ECACs

[Pat Coleman]

Over the last 24 hours, a strange thing happened to the North declarations -- there had been 16 teams listed (and I'll provide a full lineup of eligible declared teams after tomorrow's games as I normally do around this time of season).  However, Cortland, Alfred, Norwich, Western New England, Husson, and Fisher have disappeared from the North's declared teams, leaving just 10 North declarations.

Of course, this could have been a clerical error, as Morrisville's affiliation changed back from "Empire 8" back to "NEAC" in the most recent listing.  However, Wesley appeared for the first time, while Bethany, FDU-Florham, and Westminster disappeared from the South.  There looks to be only three South teams that would qualify presently, as Stevenson should've also withdrawn after yesterday's announcement (but still appears as of tonight).

The drop may be due to the exposure of the new rules that occurred when the MAC/CC announcement was made.  Remember that the $3,000 ticket requirement for all schools would have affected all participants, not just far away schools.  The hotel price and the lack of a revenue split appears to also have turned the stomachs of the withdrawing schools, if I had to guess.

More on this after the games go final Saturday.

ECAC declarations are back to "normal" with new exceptions of MAC/CC etc. 

http://ecacsports.com/ECACD3FBFEST/Declared_Teams_11-6-15.pdf

I can see it now: Buff State vs. Carnegie Mellon. Traveling a combined 871 miles each way to Central Connecticut State.

[jknezek]

I can see it now: Buff State vs. Carnegie Mellon. Traveling a combined 871 miles each way to Central Connecticut State.

And I just threw up a little in my mouth thinking of those teams being out travel costs and $3K in tickets when they sell a combined 500 just to parents living in CT.

[gordonmann]

I'm told Stevenson will not participate in ECACs, even though they initially submitted. They won't have to either. There are extremely unlikely to lose to FDU-Florham, so they will finish 8-2 and no worse than tied for second with whomever wins the Del Val/Widener game.

[ITH radio]

http://ecacsports.com/ECACD3FBFEST/Declared_Teams_11-8-15.pdf

Wesley and WPI declare also. The former is going to the NCAAs so not really much to say there. Happy for Coach Rob and the Engineers. Hope they get selected and have a good match up.

[NED3Guy]

With three* ECFC teams declared (Husson, Becker, Castleton) all with similar records as WPI it'll be interesting to see if the ECAC people take into account the fact that WPI beat the ECFC champion.

*Norwich is also declared but won the AQ

Edited when I realized Castleton is no longer on the declared list

[Frank Rossi]

As of Monday, November 9th, 2015 (After 5pm EST Filing Deadline):


                          OVERALL  CONF   WEEK 11 vs.        SOS
NORTH REGION
*Western New England (NEFC) 9-0    6-0   Salve Regina   0.386 (227th)

*Salve Regina (NEFC)        7-1    5-1    Western NE    0.432 (216th)

+RPI (LL)                   7-2    5-1      Union       0.594 (9th)
*Cortland St. (E8)          7-2    5-2      Ithaca      0.615 (2nd)
+Alfred (E8)                7-2    5-2  St. John Fisher 0.602 (5th)
Fitchburg St. (MASCAC)      7-2    5-2   Plymouth St.   0.518 (85th)
Husson (ECFC)               6-2    5-1    Mount Ida     0.482 (159th)

+St. John Fisher (E8)       6-3    5-2      Alfred      0.598 (6th)
Bridgewater St. (MASCAC)    6-3    5-2   Mass-Maritime  0.504 (112th)
Becker (ECFC)               6-3    4-2    Anna Maria    0.438 (214th)
Buffalo St. (E8)            6-3    4-3   Brockport St.  0.554 (42nd)
WPI (LL)                    6-3    3-3   Springfield    0.527 (73rd)

Morrisville St. (E8)        5-4    4-4    Alfred St.    0.598 (7th)
Brockport St. (E8)          5-4    3-4    Buffalo St.   0.548 (47th)

#Utica College (E8)         4-5    3-4     Hartwick     0.577 (15th)


SOUTH REGION
^Wesley (NJAC)              8-1    7-1   Wm. Paterson   0.548 (49th)

Westminster (PA) (PAC)      7-2    6-1      Geneva      0.495 (138th)

Carnegie Mellon (PAC)       6-3    5-2  Case West. Res. 0.483 (158th)
Frostburg St. (NJAC)        6-3    5-3     Salisbury    0.457 (191st)
Kean (NJAC)                 6-3    5-3   Montclair St.  0.517 (91st)

#Bethany (PAC)              4-5    3-4    St. Vincent   0.507 (105th)

* - Team controls own destiny for conference's Pool A AQ bid.
+ - Team still mathematically alive for conference's Pool A AQ bid.
^ - Team merits Pool C consideration and still alive for Pool A bid.
# - Team must win to qualify (for 0.500+ W/L% in overall or conf.).

Note: Teams that cannot post the required W/L record or that have already clinched a Pool A AQ bid are not listed above, despite their declarations.

[Frank Rossi]

As of Monday, November 9th, 2015 (After 5pm EST Filing Deadline):


                          OVERALL  CONF   WEEK 11 vs.        SOS
NORTH REGION
*Western New England (NEFC) 9-0    6-0   Salve Regina   0.386 (227th)

*Salve Regina (NEFC)        7-1    5-1    Western NE    0.432 (216th)

+RPI (LL)                   7-2    5-1      Union       0.594 (9th)
*Cortland St. (E8)          7-2    5-2      Ithaca      0.615 (2nd)
+Alfred (E8)                7-2    5-2  St. John Fisher 0.602 (5th)
Fitchburg St. (MASCAC)      7-2    5-2   Plymouth St.   0.518 (85th)
Husson (ECFC)               6-2    5-1    Mount Ida     0.482 (159th)

+St. John Fisher (E8)       6-3    5-2      Alfred      0.598 (6th)
Bridgewater St. (MASCAC)    6-3    5-2   Mass-Maritime  0.504 (112th)
Becker (ECFC)               6-3    4-2    Anna Maria    0.438 (214th)
Buffalo St. (E8)            6-3    4-3   Brockport St.  0.554 (42nd)
WPI (LL)                    6-3    3-3   Springfield    0.527 (73rd)

Morrisville St. (E8)        5-4    4-4    Alfred St.    0.598 (7th)
Brockport St. (E8)          5-4    3-4    Buffalo St.   0.548 (47th)

#Utica College (E8)         4-5    3-4     Hartwick     0.577 (15th)


SOUTH REGION
^Wesley (NJAC)              8-1    7-1   Wm. Paterson   0.548 (49th)

Westminster (PA) (PAC)      7-2    6-1      Geneva      0.495 (138th)

Carnegie Mellon (PAC)       6-3    5-2  Case West. Res. 0.483 (158th)
Frostburg St. (NJAC)        6-3    5-3     Salisbury    0.457 (191st)
Kean (NJAC)                 6-3    5-3   Montclair St.  0.517 (91st)

#Bethany (PAC)              4-5    3-4    St. Vincent   0.507 (105th)

* - Team controls own destiny for conference's Pool A AQ bid.
+ - Team still mathematically alive for conference's Pool A AQ bid.
^ - Team merits Pool C consideration and still alive for Pool A bid.
# - Team must win to qualify (for 0.500+ W/L% in overall or conf.).

Note: Teams that cannot post the required W/L record or that have already clinched a Pool A AQ bid are not listed above, despite their declarations.

For folks using smartphones, here's a version that should look better minus the Week 11 opponent and SOS numbers:

                          OVERALL  CONF
NORTH REGION
*Western New England (NEFC) 9-0    6-0

*Salve Regina (NEFC)        7-1    5-1

+RPI (LL)                   7-2    5-1
*Cortland St. (E8)          7-2    5-2
+Alfred (E8)                7-2    5-2
Fitchburg St. (MASCAC)      7-2    5-2
Husson (ECFC)               6-2    5-1

+St. John Fisher (E8)       6-3    5-2
Bridgewater St. (MASCAC)    6-3    5-2
Becker (ECFC)               6-3    4-2
Buffalo St. (E8)            6-3    4-3
WPI (LL)                    6-3    3-3

Morrisville St. (E8)        5-4    4-4
Brockport St. (E8)          5-4    3-4

#Utica College (E8)         4-5    3-4


SOUTH REGION
^Wesley (NJAC)              8-1    7-1

Westminster (PA) (PAC)      7-2    6-1

Carnegie Mellon (PAC)       6-3    5-2
Frostburg St. (NJAC)        6-3    5-3
Kean (NJAC)                 6-3    5-3

#Bethany (PAC)              4-5    3-4

* - Team controls own destiny for conference's Pool A AQ bid.
+ - Team still mathematically alive for conference's Pool A AQ bid.
^ - Team merits Pool C consideration and still alive for Pool A bid.
# - Team must win to qualify (for 0.500+ W/L% in overall or conf.).

[Saxon73]

The Utica Conf and Overalls records are switched.

No Hobart ??

[Frank Rossi]

The Utica Conf and Overalls records are switched.

No Hobart ??

Thanks for catching that, and no... No Hobart.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Over the last 24 hours, a strange thing happened to the North declarations -- there had been 16 teams listed (and I'll provide a full lineup of eligible declared teams after tomorrow's games as I normally do around this time of season).  However, Cortland, Alfred, Norwich, Western New England, Husson, and Fisher have disappeared from the North's declared teams, leaving just 10 North declarations.

Of course, this could have been a clerical error, as Morrisville's affiliation changed back from "Empire 8" back to "NEAC" in the most recent listing.  However, Wesley appeared for the first time, while Bethany, FDU-Florham, and Westminster disappeared from the South.  There looks to be only three South teams that would qualify presently, as Stevenson should've also withdrawn after yesterday's announcement (but still appears as of tonight).

The drop may be due to the exposure of the new rules that occurred when the MAC/CC announcement was made.  Remember that the $3,000 ticket requirement for all schools would have affected all participants, not just far away schools.  The hotel price and the lack of a revenue split appears to also have turned the stomachs of the withdrawing schools, if I had to guess.

More on this after the games go final Saturday.

ECAC declarations are back to "normal" with new exceptions of MAC/CC etc. 

http://ecacsports.com/ECACD3FBFEST/Declared_Teams_11-6-15.pdf

I can see it now: Buff State vs. Carnegie Mellon. Traveling a combined 871 miles each way to Central Connecticut State.

Having just driven this exact route myself last weekend for a wedding (leaving from within a mile of CMU's campus and driving past Central Connecticut State on I-84)...that is a loooooooooong ride.  I am glad that the Tartans will likely get an ECAC game, but do not envy them the 500-some mile bus ride to Central Connecticut State.

And seeing the MAC-Centennial agreement and loving the idea, I will strongly support the PAC starting their own bowl game agreement with another regional conference to establish a bit of a league rivalry and keep the teams in something resembling the same region.  OAC and/or NCAC would probably be best.

[ITH radio]

Hobart's last ECAC trip was about 10 yrs ago. I think bc of the other sports / campus politics that participation is off the table just like it is with SLU.

[NED3Guy]

Looks like the declared list has changed again, with Castleton added to the list again... With head to head losses to two other declared teams from their conference (Becker and Husson) it's probably irrelevant anyways.

[Frank Rossi]

Looks like the declared list has changed again, with Castleton added to the list again... With head to head losses to two other declared teams from their conference (Becker and Husson) it's probably irrelevant anyways.

The list looks incorrect, as we know WPI filed Monday -- why would they have withdrawn?  Why would Stevenson reappear when they'll be in the MAC/CC Bowls?  Something again went wrong in terms of a clerical error here.

[D3MAFAN]

Looks like the declared list has changed again, with Castleton added to the list again... With head to head losses to two other declared teams from their conference (Becker and Husson) it's probably irrelevant anyways.

The list looks incorrect, as we know WPI filed Monday -- why would they have withdrawn?  Why would Stevenson reappear when they'll be in the MAC/CC Bowls?  Something again went wrong in terms of a clerical error here.

Is there even an option for a MAC/CC team to choose between the MAC/CC Challenge and the ECAC bowl?

[NED3Guy]

Looks like the list is back to what was reported earlier this week.