handedly (Berry) based on SoS or RROs MOV. I feel there needs to be some eye test calculation in it like JB and Frank talked about on their podcast.

Would be cool if ASC/SAA #2s played ODAC/USAC #2s and winner had a bowl.

Anyways. It's been another fun season for R3. I enjoy this weekly weekend escape I get to share with you all while enjoying football at its purest form.

On to the final week. 

[BSCpanthers]

For UMHB, the problem I see is that when they have played a good(ranked) team, they have lost.  Had they won at least one of those I could possibly see it another way.  For the UMHB fans, that team hasn't lost 3 games in a season since 1999, much less losing 3 in a row.  The best wins they have are over teams that are currently 5-4 a piece.  UMHB could end the season without a win over a team with a winning record. 

Berry has destroyed everyone they played, except Trinity.

RMC has destroyed everyone they played, period. 

I would love to see more bowl games for these teams.  For sure there have been teams in the past couple years in R3 that deserved some sort of reward for their season.