University Athletic Association

newtonnancy · February 09, 2007, 11:48:09 AM

Any thoughts on this, I would say that should either or both Chicago and Brandeis lose a game this weekend they would be on the outside looking in for an NCAA BID, especially considering both are on the road the final game of the season at Wash U and NYU respectively.

deiscanton · February 09, 2007, 12:00:00 PM

Chicago is home against Case and Emory this weekend-- the most favorable home pairing of the UAA. Chicago has to get 2 wins out of this weekend before the road trip next weekend to Carnegie Mellon and Rochester. The Chicago road games at Rochester and Wash U will be difficult ones for the Maroons to win, although Chicago can win at Rochester if the Chicago offense is back up to its best performance.

Brandeis hosts Carnegie Mellon tonight and Rochester on Sunday. Brandeis needs to win both games at home this weekend, with the Rochester game the more difficult of the two. After that, Brandeis goes to Emory (in Atlanta, Emory is 2-1 vs. Brandeis at WoodPEC under coach Thomaskutty), and Case before the final game at NYU on NYU's Senior Day.

If history is any guide, I don't like being on the bubble....

pabegg · February 09, 2007, 01:13:40 PM

Quote from: newtonnancy on February 09, 2007, 11:48:09 AM
Any thoughts on this, I would say that should either or both Chicago and Brandeis lose a game this weekend they would be on the outside looking in for an NCAA BID, especially considering both are on the road the final game of the season at Wash U and NYU respectively.

Pat Coleman · February 10, 2007, 02:54:45 AM

Nice piece about Nancy Fahey and Wash U on NBCSports.com.

http://www.nbcsports.com/cbk/1018779/detail.html

Pass it along.

Hoop Dreams · February 10, 2007, 10:03:40 PM

Interesting article.

Even as a UChicago fan, I have nothing but respect for Coach Fahey and the Bears. Certainly have witnessed a fair share of beatdowns at the hands of Wash U over the years... that's what made the win at Ratner in January so sweet.

Nice to see the Bears bounce back and have a strong season after that slow start. The UAA just wouldn't be the same if Wash U weren't in the race. With Parker, McFarlin and Schell, there is a lot of talent there. If the Bears do make postseason play, they will not be an easy out.

newtonnancy · February 11, 2007, 06:39:03 PM

OK...

I Surrender!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess this team isn't as good as it looked early, god, it the bad decisions that I don't understand. Everybody thinks they are Michael Jordan. Travel, offensives ITS A TEAM GAME.

It seems to be the trend, as I look at box scores from not just UC but around the UAA, assists seem down and shooting percentages look like Cr*p for the most part and that indicates that a lot of these games are like the one I saw today. I love the women's game because it is played below the rim and like I remember growing up. I understand that these athletes are getting better but I still think some of these games are lost because players get out of control.

Also, anyone know why when there is a foul on a shot it is NOT considered a shot taken? I saw several TERRIBLE shots forced today and when the shooter gets fouled on theses horrific shots I was told today they don't count againt shooting percentage, but if it goes in and is a 3 or 4 point play it does count. Just doesn't sound right.

newtonnancy · February 11, 2007, 06:48:34 PM

Also,

I am leaning toward the point a friend made who has gone to games with me and seen not only UC but Brandeis, NYU, Chicago, Wash U and now Emory, that the UAA is DOWN this year and that as a whole the UAA is NOT better top to bottom as some people have said. His point was that the top teams Wash U, NYU, Rochester and Brandeis and also UC are not as good as their respective teams last year (I disagree as I think UC is better, but it is tough to argue the others mentioned are as good as last year). Also, he feels Emory is not as strong as last year either saying they are must weaker in the low post, since I did not see Emory last season I don't know.....

Any thoughts on the above

newtonnancy · February 11, 2007, 06:51:59 PM

Replace Rochester in the body of the paragrah for Chicago

benjgc · February 11, 2007, 08:14:37 PM

Quote from: newtonnancy on February 04, 2007, 07:22:37 PM
Just to make sure I wasn't talking out of my butt, I went back and checked the stats and I again say you can't use Capra for any excuse, she folds against tough competition, today she was 4-17, Friday against UC she was 4-12, last Sunday against UC 1-13, last Friday against Wash U 3-11. Thats 12-53, and she is still shooting 40% on the year....

Capra is one of those players that likes to chuck it up, good shot or bad, I agree you need to defend a kid like that but a little defense against that type of player goes a long way.

Jaime Capra on February 7, 2007 vs. Rochester Yellowjackets (18-3, D3Hoops.com #6):

31 PTS., 9/20 FG, 13/15 FT, 12 REB, 4 A, 2 ST

31 against the #6 team in the country. That ain't folding...that's rising to the occasion.

Pat Coleman · February 11, 2007, 08:18:13 PM

Quote from: newtonnancy on February 11, 2007, 06:39:03 PM
Also, anyone know why when there is a foul on a shot it is NOT considered a shot taken? I saw several TERRIBLE shots forced today and when the shooter gets fouled on theses horrific shots I was told today they don't count againt shooting percentage, but if it goes in and is a 3 or 4 point play it does count. Just doesn't sound right.

Sure it sounds right. Why would you penalize a kid for missing a shot when he/she was fouled in the process of taking it? The shot was illegally affected.

benjgc · February 11, 2007, 08:36:34 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 11, 2007, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: newtonnancy on February 11, 2007, 06:39:03 PM
Also, anyone know why when there is a foul on a shot it is NOT considered a shot taken? I saw several TERRIBLE shots forced today and when the shooter gets fouled on theses horrific shots I was told today they don't count againt shooting percentage, but if it goes in and is a 3 or 4 point play it does count. Just doesn't sound right.

Sure it sounds right. Why would you penalize a kid for missing a shot when he/she was fouled in the process of taking it? The shot was illegally affected.

Yeah, I've always liked that rule; it makes it easier to pad my shooting percentage when playing with LeBron James in NBA Live...

thx4playing · February 11, 2007, 10:24:56 PM

Quote from: newtonnancy on February 11, 2007, 06:48:34 PM
I am leaning toward the point a friend made who has gone to games with me and seen not only UC but Brandeis, NYU, Chicago, Wash U and now Emory, that the UAA is DOWN this year and that as a whole the UAA is NOT better top to bottom as some people have said. His point was that the top teams Wash U, NYU, Rochester and Brandeis and also UC are not as good as their respective teams last year (I disagree as I think UC is better, but it is tough to argue the others mentioned are as good as last year). Also, he feels Emory is not as strong as last year either saying they are must weaker in the low post, since I did not see Emory last season I don't know.....

Any thoughts on the above

Having seen every UAA team at least once in each of the last five or so years, I disagree...with you and your friend.

Last year in the overall NCAA statistics (end of year), UAA teams ranked in the top-25 nine times, but only spanned two teams, Wash and NYU:

Field-Goal Percentage Defense - NYU - 19th
Blocked Shots Per Game - NYU - 19th
Assists Per Game - Washington - 2nd
Field-Goal Percentage - Washington - 9th
Scoring Offense - Washington - 10th
Scoring Margin - Washington - 10th
Blocked Shots Per Game - Washington - 12th
Won-Lost Percentage - Washington - 12th
Turnovers Per Game - Washington - 13th

This year (as of the most recent stats), five UAA teams have helped the UAA claim 15 spots in the top-25 across all categories (Brandeis, Chicago, NYU, Rochester, Wash):

Scoring Defense - Brandeis - 7th
Free-Throw Percentage - Brandeis - 9th
Scoring Margin - Brandeis - 23rd
Rebound Margin - Chicago - 4th
Field-Goal Percentage Defense - Chicago - 17th
Field-Goal Percentage Defense - NYU - 13th
Scoring Offense - NYU - 14th
Won-Lost Percentage - NYU - 14th
Scoring Margin - NYU - 16th
Free-Throw Percentage - NYU - 19th
Rebound Margin - NYU - 19th
Assists Per Game - Rochester - 13th
Won-Lost Percentage - Rochester - 14th
Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage - Rochester - 22nd
Rebound Margin - Washington - 21st

I think that speaks to overall increased strength of conference, as well as parody across the field...

newtonnancy · February 11, 2007, 10:25:07 PM

Mr. Capra,
Nice of you to join the board, and thanks for your input

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 11, 2007, 10:28:44 PM

As far as the shooting stat - Yeah... if you are fouled on the shot why punish you for the shot not falling. And if you hit it... what are they going to do... pretend the shot never happened?

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newtonnancy · February 11, 2007, 10:38:40 PM

I disagree....your statement that

"I think that speaks to overall increased strength of conference, as well as parody across the field..."

dose NOT necessarily speak to an overall increased strength of the UAA BUT can be explained by parody across the field (an that parody I believe is due to decrease in quality rather then an increase)

Additionally, if you for example compare teams from lets say 2 or 3 years ago I am hard pressed to belive that this Wash U team is better then their current counterpart, ditto NYU, Rochester, Emory, CWR, CMU (from 3 years ago) and Brandeis. Chicago looks to be better then their previous counterpart.