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Senor RedTackle

Here's an alternate perspective:

Teams that adopt a "spread" do so because they don't have many game changers and maybe wouldn't match up well in a more traditional offense. In RPI's case, they went to the spread way back when because they didn't have an Oline and they had a soph QB (dan cole) with a decent arm and good decision making...and they didn't want him to get killed. Was he the 2nd coming when they put that offense in? No..he didn't start as a Fr and no one had the crystal ball to forsee what that offense would turn into at RPI.

In RTs opinion, its a tough call when to install a new O. Rt doesn't know enough about fisher's talent. However, that offense takes intelligence at the qb spot. Even if you don't have "game changing" physical skill, you can be successful if you are intelligent and accurate

Jonny Utah

Quote from: 'gro on November 18, 2008, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 18, 2008, 06:34:32 PM
Unless SJF gets some kids in from the inner city or down south this offense will be a failure again next year...

Yeah, those guys are good.


St. John Fisher holds open football tryouts in 2009


SJF's "southern" tryouts....

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 18, 2008, 06:50:23 PM

I can see changing things up, but if you dont have "game changing" QB or RB, wouldnt a spread offense be the perfect thing to run?

I mean, the spread is the new triple option/flex bone, where if you dont have the size or speed on offense, you can run this offensive and "outcoach" the other team by blocking 5-5.  And its a great offense if you do have the best talent (Florida)

I dont know how fast SJFs QB is (you obviously need a QB with some speed to run it) but maybe the coaches thought this was sort of a rebuilding year and/or couldnt run what they have been running with the players they had this year?

I do agree with you about the changing it up issue.  Many coaches have the  philosphy that the spread is to run it 100% of the time 100% no-huddle.  This system does work for many teams.  I like the way MUC did it.  They had a package where they ran some spread, but they had 3-4 other packages where they ran other things.  I think that is the way to go, and I think that is what you were looking for this year.

I went through this before but here it goes again...

There was no threat from their Tebow guy (Robbie Brown) either he was injured or he'd take the snap and run lateral and gain a yard...

But there was no play action threat all year, there was no threat from bootlegs at all.  You get that inside/outside zone plays going from under center and use the Boot and Playaction effectively like PARKS used too the run and pass games both benefit.  Thats the frustrating part, they took their bread and butter and burnt it to a crisp.  

Tim Bailey does not turn the ball over as much as he did this year if they were running the 2006/2007 offenses.  

The whole season was filled with mind boggling plays and schemes.  IE, vs Salisbury.  They go empty with a RB in the slot, motion him back across the O-line and then roll out away from the motion leaving the RB (Carlton) left to block an All American DE (Chandler) needless to say Carlton didnt stand a chance and Bailey still was pressured and hit every time they did so...

It was a case of not putting these guys in positions to be successful all season long and that is the frustrating part...


lewdogg11

Since I can't quotes anyone to the likes of Immanuel Kant, I will quote the recently LLPP inducted honorary member, Mike Singletary, using the grill of Marshawn Lynch...


I'm Samurai Mike I stop'em cold.
Part of the defense, big and bold,
I've been jammin' for quite a while,
Doin' what's right and settin' the style,
Give me a chance, I'll rock you good,
Nobody messin' in my neighborhood.
I didn't come here lookin' for trouble,
I just came to do The Super Bowl Shuffle





Findtheball

 ugly grill ! had a better looking one on my '65 Fairlane
for the love of the game

Jonny Utah

seeing nolinenoglorys posts around the east region reminds me of when my 2 year old nephew runs into the living room with no pants on and trys to jump up on everyones lap.

Hilarious.

Findtheball

 Thats right JU and I was doing the Mushroom stamp back then too, actually thats when I started at your cousins house, hilarious
for the love of the game

fisheralum91

is anybody else uncomfortable on this board now?
upstate- wow-- even for you --wow.

i am speechless.
and embarrassed.

wow

Frank Rossi

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 18, 2008, 07:17:40 PM
is anybody else uncomfortable on this board now?
upstate- wow-- even for you --wow.

i am speechless.
and embarrassed.

wow

Uncomfortable how, though???

fisheralum91

frank- id rather not go down that road- tho stereo typing is a start

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 18, 2008, 07:17:40 PM
is anybody else uncomfortable on this board now?
upstate- wow-- even for you --wow.

i am speechless.
and embarrassed.

wow

God what did I say now...

superman57

can we get another cheez it break...

Listen, a game is a game... am I puzzled at some of Fisher's choices offensively yes, but maybe the decision to make some of those calls was that they weren't comfortable not getting tricky, so until Paul Vosburgh says that Coach Park is a moron and has no clue what he is doing, I'm giving them all the benefit of the doubt...
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

Frank Rossi

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 18, 2008, 07:22:09 PM
frank- id rather not go down that road- tho stereo typing is a start

Gotcha.  Stereotyping isn't cool -- it's probably a news flash to Robby, Stepnick and Kramer that they were "Inner City" or "Deep South" kids.

fisheralum91

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
thanks for the levity frank

superman57

Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 18, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 18, 2008, 07:22:09 PM
frank- id rather not go down that road- tho stereo typing is a start

Gotcha.  Stereotyping isn't cool -- it's probably a news flash to Robby, Stepnick and Kramer that they were "Inner City" or "Deep South" kids.


Deep South=Upstate Farm Country
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.