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wally_wabash

I think it was Keith in the podcast that mentioned something to the effect that UMHB is obviously better than what they've shown recently due to the fact that their team is a MASH unit right now, but unfortunately when it comes to balloting, the guys with the votes have to evaluate the team that they have and not the team that they could have if we could go into the game settings and turn injuries off. 

UMHB is fine...the loss wasn't D-III, it doesn't hurt their chances to get into the playoffs and shouldn't hurt their seed at all.  I just hope they had a good time in Ashland...lots of cool stuff to see and do in that little town.   :)
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Toby Taff

Quote from: cwru70 on October 28, 2008, 10:59:08 AM
I'm not suggsting figuring it in, except to say thatUMHB did not play the same SOU team as Linfield and Willamette.  To me that calls in question the validity of down-rating UMHB based on results v SOU.

8904, are any of the injured RBs expected to return? 
A few weeks ago they said Daniels may be able to return for the Nov. 8th game.  That's homecoming so it would be nice, and that would also give him 2 weeks before the playoffs.  I haven't heard anything about Hurst.  THe injury was first reported as a stinger, but he hasn't played RB since.  The projected started for this week is a Freshman  who has had pretty good success, and number 2 is likely to be a sophomore converted LB who has had several really strong runs.  The knock on the Freshman is he only weighs 175, program weight, but at least has a burst when he gets in the secondary.

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 28, 2008, 11:45:45 AM
UMHB is fine...the loss wasn't D-III, it doesn't hurt their chances to get into the playoffs and shouldn't hurt their seed at all.  I just hope they had a good time in Ashland...lots of cool stuff to see and do in that little town.   :)
They should be fine.  They have to lose 2 of 3 to not get the AQ, and if they lose 3 of the last 4 they shouldn't be in the playoffs anyway.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

muledaddy


Mates,

Mules hit no 2 in AFCA today. Nobody jumping over them without getting kicked, unlikeD3.

pg04

Of course that poll's pretty much a joke... 

DadofBashWarrior..

Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on July 14, 2008, 02:19:14 PM
I think North Central is underrated in all the polls.

NOTICE THE DATE OF THE ABOVE POST


I am glad to see North Central getting the respect they are due....Congrats to them!!!

WABASH ALWAYS FIGHTS

muledaddy



K-Mack/Pat,

Nice to see Mules getting a little respect from AFCA...no. 2 ranking...I guess the coaches see it a

tad diferently than the Gurus, who inexplicably hopped 2 teams over the Mules when they were

continuing to win in the rain and the wind while theteams above them were busy losing. Go figure...a poll is just a guess, I guess????????? Certainly improbable inadmissible speculation, right?

Pat Coleman

There are 23 other voters who felt the same way, that Muhlenberg, playing zero ranked teams and nobody getting any votes, merited the No. 4 spot. That's still very high praise for a team with the 2008 resume of Muhlenberg.

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pg04

Well #2 North Central thoroughly handled #4 Wheaton on the road and #3 Handled a pretty good Wooster team so I would suggest the jumps are legitimate... Plus you are only down on #3 by 10 voter points.  

I would ask a different question... What exactly have the mules done to actually deserve a #2 or even a #4 ranking?  

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Thank you Pat and pg04

+1k to you both
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d-train

Quote from: pg04 on October 28, 2008, 07:56:26 PM
Well #2 North Central thoroughly handled #4 Wheaton on the road and #3 Handled a pretty good Wooster team so I would suggest the jumps are legitimate... Plus you are only down on #3 by 10 voter points.  

I would ask a different question... What exactly have the mules done to actually deserve a #2 or even a #4 ranking?  

Also, a close look at the AFCA poll shows that the 2, 3, and 4 spots are bunched closely together (in terms of voter points).

pg04

Why exactly does UW-Whitewater have a number 1 vote in the AFCA poll when they just lost to an unranked team? LOL

old ends

We have tried to explain to the muledaddy how it works\
as I responded to him the other day.

The winning record for Muhlenberg looks good on paper but the fact that teams they have beaten are not winning hurts them on the same paper.

It is not that Centennial is a week conference it just that the teams out of conference, for Muhlenberg, are not helping them.
Wilkes  2 - 5, Alfred 3 - 3, non conference,

Gettysburg 3-5, Juniata 1 - 7, McDaniel 2 - 5, F & M 3 - 4. conference
Of the games left Dickinson and Moravian are the only two left that have winning records and that could change.

I am hoping that Muhlenberg keeps winning, but I think Dickinson and Moravian may be two possible stumbling blocks for thier program. Only the team's Victories could prove me wrong


So we let him rant until he his fingers get tired.

K-Mack

likewise, this probably belongs here:

Quotepresidents Says:

October 26th, 2008 at 11:04 pm e

three teams lose in the top 4 and W&J stays at 9

have any of you actaully seen them play this year?

D3Keith Says:
October 28th, 2008 at 10:36 pm e

Yeah, sorry I couldn't make it to the big showdowns with Oberlin and Frostburg State.

That's the price you pay for playing the schedule you do; You can't help the conference part of course, but when No. 7 North Central plays No. 4 Wheaton, you saw what it did to their ranking.

There's a team about an hour or so to the Northwest that will be looking for a non-conference game in 2010. If W&J schedules it, I will come.
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K-Mack

Quote from: pg04 on October 28, 2008, 08:11:00 PM
Why exactly does UW-Whitewater have a number 1 vote in the AFCA poll when they just lost to an unranked team? LOL

Two words.

Larry.

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pg04

Quote from: K-Mack on October 28, 2008, 10:43:49 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 28, 2008, 08:11:00 PM
Why exactly does UW-Whitewater have a number 1 vote in the AFCA poll when they just lost to an unranked team? LOL

Two words.

Larry.

Kehres.

Ah-ha! A logical answer!