Pool C

[smedindy]

So you think they'll move Thomas More North and then boot Case East? Any chance W & J gets a "C" and goes East?

[HSC85]

Ralph,

I understand that HSU will have to be chosen before any other South Region team get a look.  My question is why do you think RPI or Ithaca would be chosen over HSC if they are on the table at the same time?

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph,

I understand that HSU will have to be chosen before any other South Region team get a look.  My question is why do you think RPI or Ithaca would be chosen over HSC if they are on the table at the same time?

Great question...

I guess that you want SJF to beat to Alfred (and Cortland to beat Ithaca), but I think that RPI's losing to Merchant Marine is a stretch.

Then it comes down to who's on the boards.

Using last week's Regional Rankings with some consideration for future outcomes,

I think that the first four Pool C bids to come off the table in no particular order are:

Montclair State, Otterbein, HSU and UW-Whitewater

Next we have

East -- RPI
North -- ?Wooster?
South -- W&J,  ( then HSC)
West -- Redlands.

I think that RPI and Redlands go.

As of right now, I wonder if H-SC even gets on the table.

[HSC85]

Ralph,

Thank you for that response.  I had forgotten about W&J.  Your right HSC would need to be ranked ahead of them in the Regional rankings and that is not likely to happen.

[PA_wesleyfan]

 Ralph

Who has a higher regional ranking from one region to another when even and looking at B's andf C's only?
Is it possible that a # 4 in one region can actually be nationally behind a # 7  from another region?

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph

Who has a higher regional ranking from one region to another when even and looking at B's andf C's only?
Is it possible that a # 4 in one region can actually be nationally behind a # 7  from another region?

Yes, I think that that might happen, altho' we never see the final regional rankings.

[altor]

East -- RPI
North -- ?Wooster?
South -- W&J,  ( then HSC)
West -- Redlands.

Not that it matters a lot, but I predict Adrian (6-2/7-2) is still ahead of Wooster (4-2/6-2) when regional rankings are released this week.

[Mr. Ypsi]

A possible C complication that I don't recall anyone mentioning.  Ithaca has been scratched out as an AQ, but if SJF beats Alfred (and I'd think they are favored) I believe they would win the E8 AQ (having beaten Ithaca h-to-h).

IF Ithaca wins the Cortaca Bowl, they're 9-1 (AND probably bring MUC over as the East #1, IMO).  How would that alter predictions?

If they lose to Cortland St., they'd still be 8-2 - outside looking in, or bubble? 

Of course, if Alfred beats SJF, forget I ever posted this.

[Bob.Gregg]

All races in one place:

D3 Races

Includes Pool B teams in the hunt.
Includes Pool C 1-loss teams in the hunt.
Includes all 23 AQ races.

and it's 3-page .pdf printable....

[WAF78]

Not that it matters a lot, but I predict Adrian (6-2/7-2) is still ahead of Wooster (4-2/6-2) when regional rankings are released this week.

I'm not so sure...Wooster's record is 5-2/7-2 with their two losses being to two regionally ranked teams...Wabash and Case. Adrian's losses are to one regionally ranked team, Trine, and Capital at 5-4. Would it be that Wooster is penalized for playing and winning two out of region games?

[K-Mack]

A possible C complication that I don't recall anyone mentioning.  Ithaca has been scratched out as an AQ, but if SJF beats Alfred (and I'd think they are favored) I believe they would win the E8 AQ (having beaten Ithaca h-to-h).

IF Ithaca wins the Cortaca Bowl, they're 9-1 (AND probably bring MUC over as the East #1, IMO).  How would that alter predictions?

If they lose to Cortland St., they'd still be 8-2 - outside looking in, or bubble? 

Of course, if Alfred beats SJF, forget I ever posted this.

I think they are in with a win over Cortland St. and out with a loss.

With a win, they will have the win over an RRO and decent SOS numbers, I believe (Cortland, Lycoming, Empire 8)

With a loss, two is too many to overcome.

Off top, I have 10 Pool C candidates in this approximate order:

Otterbein
UW-Whitewater (could go A if UW-SP loses)
Hardin-Simmons
Ithaca (could drop out vs. Cortland State)
Montclair State

RPI/Redlands/Hampden-Sydney/W&J

Curry

[K-Mack]

For those in need of hope:

Otterbein, Ithaca and H-SC could very well lose this week (JCU, CSt. & R-MC) and UW-W could become an A team.

FWIW.

[HSC85]

K-MACK,

Good analysis.  And that is the last comment that I can bring myself to give you this week.  The Game should be a good one.  Both teams are playing pretty well.  This makes things much more interesting instead of things being one-sided.  Also, I think that if Bridewater and RMC win this week then RMC would go as the AQ for the ODAC.

[HScoach]

All races in one place:

D3 Races

Nice summary.  THANKS!

[ADL70]

Not that it matters a lot, but I predict Adrian (6-2/7-2) is still ahead of Wooster (4-2/6-2) when regional rankings are released this week.

I'm not so sure...Wooster's record is 5-2/7-2 with their two losses being to two regionally ranked teams...Wabash and Case. Adrian's losses are to one regionally ranked team, Trine, and Capital at 5-4. Would it be that Wooster is penalized for playing and winning two out of region games?

Someome correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think who you lose to or MOV are selection criteria. (Not that I don't think they should be)  Wooster's non-region wins would be secondary criteria I believe.  I've already vented my abhorrence of the distinction given to in-region, given the meaninglessness of the distinction.