WBB: NESCAC

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saratoga

Actually, I'm pulling for a Bowdoin/Scranton rematch...then Springfield can really host a party.

simon

I hardly think a ten point game was an easy win!!!!!! However, congrats to Bowdoin.  Before people go bad mouthing the coaches maybe you should try and coach and see how hard it is. Until you have a degree in coaching then you shouldn't use your post to add personal attacks. Its pretty classless.

nescac hoops

remsleep,
i still disagree with your statement regarding williams having basketball players. i'd say maggie miller, #15 and #14 (stetson?) are really true bball players. the williams point guard isn't a "bball player", but is one of my favorite pt. guards.....smart, leads team, good passer with a lot of assists and very few turnovers, and plays great defense....you can't ask much more from a true point guard. #21 (omalley) has the size i would like to see but doesn't nearly have the skill of miller, however miller doesn't have the physical size of omalley. i'm not talking about height, i'm talking physical strength. if miller had omalley's strength and omalley had miller's skill, they would be a VERY scary tandom. however, as it concerns their post play, they just have a great player in miller down under who can sometimes be overpowered by physically stonger opponents. admittingly, i haven't seen them a whole lot since their freshman season, but have seen them enough over the last 3 years to know.
manning has never been my favorite. word on the street is that she is a good scouter of other teams and prepares her team well but when it comes to making adjustments (if the opposing team does things outside the scouting report), she just can't make them. i don't think she is a "quick thinking" coach. if you told her the day before that at the 11 minute mark of the second half that miller was going to pick up her fourth foul and the defense was going to go back to man-to-man defense, then i think she could make a good, appropriate adjustment when she has time to think about it. unfortunately, that doesn't happen in a real basketball game. kudos to the polar bears, they always seem to get the job done even if it isn't pretty. i took bowdoin by 8 and they won by 10...i wish my predictions were that close to those i made on football this past weekend.

Balder Eagle

How will the Lady Mariners do against The Polar Bears this Wed. ?

usmhoops1

Should be a competitive game but Bowdoin by  10+. 

feces monkey

Quote from: simon on January 13, 2007, 06:33:05 PM
Before people go bad mouthing the coaches maybe you should try and coach and see how hard it is. Until you have a degree in coaching then you shouldn't use your post to add personal attacks.

One does not need a degree in meteorology to know it's raining, nor does one need a 'degree in coaching' to criticize a coach. With that being said, it's pretty transparent that remsleep has, for whatever reason, an axe to grind with the Williams coach. The Williams coach's regular season and postseason records speak for themselves.

Bowdoin navigated the four game/five day course with pretty high marks. Flaherty has locked up player of the year status. Perhaps I should come to grips with how average the Bobcats are, but Bates losing by 14 to Amherst is stunning. I still think the Polar Bears will have a hard time winning in Lewiston.

I am disappointed that Hope lost. I was looking forward to seeing my prediction of Hope overtaking the Polar Bears in the rankings come true (it was getting real close) in order to highlight the silliness of an SID-driven poll. I guess I'll have to wait until next year (unless I'm in store for a treat this week).

simon

Yes Feces I will agree with you maybe what I should of said was until one coaches and is put in similiar situation they shouldn't throw out personal attacks. Even if they never coach they shouldn't. I just like the fact that the board for the most part is about statistics and great basketball conversation and there isn't any need to throw out personal attacks thats all.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: feces monkey on January 15, 2007, 05:48:39 PM
I am disappointed that Hope lost. I was looking forward to seeing my prediction of Hope overtaking the Polar Bears in the rankings come true (it was getting real close) in order to highlight the silliness of an SID-driven poll. I guess I'll have to wait until next year (unless I'm in store for a treat this week).

I know you hate our poll, but only eight of the 25 voters are SIDs. Gotta find another reason to hate on us other than that.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

mrmike88

WAMH has our first women's basketball broadcast of the season Tuesday.  We'll have the Amherst-Wesleyan game live on the air.  Pre-game starts at 4:55, game at 5:00.

http://wamh.amherst.edu/

Following the women's game, we'll have the 7:00 Amherst-Elms men's game.

feces monkey

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2007, 11:36:39 PM
I know you hate our poll, but only eight of the 25 voters are SIDs. Gotta find another reason to hate on us other than that.

I'm more frustrated with your poll than hateful of it. At a fundamental level -- publicizing Division III women's basketball -- I'm appreciative of your poll. However, I think you are missing opportunities to increase its legitimacy, and thus its value. Hence, frustration.

And having nearly a third of your electorate as SIDs is not a negligible percentage.

nescac hoops

williams lost votes this week for losing a competitive game to the #1 ranked team in the country and in a gym that no visiting team has won in since ben franklin invented the light bulb.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: feces monkey on January 16, 2007, 02:16:50 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2007, 11:36:39 PM
I know you hate our poll, but only eight of the 25 voters are SIDs. Gotta find another reason to hate on us other than that.

I'm more frustrated with your poll than hateful of it. At a fundamental level -- publicizing Division III women's basketball -- I'm appreciative of your poll. However, I think you are missing opportunities to increase its legitimacy, and thus its value. Hence, frustration.

And having nearly a third of your electorate as SIDs is not a negligible percentage.

I think if you knew the amount of information the voters get each week you would understand that we do work very hard to educate the "electorate." It's something I picked up while working at USA Today, helping manage the D-I baseball coaches' poll.  In the mid-90s, there was almost no coverage of D-I baseball on TV and informing the voters was paramount.

I'm not convinced that eliminating SIDs would make the poll better. I actually find -- in general -- the SIDs to be less biased toward their own conference than the coaches are.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

feces monkey

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 17, 2007, 12:30:13 AM
I think if you knew the amount of information the voters get each week you would understand that we do work very hard to educate the "electorate."

I think if I knew simply who the voters were, it would go a long way in alleviating some of my concerns about the poll (proportional regional representation, credentials, etc.). Transparency of voters is paramount to legitimacy in my eyes.

If I remember correctly (and please correct me if I'm wrong), you feel transparency would lead to lobbying of the voters. Why would this happen more with your poll than others?

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 17, 2007, 12:30:13 AM
I'm not convinced that eliminating SIDs would make the poll better. I actually find -- in general -- the SIDs to be less biased toward their own conference than the coaches are.

You feel this way because you have incorporated your own bias ("I...find") into the discussion. Groupthink is not a positive for a poll -- it leads to a static entity unable to flow with current trends.

Pat Coleman

Well, I'm sorry you feel that way -- I have voted on polls and been inundated with junk because of it, so for that reason I do not release the voter names.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Balder Eagle

POLAR BEAR SCOREBOARD

Jan. 17 W. B'ball vs. ME-Maritime L 51-49

http://www.bowdoin.edu/athletics/