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HSC85

Keith,

I completely agree that Del Val should be ranked above HSC.  They have played a much stronger schedule with success than HSC.  My question was with Centre especially with a commone opponent and comparable strength of schedule.  Thanks for your input. 

Also a shout out to a team from Ashland that has won 4 in a row.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: HSC85 on October 11, 2009, 11:19:21 PM
Keith,

I completely agree that Del Val should be ranked above HSC.  They have played a much stronger schedule with success than HSC.  My question was with Centre especially with a commone opponent and comparable strength of schedule.  Thanks for your input. 

Also a shout out to a team from Ashland that has won 4 in a row.

Voters probably also factor in the defeat of a 4-1 DePauw team that was ranked in the top 20 at the time of their loss to Centre and is still receiving votes; HSC defeated E&H last week, but E&H never got in the top 25 (or even any votes). 

To be honest, tho, I'm surprised to see Centre in the top 25 after a one point win against a now 2-3 opponent who lost 41-14 the week before. 

BoBo

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 11, 2009, 07:06:04 PM
Week #6

North has 10 teams; West has 9.

South Region has 5 teams.  At #23, Del Valley is the only team out of the East.

Correction - I count 10 teams in the west -


1.    2 UW-Whitewater
2.    6 St. John's
3.    7 Linfield
4.    8 Central
5.    11 Monmouth
6.    15 St. Thomas
7.    17 Willamette
8.    18 Occidental
9.    24 UW-La Crosse
10.  25 Redlands
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

Ralph Turner

My bad.  I put Monmouth in the North.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: BoBo on October 12, 2009, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 11, 2009, 07:06:04 PM
Week #6

North has 10 teams; West has 9.

South Region has 5 teams.  At #23, Del Valley is the only team out of the East.

Correction - I count 10 teams in the west -


1.    2 UW-Whitewater
2.    6 St. John's
3.    7 Linfield
4.    8 Central
5.    11 Monmouth
6.    15 St. Thomas
7.    17 Willamette
8.    18 Occidental
9.    24 UW-La Crosse
10.  25 Redlands


You are correct, sir.

My guess would be that Monmouth (being in Illinois) got incorrectly counted as North.

The point remains that 76% of top 25 teams are in the North and West.

And just as I was about to hit 'post', Ralph confirmed my guess! ;D

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 12, 2009, 11:53:16 PM
My bad.  I put Monmouth in the North.

The MWC is lumped into the Midwest/Central Regions in Hoops with the CCIW, and I forgot that the MWC is in the West for Football.

Thanks for correcting that!

BoBo

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 12, 2009, 11:53:16 PM
My bad.  I put Monmouth in the North.

No problem...after living in the east for many years earlier in my life, I always thought Monmouth was out there, east, as in West Long Branch, New Jersey!!   ;)
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

Ralph Turner

Okay who is on the Pool C bubble?

Quote from: BoBo on October 12, 2009, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 11, 2009, 07:06:04 PM
Week #6

North has 10 teams; West has 9.

South Region has 5 teams.  At #23, Del Valley is the only team out of the East.

Correction - I count 10 teams in the west -


1.    2 UW-Whitewater  WIAC
2.    6 St. John's            MIAC
3.    7 Linfield                NWC
4.    8 Central               IIAC
5.    11 Monmouth        MWC
6.    15 St. Thomas        MIAC (plays SJU on Saturday)
7.    17 Willamette          NWC  (already has an in-region loss to the Cobbers; hosts Linfield 10/24)
8.    18 Occidental          SCIAC
9.    24 UW-La Crosse    WIAC  (has in-region loss to UWP; hosts UWW on 11/14)
10.  25 Redlands             SCIAC (lost to Oxy on 10-10)


Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2009, 12:22:59 AM
Okay who is on the Pool C bubble?

Quote from: BoBo on October 12, 2009, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 11, 2009, 07:06:04 PM
Week #6

North has 10 teams; West has 9.

South Region has 5 teams.  At #23, Del Valley is the only team out of the East.

Correction - I count 10 teams in the west -


1.    2 UW-Whitewater  WIAC
2.    6 St. John's            MIAC
3.    7 Linfield                NWC
4.    8 Central               IIAC
5.    11 Monmouth        MWC
6.    15 St. Thomas        MIAC (plays SJU on Saturday)
7.    17 Willamette          NWC  (already has an in-region loss to the Cobbers; hosts Linfield 10/24)
8.    18 Occidental          SCIAC
9.    24 UW-La Crosse    WIAC  (has in-region loss to UWP; hosts UWW on 11/14)
10.  25 Redlands             SCIAC (lost to Oxy on 10-10)


As long as you're gonna be a couple of weeks premature, so will I! :D

Who are the 4 #1s that the brackets get built around?

While the d3football.com poll is not a selection criterion, barring upsets MUC and UWW seem like no-brainers.  Probably the same with UMHB.  But who is #4?

Since the 'east' seems to have no viable candidates, #4 may determine whether MUC goes east, and everything else is 'regional'; MUC goes east and UWW goes north; or Wesley goes east.  IF MUC, UWW, and UMHB don't stumble, a whole lot of the bracketology is riding on which team is the fourth #1 seed. ;D

redswarm81

Quote from: BoBo and Ralph Turner on October 12, 2009, 11:28:16 PM

North has 9 teams; West has 10.

South Region has 5 teams.  At #23, Del Valley is the only team out of the East.

1.    2 UW-Whitewater
2.    6 St. John's
3.    7 Linfield
4.    8 Central
5.    11 Monmouth
6.    15 St. Thomas
7.    17 Willamette
8.    18 Occidental
9.    24 UW-La Crosse
10.  25 Redlands


Occidental is in the West?  How could anyone have guessed that?  ;)
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Ralph Turner

MUC to the East
UWW to the North or West
UMHB to the South
Wheaton to the North

Waiting in the wings, SJU and Wesley...

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2009, 12:57:23 AM
MUC to the East
UWW to the North or West
UMHB to the South
Wheaton to the North

Waiting in the wings, SJU and Wesley...


But that was exactly my point.

Wesley, Wheaton, SJU, Linfield, etc. etc., are all in the wings waiting for their rivals to stumble (or one of the 'big three').  As I admitted, this question is probably at least two weeks premature! ;D

But at least the MWC title was won on Saturday - will they still play out the season?  (I was dying to type that, but didn't have the guts to do it on the MWC board! ;D)

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 13, 2009, 01:12:10 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2009, 12:57:23 AM
MUC to the East
UWW to the North or West
UMHB to the South
Wheaton to the North

Waiting in the wings, SJU and Wesley...


But that was exactly my point.

Wesley, Wheaton, SJU, Linfield, etc. etc., are all in the wings waiting for their rivals to stumble (or one of the 'big three').  As I admitted, this question is probably at least two weeks premature! ;D

But at least the MWC title was won on Saturday - will they still play out the season?  (I was dying to type that, but didn't have the guts to do it on the MWC board! ;D)

How about saying that in a haiku...

Monmouth beats Green Knights.
Tanney sets career record.
The title is won.

;D   ;)

MWCfan787

Whoa whoa whoa!  I know these MWC statements aren't far off, but are you trying to jinx the Scots?  Ripon gave Monmouth its toughest test in the regular season last year.  Monmouth was down 35-25 with 5 mins to go and came back to win 38-35 scoring with only about a min to play.

If they win this Saturday at Ripon, then I have no problem saying the title is won.
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TC

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 13, 2009, 12:47:45 AM
Who are the 4 #1s that the brackets get built around?

#1 - East - Mount Union
#2 - North - UW-Whitewater
#3 - South - Mary Hardin-Baylor
#4 - West - Winner of this Saturday's St. John's/St. Thomas game

Talent-wise, I think St. Thomas is the best non-WIAC team in the West.  Their recent struggles against St. John's have been well-documented and they haven't had the recent playoff success that Linfield and Central have, but if they can beat SJU (and both teams win out), they will have the resume of a #1/#2 seed.

If SJU beats St. Thomas (and both teams win out), I think they pretty clearly become the 4th #1 with the normal MUC/UW-W machinations that that entails.  And I really hope it happens, but I think they are decided underdogs on Saturday against USTd.  Ugh, it sucks to write that.
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