Potential Playoff Selections / Seedings

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redswarm81

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 15, 2008, 04:43:11 PM
With Cortland St. falling (and Muhlenberg also falling), I'd say it is now as sure a thing as speculation ever is that MUC will anchor the 'East' again.  With Wabash falling, NCC will almost certainly anchor the North.  No more worries for Willamette that NCC will replace them in the West. ;)

What if Willamette loses?  Can a 9-0 Oxy get a no. 1 seed?  (I won't go so far as to wonder what if Oxy loses, even though crazy STUFF has happened today.

Okay Old Tiger beat me to it--I'll let him have the Oxy loss.
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Bob.Gregg

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 13, 2008, 08:28:49 AM
....While there has never been a monumental "C" collapse the likes of which you probably need to get an invite, it has happened in "B".  Several years ago, the entire "B" pool collapsed on the final day.  The whole thing.  THUD!  So, there is hope...

Well, I guess there has been NOW!  THUD!
Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.

redswarm81

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 15, 2008, 06:07:41 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 13, 2008, 08:28:49 AM
....While there has never been a monumental "C" collapse the likes of which you probably need to get an invite, it has happened in "B".  Several years ago, the entire "B" pool collapsed on the final day.  The whole thing.  THUD!  So, there is hope...

Well, I guess there has been NOW!  THUD!

Here's something to look forward to, though:  Next year, you'll again have the opportunity to explain ad infinitum that a 10-0 team with a decent OWP/OOWP and multiple wins v. RROs cannot justifiably be replaced as a No. 1 seed by an out-of-region team--at least not under the NCAA Selection and seeding criteria.
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All races in one place:

D3 Races

Includes Pool B teams in the hunt.
Includes Pool C 1-loss & 2-loss teams in the hunt.
Includes all 23 AQ races.

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coco

Two words:  THE STREAK

smedindy

In the regular season, it's death, taxes and Mt. Union. Except for that one year...
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Thanks Bob.

Just for some additional information, LaGrange (now SLIAC Champs) are 8-0 for DIII purposes.

Their loss was to an NAIA school (Shorter) and one win was to a provisional member (Birmingham Southern).

P.S. My hat's off to Huntingdon -- they gave our boys a good game.
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old ends

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 15, 2008, 06:07:41 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 13, 2008, 08:28:49 AM
....While there has never been a monumental "C" collapse the likes of which you probably need to get an invite, it has happened in "B".  Several years ago, the entire "B" pool collapsed on the final day.  The whole thing.  THUD!  So, there is hope...

Well, I guess there has been NOW!  THUD!

Here I thought it was the storms that hit our area.... Just when you thought Ralph had it all figured out.



K-Mack

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 15, 2008, 06:07:41 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 13, 2008, 08:28:49 AM
....While there has never been a monumental "C" collapse the likes of which you probably need to get an invite, it has happened in "B".  Several years ago, the entire "B" pool collapsed on the final day.  The whole thing.  THUD!  So, there is hope...

Well, I guess there has been NOW!  THUD!

Pretty good call. +1 k

2003 was the other year. W&J Coach Mike Sirianni mentions on the show being on the other side of where he was this year, when his team lost in Week 11 and got caught up in the out-of-the-playoffs avalanche. This year, they were one of the few teams that handled business in Week 11.
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K-Mack

Quote from: redswarm81 on November 14, 2008, 09:05:38 PM
You don't have to believe me, you can ask Bob Gregg on this one as well:  The Selection Committee MAY NOT consider any polls in making its selection and seeding.

I can't tell you how glad I am for that to be the case. Not that we don't put the work in as far as seeing teams and breaking down the numbers ... but I can live without that kind of pressure on my top 25 vote.  ;)
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K-Mack

Quote from: Upstate on November 14, 2008, 08:32:12 PM
Its mixed over in the East, a couple of us out there dont mind the top 4 teams getting brackets while some think since its "our" region "our" teams should be make the bracket up...

I still think MUC is going to be the #1 seed in the East regardless of the Cortaca Jug game...

This is the only post where I've clearly seen stated what the beef is.

And I think that if an East Region team had properly handled business, it would have been rewarded, regardless of whether or not it was clearly articulated in the in the HuddLLe interview or not.

I pretty consistently maintained all along that Cortland State at 10-0 is No. 1 seed material.

I don't think the committee moves teams in unnecessarily. There is no precedent for that, nor is there much reason to believe it would have been necessary if Cortland had beaten Ithaca.

In any case ... time to let this one go.
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pg04

Quote from: K-Mack on November 17, 2008, 01:34:37 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 14, 2008, 08:32:12 PM
Its mixed over in the East, a couple of us out there dont mind the top 4 teams getting brackets while some think since its "our" region "our" teams should be make the bracket up...

I still think MUC is going to be the #1 seed in the East regardless of the Cortaca Jug game...

This is the only post where I've clearly seen stated what the beef is.

And I think that if an East Region team had properly handled business, it would have been rewarded, regardless of whether or not it was clearly articulated in the in the HuddLLe interview or not.

I pretty consistently maintained all along that Cortland State at 10-0 is No. 1 seed material.

I don't think the committee moves teams in unnecessarily. There is no precedent for that, nor is there much reason to believe it would have been necessary if Cortland had beaten Ithaca.

In any case ... time to let this one go.

I concur!  No reason to have a one loss #1 seed just to keep a "true" east region.  I think it would have been quite unfair to put North Central and MUC in the same bracket.