WBB: NESCAC

Started by Senator Frost, March 12, 2005, 09:18:11 AM

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cantdothat

Veilleux's Dad, Gary was assistant coach @ Colby with the Men's Program under former Coach Dick Whitmore in the early 1970's.

remsleep

Just another object lesson to all you young folks out there working hard to advance in your profession....whether your name is Clancy or Veilleux or Blodgett or Pemper.....sooner or later you will learn....NEVER trust your employer.  Never.  Make your best deal going in because your sure won't get it on the way out.

PostPlay

Since we are on the subject of coaches, anyone care to offer a view of the league's coaches?  Who are the best? I know it is easy to look at overall records and say Coach G is the best, and he may be, but are there some other coaches in the league who do well with less talent? Or their teams play hard every night and are very sound?  On the other hand, are there any coaches who appear to be outmatched? 

sumfun

Guess others don't want to touch this any more than I do.  Feels like G.P. is the gold standard to which all others will be compared.  For that reason, I can see why Colby might be looking for someone with more experience, even though I think Clancy deserves a shot.

farmboy

Coach G indeed.

Other colleges would do well to invite Coach G to a chat, look at his style, review films with him, and then, once they know what they should be looking for...only then should they go hunting for a new coach.  In a way there are different styles for sure, but the basics are the basics.  I have said this before, today this is Women's basketball...time for the girl basketball coaches to retire.

wbbhoopsfan

Word out of Augusta is that Julie Veilleux is the new Colby coach and interim Clancy will not be retained.  Whoever said not to trust your employer was right on this one.  A coach wins 24 games and advances in NCAA Tournament and isn't hired.  I thought athletics wasn't important at D. III/NESCAC level?

sumfun

I'm sorry for Clancy, but not surprised on many fronts.  I disagree as NESCAC is very competitve and I think Colby wants to be able to compete and recruit against Amherst and consistently beat their Maine rivals.

MVP

hey kudos to coach G and the Amherst team. We all know it is players talent that wins championships.
No debate. If you had a squad of misfits, the team would not be successful no matter how good the coach is. Question is, how much credit do you want to give a coach for that aspect of the program. Let's judge coach G after half a dozen years.

Maine 1

response to a couple of items

In terms of NESCAC Coaches, Gromacki is far and away the best Coach--having watch his teams over the past 3-4 years, although he has talent, the talent differential on his team versus some of the other top NESCAC teams was not that great, but his teams played much better together--that is coaching.

On  the Colby job, I don't know much about the new Coach, but I have to guess the recruiting aspect was a potentially key differentiator.

MVP

does anybody know if there are game tapes or video of  NCAA  the 2011 Elite Eight weekend games, march 11 & 12th at Amherst that you can purchase?

sumfun

MVP - I doubt that there are good tapes of the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 games as Amherst was having video troubles that weekend as evidenced by previous chatter on these boards.

Also just read bio on "Coaching Carousel" on D3 Hoops.  Hard to fault Colby for going with the coach that has worked with Pemper for all those years while being part of the success at Bowdoin and turn around at Navy.

amh63

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It is interesting to note that the postings on this board have focused in the Colby WBB vacancy while on the MBB side the postings have dealt mainly on the new players to arrive on the conference teams.  There has been no chatter on the Colby MBB coach vacancy.
Likewise, there is no chatter on this board on any future conference players.  Does anyone know of new players coming into the conference?   It is after 1 May, the deadline for new students to notify the schools of their decisions to attend.  Of course, most of the future players would have been directed to apply ED.
I find the differences between the two boards most interesting.   Even more so with the release of info from the coaches/schools, etc.

MVP

ok, thank you SUMFUN. If there is anybody out there that has copies of the games, please post here. It's a shame that it is so much trouble getting game tapes.

PostPlay

As for Freshmen incoming to NESCAC teams, there are 2 from the Boston area I am aware of:

1.  Kellie MacDonald (Forward-In Eastern Mass Top 10) was called "the ultimate teammate" by her coach earlier this season.  She led her Danvers team in just about every category...scoring rebounding blocks, field goal and free throw percentage...you name it...she did it.  She scored over 14 PPG this year and also became only the 3rd female in Danvers history to go over the 1,000 point barrier for her career...kid has a great head on her shoulders as well as she heads off to play at Williams the next 4 years.
2.  Molly Brown (Guard-In Eastern MassTop 25) can flat out shoot the rock especially behind the 3 point arc.  She scored almost 23 a game this year with 8 boards and 4 assists each night...She was named a Globe and Herald all scholastic and finished her career with 1,167 points.  The night she scored her 1,000th point she did it in style going for 33 that night.  Coach Jim Murphy at Bates has to be smiling with thoughts of her playing ball there the next 4 seasons.

FYI...the recruiting web site this was pulled from is generally very reliable.  The guy who runs it sees a ton of games and knows talent.  And the fact they are both ranked in the Top 25 in Eastern Mass means they are very good players.


amh63

Thank you Postplay!  Can you share the local website....for Eastern Mass.?
Amherst's three players in last year's class were from Ill., Md. and NH (via a transfer).  Amherst needs a "center" since the only center listed for next year is also an outside threat and a player that doesn't play 40 minutes and is not a true inside player.  I am curious to see if Coach G. will get another transfer player as he has the past two years.  Just random thoughts...really.