The 2008 Year-in-Review thread

[Ralph Turner]

#  repete Says:
September 14th, 2008 at 12:10 am

I'll offer this up here just because things have slowed down and I can't be smited smote here for admitting to listening to the James Madison/UMass game (hey I was lost driving around in the woodsy wilds of McLean).

But anyway, JMU scores twice in a 34-second span in the final minute of the 1st half. At one point, the Dukes get a boost with a "clock moment" and the announcers says something like ... "Hey this isn't Rowan-Bridgewater... "

YES!  I heard that broadcast as well!  I was a few miles south of you, in Fairfax City--GMU territory, and I nearly fell out of my driver's seat.  But continuing the tenuous thread:

• JMU broadcast cites Division III classic, and
• GMU's club football team played (and lost to) Newport News yesterday,

maybe there's something afoot in the University of Virginia system regarding Division III athletics.  Hmmmm, . . .

The only recourse for the UVA system to play D-III is to dismantle all D-1 and D-II programs and move to D-III.

In the Texas, the University of Texas System has two D-III participants:  UT-Tyler and UT-Dallas.

The Texas State University System (San Marcos, the former Southwest Texas State, is the main campus) has one campus in D-III, i.e., Sul Ross State.  All other state schools are D-I FBS, D-I FCs or D-II.

[redswarm81]

#  repete Says: September 14th, 2008 at 12:10 am

JMU scores twice in a 34-second span in the final minute of the 1st half. At one point, the Dukes get a boost with a "clock moment" and the announcers says something like ... "Hey this isn't Rowan-Bridgewater... "

YES!  I heard that broadcast as well!  I was a few miles south of you, in Fairfax City--GMU territory, and I nearly fell out of my driver's seat.  But continuing the tenuous thread:

• JMU broadcast cites Division III classic, and
• GMU's club football team played (and lost to) Newport News yesterday,

maybe there's something afoot in the University of Virginia system regarding Division III athletics.  Hmmmm, . . .

The only recourse for the UVA system to play D-III is to dismantle all D-1 and D-II programs and move to D-III.

In the Texas, the University of Texas System has two D-III participants:  UT-Tyler and UT-Dallas.

The Texas State University System (San Marcos, the former Southwest Texas State, is the main campus) has one campus in D-III, i.e., Sul Ross State.  All other state schools are D-I FBS, D-I FCs or D-II.

Okay, I'm a tad confused--but it's probably my fault.

I might have confused the issue by not explicitly pointing out that James Madison University (JMU) and George Mason University (GMU) are Virginia state schools--I was referring to both both JMU and GMU as part of "the University of Virginia System," although technically they are not affiliated with UVA.

That said, is there any reason why the state of Virginia couldn't keep UVA (Charlottesville) as D-1 and let say, James Madison University participate in D-III, as it appears the UT system has done with UT-Tyler and UT-Dallas?  I mean, the UT system didn't dismantle all of its D-1 and D-II systems in order to permit UT-Tyler and UT-Dallas to participate in D-III, did they?

[Ralph Turner]

Hello, redswarm!

I think that we are saying the same thing

GMU and JMU would need to become D-III completely and with the Final Four in recent memory, I don't think that we will be seeing GMU move to D-III for the sake of non-scholarship football.

In Texas, each campus in the four systems (UT, A&M, Texas Tech and Texas State) has governed its own athletic fortunes.

UT-Dallas started as a research institute by some Texas Instruments folks and competed in NAIA in its early years.

UT-Tyler was an upper level college (Jr/SR and grad schools) until recently and has moved from NAIA to D-III.

The only University of Virginia campus that I can see moving to D-III is Wise, but against whom would they compete and in which conference?

[redswarm81]

Hello, redswarm!

I think that we are saying the same thing

The only University of Virginia campus that I can see moving to D-III is Wise, but against whom would they compete and in which conference?

Gotcha, Ralph.  I just didn't realize I already understood.       

Since you've stretched this tenuous thread even thinner, and since I actually know where the heck Wise is, I suppose they could try and get into the ODAC or the USA South Conference, if I were to answer logically.  However, since this subject ariz when I made a complete out-of-left-field speculation, I'd figure that were UVA-Wise to enter D-III, it would catalyze several regional schools to follow suit, and the Lincoln League would be formed by schools hailing from Kentucky, West Virginia, and western Virginia.

As far as legitimate 2008 Year-in-Review items, that decision by UofRochester to accept the personal foul penalty against St. John Fisher, thus voluntarily relinquishing a field goal for a 1st and goal on the 5 (that Rochester failed to convert), might qualify as a 2008 watershed moment--not that UofR was going to go much of anywhere anyway.

[Ralph Turner]

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As far as legitimate 2008 Year-in-Review items, that decision by UofRochester to accept the personal foul penalty against St. John Fisher, thus voluntarily relinquishing a field goal for a 1st and goal on the 5 (that Rochester failed to convert), might qualify as a 2008 watershed moment--not that UofR was going to go much of anywhere anyway.

Or, that might be the turning point that permits SJF to get a Pool C bid!

We've got it noted for K-Mack to cite it in his season-ending review. 

[K-Mack]

We've got it noted for K-Mack to cite it in his season-ending review. 

I was starting to wonder if we'd ever get back to said subject ... although I was thoroughly enthralled by the side discussion, admittedly.

redswarm, you've never been to Wise, have you? Somewhere past Galax ...

[redswarm81]

We've got it noted for K-Mack to cite it in his season-ending review. 

I was starting to wonder if we'd ever get back to said subject ... although I was thoroughly enthralled by the side discussion, admittedly.

redswarm, you've never been to Wise, have you? Somewhere past Galax ...

No, I've never been to Wise, VA, although an erstwhile (and deserving) object of my affections hails from there.

I'm currently wooing a stunning former D-II athlete from sort-of-near-Wise Bristol Virginniessee.  If I score a date with her, we'll have a 2008 Year-in-Review item for the ages!

[Bob.Gregg]

red,

Somebody said that your "wooing" of her probably draws her "stunning"ness into question.....

j/k

[ADL70]

Here's one for the strange play department.

I'm sure most of us have seen a qb catch his own pass and have seen punters make the tackle on the return, but has anyone seen a punter down his own punt?

If you had been paying attention at Saturday's Wooster-Denison game you would have seen Dension's punter, #9 Caleb McFerren, in the third quarter hit what looked like a decent punt only to see it land with backspin worthy of a Tiger Woods wedge and come bouncing back towards the los.  McFerren stopped it before it made it all the way back, but it ended up an 11 yard punt.

[Ralph Turner]

Here's one for the strange play department.

I'm sure most of us have seen a qb catch his own pass and have seen punters make the tackle on the return, but has anyone seen a punter down his own punt?

If you had been paying attention at Saturday's Wooster-Denison game you would have seen Dension's punter, #9 Caleb McFerren, in the third quarter hit what looked like a decent punt only to see it land with backspin worthy of a Tiger Woods wedge and come bouncing back towards the los.  McFerren stopped it before it made it all the way back, but it ended up an 11 yard punt.

Can you get a Youtube of it and post it on the boards? 

[ADL70]

I wish I could, but I don't know of any available video of the game.  I found a youtube clip of Wester v Denison and several Denison clips from 2006 and 2007 though.

[Ralph Turner]

I wish I could, but I don't know of any available video of the game.  I found a youtube clip of Wester v Denison and several Denison clips from 2006 and 2007 though.

Talk to the SID...

Does the UAA exchange "game films"?

[redswarm81]

Here's one for the strange play department.

I'm sure most of us have seen a qb catch his own pass and have seen punters make the tackle on the return, but has anyone seen a punter down his own punt?

If you had been paying attention at Saturday's Wooster-Denison game you would have seen Dension's punter, #9 Caleb McFerren, in the third quarter hit what looked like a decent punt only to see it land with backspin worthy of a Tiger Woods wedge and come bouncing back towards the los.  McFerren stopped it before it made it all the way back, but it ended up an 11 yard punt.

Ugh.  That's a post-traumatic stress inducer.   During my team's doldrums, our punter wasn't even that good.  The only time you could be certain he'd boom a punt is when we were punting from the opponent's 40--then he'd put it out of the end zone, so we'd net 20 yards on the punt.

[roocru]

Did you hear about the punter that was so bad that even though his punt appreared to be blocked  in the backfield they could not give the defensive player credit for it.   

Seems the referee said the punt was already on the way down!!   

[ADL70]

McFerran is a good punter.  He averaged 40.1 last year and 39.3 on his other six punts v Wooster.  Although Denison does use another punter when attempting to put the ball close to the goal line.