ECACs

['gro]

Me thinks the blitzing defense of Alfred may give RPI problems.  Better hit the film room coaches...

[redswarm81]

This Alfred-RPI contest has all the makings of a "Super ECAC Championship" as the Saxons are unbeaten in its six ECAC Championship appearances, including four titles during the past four seasons, while host RPI is 7-0 in ECAC title games.

RPI and Alfred were both members of the former Independent College Athletic Conference (ICAC) when they last competed on the football field. The ICAC did not impose mandatory scheduling of conference foes, thus awarding "championships" to teams with a 3-0 or sometimes 2-1 conference record. Former members included Hobart, Union, St. Lawrence, RPI, RIT, Clarkson, Ithaca and Alfred.

Pep remembers some wild games with RPI in the past and can only expect that Saterday's game could be pretty wild as well. The Saxons are banged up from their skirmish with those pesky St. John Fisher Cardinals but have never been a squad to "phone it in." Pep will be working to muster a pep band to hit the road very early Saturday morning.

I always chuckled at the irony in the title "Independent College Athletic Conference."

In RS81's day--which was during the days of the ICAC, RPI did not play Alfred or Ithaca in football.  RIT ended football operations around noon of RS81's day.  Clarkson had long since shut down its football program.

So I never played football against Alfred, but I ran in a heck of a lot of track meets against them (both Al and Fred  ).  Brian O'Neill, consensus All-American safety for Alfred, was an acquaintance--good guy, amazing athlete once he filled out--after his freshman year.

[AUKaz00]

This Alfred-RPI contest has all the makings of a "Super ECAC Championship" as the Saxons are unbeaten in its six ECAC Championship appearances, including four titles during the past four seasons, while host RPI is 7-0 in ECAC title games.

RPI and Alfred were both members of the former Independent College Athletic Conference (ICAC) when they last competed on the football field. The ICAC did not impose mandatory scheduling of conference foes, thus awarding "championships" to teams with a 3-0 or sometimes 2-1 conference record. Former members included Hobart, Union, St. Lawrence, RPI, RIT, Clarkson, Ithaca and Alfred.

Pep remembers some wild games with RPI in the past and can only expect that Saterday's game could be pretty wild as well. The Saxons are banged up from their skirmish with those pesky St. John Fisher Cardinals but have never been a squad to "phone it in." Pep will be working to muster a pep band to hit the road very early Saturday morning.

I will probably be there too, Pep... I'm sure I will be able to find you with your band!

It doesn't appear that Pep will be able to muster much of a band for this Saterday as some pep band members also perform in the University's Concert Band (concert at 8 p.m. Friday, Nov. 21) and AU's Jazz Band (concert at 7 p.m. Saturday, Nov. 22). Nevertheless, Pep will see if some of Mayberry's homeless people can hop on the bandwagon and pick up some pieces on the five-hour trip in order to make some noise at '86 Field's Last Hurrah!!

On Saxon Warriors!

Pep and I are working the phones to line up a band for saterday.  We'll have to forgo our intended trip to Cortaca II, but it will be nice to see the last game at '86.  Hopefully the Saxons can go 3-0 against the LL this year!

On Saxon Warriors!

[pg04]

Here are all the match-ups courtesy of Matt Levy, Delaware Valley Sports Information Director Extraordinaire...

South Atlantic: Kean at DVC
Southeast: Catholic at Johns Hopkins
Southwest: Salisbury at Moravian
The new South Central: Albright at Montclair State

Northeast is St. John Fisher at Husson
North Atlantic: Alfred at RPI
Northwest is: Brockport at Hartwick

All are 12 p.m. kickoffs.

82 hasn't a clue about what teams were eligible/considered?  Any surprises here?

Congrats to Fisher!  I fortunately won my last collegiate game in '95 ag Theil College.  In some ways (not many) that lessened the sting of not getting the ECAC nod.  So I think I can imagine how this feels like a life-rope to those seniors who were crushed on Sat. at Merrill. 

Take advantage of the opportunity to win your last game....that will last forever when the disappointment of the failed expectations in 2008 is gone 10 years from now!

Yes -- the surprise was that even though they added a fourth game in order to keep the NJAC teams in the ECAC South region, Steve Bamford screwed Union over for the third time in 13 years by allowing Brockport to be considered as an ECAC North team.  The ECAC needs to abide by its own rules and publications at some point.

Clearly than Steve Bamford is a ****head!

I don't see it that way.   

[fishfan]

Fisher plays in the east region.

[theoriginalupstate]

Fisher plays in the east region.

And the sky is blue...

whats your point?

[fishfan]

Where is Bangor Maine, I need to send directions to all the Fisher Boo birds .

[dlippiel]

Here are all the match-ups courtesy of Matt Levy, Delaware Valley Sports Information Director Extraordinaire...

South Atlantic: Kean at DVC
Southeast: Catholic at Johns Hopkins
Southwest: Salisbury at Moravian
The new South Central: Albright at Montclair State

Northeast is St. John Fisher at Husson
North Atlantic: Alfred at RPI
Northwest is: Brockport at Hartwick

All are 12 p.m. kickoffs.

82 hasn't a clue about what teams were eligible/considered?  Any surprises here?

Congrats to Fisher!  I fortunately won my last collegiate game in '95 ag Theil College.  In some ways (not many) that lessened the sting of not getting the ECAC nod.  So I think I can imagine how this feels like a life-rope to those seniors who were crushed on Sat. at Merrill. 

Take advantage of the opportunity to win your last game....that will last forever when the disappointment of the failed expectations in 2008 is gone 10 years from now!

Yes -- the surprise was that even though they added a fourth game in order to keep the NJAC teams in the ECAC South region, Steve Bamford screwed Union over for the third time in 13 years by allowing Brockport to be considered as an ECAC North team.  The ECAC needs to abide by its own rules and publications at some point.

Clearly than Steve Bamford is a ****head!

I don't see it that way.   

I understand but I tend to listen to Frank and feel he is quite knowledgeable when it comes to specifics like ecac rules for example. So if this Steve did not follow regulations that the ecac had in place I think he is a ****head. If he did follow all regulations and chose accordingly then he is not, simple and sweet. I honestly felt the Dutchmen didn't really deserve a bid because of their losses to WPI and Rochester. I would have still loved to see them get a bid, especially for the seniors. I love the Dutch! Next year baby we are coming on with a storm!

[fishfan]

Fisher seniors are not hangig their heads, the underclassmen are.

[SJFF82]

Fisher seniors are not hangig their heads, the underclassmen are.

Please change your name to: [insert son's name here] fan.  fishfan is a bit of a stretch at this point.

[Frank Rossi]

Fisher seniors are not hangig their heads, the underclassmen are.

Here we go again... With all due respect to my friend Mark Robinson... Fisher fans are becoming more and more annoying by the day with this self-defeating brutality on these boards.

[fishfan]

FISHFAN RULES !

[fishfan]

Really you guys need to get a life! My son has long been gone From Fisher.  My grandkids are closing in.  GO FISHER!

[Frank Rossi]

Really you guys need to get a life! My son has long been gone From Fisher.  My grandkids are closing in.  GO FISHER!

Excuse me, Sir, but...

WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!

[Bombers798891]

Fisher seniors are not hangig their heads, the underclassmen are.

Seriously man, just knock it off. Your comments are rarely constructive, just petty little shots at players and coaches. You make your fellow SJF fans look bad because we assume all fans are like you. There's a line from my favorite movie that goes something like this:

"How do you have patience for people who claim they love [SJF], but clearly can't stand [SJF players and coaches]?"

Like, what's the deal, Mark Robinson shook your hand once and you became so convinced that his God-like appearance in SJF meant that there would never be dark days again? So now you think SJF has this divine right to go 12-2 every season and get to Alliance, because hey, who wants to go back as far as 2001 and remember when the team was terrible and a walking doormat for good teams in the region? Anything less than a trip to the NCAA semis is a disgrace to the proud tradition of SJF football and the coaches and underclassmen should hide in shame closets till the offseason?

SJF is a classy program with great kids and, this season nonwithstanding, have been a solid team for the past 4-5 years. Well guess what? Unless you're MUC, you have down years. Sometimes you miss the playoffs. If you're so convinced everyone is so inept up there, get off these boards and apply for a coaching position. Most SJF fans are as frustrated as you are about the 6-4 season, but tough as they are on the team, none of them are unrelentingly negative and critical like you are. Grow up.

By the way, don't think I haven't forgotten about your nice little "Some of us have higher expectations than losing to Cortland and going to the ECAC's every year" comment about Ithaca. We'll be thinking of you as we host an NCAA game. Enjoy Maine