ECACs

[Frank Rossi]

Kind of surprised neither RPI nor SLU is on the list.

St. Lawrence has since added themselves, as did Husson and Mt. Ida (but the latter cannot host).  Carnegie Mellon withdrew.  I'll amend after this week's action.

[Upstate]

Hope we see some competitive matchups this year...

[Frank Rossi]

ECAC South Eligible Teams (Declared)
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Lebanon Valley (7-1/6-1) (MAC Leader)
 
Wesley (6-2/0-0) (Pool B Possibility)

Washington & Jefferson (7-2/6-1)
Waynesburg (7-2/5-2)
Muhlenberg (7-2/6-2)

Delaware Valley (6-3/5-3) SOS: 0.521
Albright (6-3/5-3) SOS: 0.463
Juniata (6-3/5-3) SOS: 0.516

Cortland (5-4/5-2) SOS: 0.508
Salisbury  (5-4/4-2) SOS: 0.607
Franklin & Marshall (5-4/5-3) SOS: 0.512
Catholic (5-4/2-4) SOS: 0.499

Wilkes (4-5/3-5)
Stevenson (4-5/3-5)

Bethany (3-6/3-4)

Likely Scenarios: Wesley should be a Pool B selection with the loss of Texas Lutheran.  As such, if LebVal wins Saturday vs. Albright, the two-loss teams will host the three-loss teams and one four-loss team.  Any loss by another three-loss team would likely engage two four-loss teams unless LebVal does not win the MAC.  Currently, Salisbury is the likely pick if any four-loss team is chosen, based on a much higher SOS.


ECAC North Eligible Teams (Declared)
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Framingham State (7-1/6-0) (Pool B Possibility)

Endicott (7-2/6-0) (NEFC Co-Leader) SOS: 0.410
Salve Regina (7-2/6-0) (NEFC Co-Leader) SOS: 0.422

Alfred (7-2/5-1) SOS: 0.539
St. John Fisher (7-2/4-2) SOS: 0.568
Western Connecticut (6-2/5-2) SOS: 0.487

Norwich (6-3/5-1) SOS: 0.481
SUNY-Brockport (6-3/5-1) SOS: 0.535
St. Lawrence (6-3/4-2) SOS: 0.528
MIT (5-3/3-3) SOS: 0.417
Springfield (5-3/2-3) SOS: 0.537
USMMA (4-3/1-3) SOS: 0.448

Husson (5-4/4-2)
Fitchburg State (5-4/4-3)
Mass. Maritime (5-4/3-4)
Hartwick (5-4/2-4)

Buffalo State (5-5/3-4)
SUNY-Maritime (4-5/4-2)
Mount Ida (4-5/3-3)

Likely Scenarios: Alfred plays Fisher, but the loser likely will be the first three-loss team picked.  The loser of Endicott/Salve will be at risk.  USMMA plays St. Lawrence, also, meaning one less three-loss team will exist next week.  As you can see, if Framingham State does win a Pool B bid (which is likely with their present SOS of 0.574), Alfred and Fisher should both get bids and then three other three-loss teams will be selected, assuming WestConn wins.  As many as three three-loss teams won't make a game, assuming Framingham makes the NCAAs.

[Upstate]

Will the combined score differential of AU vs random New England team and SJF vs random New England team in the ECAC games exceed 80?

[AUKaz00]

Will the combined score differential of AU vs random New England team and SJF vs random New England team in the ECAC games exceed 80?

I think I'd take the under.  I could see 60, but 80 might be a stretch.  Also, the winner of the Courage Bowl could be deflated playing in an ECAC instead of the dance, though both teams should expect that fate already.

[dlippiel]

Dlip would definitely go with the under here. Not necessarily because of team strength but more so players struggling to get up for the game. On the other hand for the New England teams this will be a huge opportunity to prove themselves so Dlip has no questions about their focus and intensity. It will be a busy week for both the Alfred and Fisher coaches keeping their players motivated.

[AUPepBand]

Will the combined score differential of AU vs random New England team and SJF vs random New England team in the ECAC games exceed 80?

Nada. Should AU get way up, Murray does what he can to keep the score respectable. Case in point, the SUNY Maritime game was 50-0 at halftime and in the second half it was a dull offensive scheme ... only second half TD was a pick-6.

Haven't looked at Castleton State-Fisher boxscore but assuming the Cardinals got up big in the first half and coasted in the second in the 63-7 win.

On Saxon Warriors!

[Upstate]

Yeah Fisher was up 35-0 with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter...

They scored with 15 seconds left to make it 42-0...

Castleton fumbled the ensuing kickoff at their own 7 yd line, a pre snap illegal procedure penalty put the ball on the 12 and Kramer tossed a TD with 2 second left to make it 49-0...

They put their back ups in to start the 3rd and made it 63-0 on two drives (21 plays combined, 3 passes only 1 complete for 8yds)...

They did what they could to keep the ball on the ground and the clock moving but it almost went to 70 as a freshman RB popped a 57yd run from Fishers own 14yd line but was pushed out of bounds on their last possession...

[boobyhasgameyo]

I'd like for the ECAC North and South teams to be able to mix it up against each other.  Soooo boring having to watch a bowl game against a team like Castleton State.  Wouldn't it be great to watch Fisher take on a team like Wesley in an ECAC game? 

Although I should also say that I don't know how the ECAC's actually work.  Maybe the North and South do mix it up?  I remember an ECAC game between Fisher and Cortland a few years back and I see they are listed as a South team. 

[Frank Rossi]

Quick note:  St. Lawrence has withdrawn from consideration for the ECACs.

[Upstate]

Quick note:  St. Lawrence has withdrawn from consideration for the ECACs.

Great...

One more New England team jumps into the ECACs...

Is it possible that a team can decide what region they want to declare for???

[Frank Rossi]

Quick note:  St. Lawrence has withdrawn from consideration for the ECACs.

Great...

One more New England team jumps into the ECACs...

Is it possible that a team can decide what region they want to declare for???

Well, not necessarily true, since MMA and SLU both have three losses and play this weekend.  If SLU wins, then you're right.  The answer is no, the teams are geographically separated already by the ECAC.  Cortland's location has been sort of inconsistent since they joined the NJAC -- but the Committee has been more responsible for that than the school itself.

[lewdogg11]

Quick note:  St. Lawrence has withdrawn from consideration for the ECACs.

I don't really understand the thinking here.  There's a reason why this program can't get better than mediocre.  Playing an extra game would be very beneficial for underclassmen and i'm sure coveted by seniors.  Not to say they'd even be chosen, but to withdraw is foolish to me.

If this decision is by the School Administration, shame on them, if by the coaches, shame on them, and if by the players...well, I don't have to say much there...

[Frank Rossi]

Quick note:  St. Lawrence has withdrawn from consideration for the ECACs.

I don't really understand the thinking here.  There's a reason why this program can't get better than mediocre.  Playing an extra game would be very beneficial for underclassmen and i'm sure coveted by seniors.  Not to say they'd even be chosen, but to withdraw is foolish to me.

If this decision is by the School Administration, shame on them, if by the coaches, shame on them, and if by the players...well, I don't have to say much there...

I think some of these schools file only if they have a confidence level that they may be able to host the game, and thus, avoid the travel costs (I'm not sure if there is any level of cost sharing -- just revenue sharing that probably isn't enough to cover the costs of both teams).  It's obvious that SLU wouldn't host a game now (95% probability), so they didn't want to have to drive to New England and spend money on an overnight.  That's only my guess.

[lewdogg11]

Quick note:  St. Lawrence has withdrawn from consideration for the ECACs.

I don't really understand the thinking here.  There's a reason why this program can't get better than mediocre.  Playing an extra game would be very beneficial for underclassmen and i'm sure coveted by seniors.  Not to say they'd even be chosen, but to withdraw is foolish to me.

If this decision is by the School Administration, shame on them, if by the coaches, shame on them, and if by the players...well, I don't have to say much there...

I think some of these schools file only if they have a confidence level that they may be able to host the game, and thus, avoid the travel costs (I'm not sure if there is any level of cost sharing -- just revenue sharing that probably isn't enough to cover the costs of both teams).  It's obvious that SLU wouldn't host a game now (95% probability), so they didn't want to have to drive to New England and spend money on an overnight.  That's only my guess.

I'm sure you're 100% right but its still a sad excuse especially when the going tuition rate at St. Lawrence is $46K.