University Athletic Association

[sean-o]

Clarification completely accepted, nescac hoops. I was hoping that's what you meant, as most people here would agree that the vast majority of athletes deserve tons of credit for what they do. You just can't always tell on message boards...

To be fair to Nancy, she's criticized her own team plenty, so it's not so much the consistency that's the issue but rather the tone. I love analyzing these teams too, and I definitely evaluate them critically. I just like to be a bit more neutral and tempered about it.

[wonder_woman]

There's an idea sean-o. There's not much harder I think than attending college, especially a UUA college!- and playing a varsity sport. We could a use a message board all its own to thank to each and every one of these kids.

[jagluski]

There's an idea sean-o. There's not much harder I think than attending college, especially a UUA college!- and playing a varsity sport. We could a use a message board all its own to thank to each and every one of these kids.

I hope you mean a UAA college   You know what?  The Whitworth Men's Coach said this about Wash U's men, but the statement applies to the whole UAA.  "Wash. U's players are everything that's right about Division III. They're first and foremost excellent students. They have great character. I think they represent NCAA Division III really, really well."

[newtonnancy]

OK..... maybe using the word ASHAMED is to harsh a word and I apologize.

But, I would think that the coaches were salivating when they saw the draw they got, arguably the easiest draw in the tourney and just a few miles from home and to go ahead by 13 points midway in the first half and give that game back is a shame.

I do agree with Dutch in that the Coach has "blundered" thing more often then most and Dutch's point is just one in a long series of similar acts. What I still consider a bigger blunder is Simon's continual lack of challenging her teams early on. For example: how great would it have been to have an Emmanual on the schedule in early December rather then the continual parade of cupcakes like MIT, Simmons etc etc etc. Brandeis could have played a very young Emmanuel team before the freshmen grew up and probably won (they should have won Saturday) and how would that have played out at tournament time. Both teams would have had different attitudes.

I disagree with Dutch on the point regarding the guards not being able to get the ball to Malcom and "the 2 star posts" comment. Let's see, I think we will all agree Fitzy was probably the best post the last 4 years, or maybe not. Fitzy didn't rebound like Malcom, or score like Malcom although she did shoot for a higher percentage. Fitzy was a senior and Malcom was a freshman so where are the "2 star posts". Clancy was always a serviceable post, hardly a "star" and certainly not a "star" while Fitzy was at Brandeis. Fitzy got double and triple teamed and the argument here has been that "Malcom is always double or triple teamed". Oh yea, did we mention that Malcom is a 2 time ALL AMERICAN. Also, the highly heralded sophs in Dados and Orlando easily provided as much or more then Clancy, so you have lost me. The BLUNDER is again at the hands of the coaches. Brandeis brought in some very talented freshmen who it seems are athletic and fast and the coaches decided they were a running team this year and THAT IS THE BLUNDER, because it seemed to make the team more individualistic. I have been hard on Capra, but don't for a minute think that I don't think she is a talented basketball player, she is. My point is she is at times selfish and that seemed to lead other players including freshmen into that same mode. My point being, you have a 2 time ALL AMERICAN (ok I get it Capra will get that nod this year) how do you NOT get the ball to her more and all of a sudden this year settle for the guards taking the vast majority of the shots, I mean I saw boxes where Malcom took 6 shots in a game. Also, how did "that definately opened things up for the guards", I don't recall the guards being the big scorers the past few years and as you began to digress, the ball still got to Malcom. Maybe I am missing something, but I still think Malcom was Brandeis' BIGGEST asset this year and she has to accept a supporting role.

Chicago was a big disappointment but they should be really strong next year and I also wish Wash U, Rochester and NYU success, anyone of those coaches would have Brandeis still playing.

Now you can beat me up for being to harsh on the coaches.

[pureshooter]

 newton,
        i only saw brandeis play once this year, more last year. they looked slow to me. but with malcolm, she's got to be the first option. many of the guards i see can't feed the post, even with single coverage. she knows how to get good position in the post. even if she gets doubled, she can kick it out to a guard. but she sets an awful good target for an entry pass.
the game i happened to see was a game they had no business winning( wheaton), they had a huge advantage down low, malcolm got in foul trouble, but the posts on the bench have size. they had 20 offensive rebounds in the game, but they did not run much at all. as i said before, i thought a fast, uptempo team could give them problems. i have not seen emmanuel play, but from deiscanton it sounds like they play that way.

[newtonnancy]

Pureshooter,

Thank you, I was begining to think I was crazy, it seems nobody sees it. Excuses after excuses on why to go away from her, it is crazy to me...good to know I am not alone

[BachDog]

Just wanted to throw something out there...The UAA All-conference team was been chosen (although I don't know if there is an online version, the link to the UAA website doesn't seem to have one, unless I am missing something). I have heard from a few sources that most of what goes into the selections is scoring. I took a glance at the UAA stats from this year and want to make a case for my sister for 1st team and see what you guys think...

    Karen Bachman-NYU-'06-'07

Overrall                                                  UAA Conference Stats

27. Scoring per Game                         21.   Scoring per Game
4.   Rebounds per Game                      5.    Rebounds
3.   Field Goal %                                   4.    Assists
12. Free Throw %                               14.   Free Throw %
4.   Steals                                             2.   Steals
1.   Blocked Shots                                 2.   Blocked Shots
3.   Asst./Turnover Ratio                       2.   Assist/Turnover Ratio
2.   Defensive Rebounds                       4.   Defensive Rebounds

I know I am going to seem ungrateful and griping, but that is 6 categories where she is top FIVE in statistics...top 5 in five categories = HONORABLE MENTION. I don't think so. Firstly, does anyone know the criteria for the voting?? Is it coaches, media, anything else? Secondly, how heavily weighted is scoring?? I know the UAA is a great conference and heavy in talented players. Karen was Second team last year and I know she has only gotten better. I am probably making too big a deal about this, but I am just wondering about the voting criteria...Any insight is appreciated!!

[jagluski]

Just wanted to throw something out there...The UAA All-conference team was been chosen (although I don't know if there is an online version, the link to the UAA website doesn't seem to have one, unless I am missing something). I have heard from a few sources that most of what goes into the selections is scoring. I took a glance at the UAA stats from this year and want to make a case for my sister for 1st team and see what you guys think...

    Karen Bachman-NYU-'06-'07

Overrall                                                  UAA Conference Stats

27. Scoring per Game                         21.   Scoring per Game
4.   Rebounds per Game                      5.    Rebounds
3.   Field Goal %                                   4.    Assists
12. Free Throw %                               14.   Free Throw %
4.   Steals                                             2.   Steals
1.   Blocked Shots                                 2.   Blocked Shots
3.   Asst./Turnover Ratio                       2.   Assist/Turnover Ratio
2.   Defensive Rebounds                       4.   Defensive Rebounds

I know I am going to seem ungrateful and griping, but that is 6 categories where she is top FIVE in statistics...top 5 in five categories = HONORABLE MENTION. I don't think so. Firstly, does anyone know the criteria for the voting?? Is it coaches, media, anything else? Secondly, how heavily weighted is scoring?? I know the UAA is a great conference and heavy in talented players. Karen was Second team last year and I know she has only gotten better. I am probably making too big a deal about this, but I am just wondering about the voting criteria...Any insight is appreciated!!

The coaches vote.  Therefore, socring is weighted as heavily or unheavily as each individual coach wants to.  And you are missing something, here's the link to the online team.  http://www.uaa.rochester.edu/Basketball/07%20All-UAA%20BKB%20List.pdf

[BachDog]

Thanks Jagluski. The link you gave came up "no server" but I can figure it out from there...It's usually just the rochester website updating.

Congratulations to three out of the four UAA teams still in the tournament!!

I like all three teams' chances this weekend to reach the FINAL FOUR next weekend...We'll have to wait and see. Are people making the trips to watch??

[jagluski]

Thanks Jagluski. The link you gave came up "no server" but I can figure it out from there...It's usually just the rochester website updating.

Congratulations to three out of the four UAA teams still in the tournament!!

I like all three teams' chances this weekend to reach the FINAL FOUR next weekend...We'll have to wait and see. Are people making the trips to watch??

No problem.  It's on the UAA Women's Basketball Website at the top, too.  I will not be going to see Wash U since I live in New York City now, but there's a chance that I go see the NYU game on Saturday, assuming that there isn't a D1 Men's Conference Tourney game I want to watch or Wash U on the internet.

I agree with you about the UAA in the Final Four.  Rochester's got a pretty tough draw, but I would love to see NYU-Wash U Round 3.

In order, I think the chances are
1) NYU, especially at Coles, where they never seem to lose
2) Wash U, if they can get by Luther at Luther's gym, they could face #2 Howard Payne
3) Rochester, #1 Bowdoin, and then potentially at Scranton

[BachDog]

Thanks Jagluski. The link you gave came up "no server" but I can figure it out from there...It's usually just the rochester website updating.

Congratulations to three out of the four UAA teams still in the tournament!!

I like all three teams' chances this weekend to reach the FINAL FOUR next weekend...We'll have to wait and see. Are people making the trips to watch??

No problem.  It's on the UAA Women's Basketball Website at the top, too.  I will not be going to see Wash U since I live in New York City now, but there's a chance that I go see the NYU game on Saturday, assuming that there isn't a D1 Men's Conference Tourney game I want to watch or Wash U on the internet.

I agree with you about the UAA in the Final Four.  Rochester's got a pretty tough draw, but I would love to see NYU-Wash U Round 3.

In order, I think the chances are
1) NYU, especially at Coles, where they never seem to lose
2) Wash U, if they can get by Luther at Luther's gym, they could face #2 Howard Payne
3) Rochester, #1 Bowdoin, and then potentially at Scranton

I agree with you jagluski about the chances. I think that it's possible that Rochester and Wash U have a solid chance, especially Rochester who I have seen play lights out against NYU and if they hit the amount of threes they did that time, they can beat anyone. Plus, Rochester is real athletic and I think can bounce back the next day and remain competitive. I think it's real possible that we may have a three out of four UAA final four.

[deiscanton]

I just have a word of advice to the NYU fans going to Coles Center this weekend:

Don't assume that you have the Final Four trip to Springfield all wrapped up yet.  You will have two very tough opponents in both the Friday game vs. Simpson (IA), and the Saturday game (should the Violets win on Friday) against either Kean or Randolph-Macon.

In 2001, a lot of NYU fans, when they saw that they were hosting a sectional involving Bowdoin, Emmanuel, and SUNY-Cortland, thought that a trip to Danbury, CT for a rematch with Wash U was in the bag.  After all, Angela Vicari, Dari Magyar, Rashida Allen, Melina Nappi-Kahler, Jessi Nowak, Meg Barber, and the rest of the team had also gone undefeated at Coles going into that sectional-- and not only that, NYU had beaten Wash U with Dari Magyar's "Miracle in Manhattan" shot just a few weeks earlier to get a #2 ranking in the D3Hoops.com poll and a #1 ranking in the WBCA poll going into the sectional.

In that sectional, NYU just barely held on to defeat Bowdoin in the Sweet 16 by 4, and then the Violets lost in overtime to Emmanuel 74-70 in the Elite 8-- that dream trip to Danbury, CT had gone down the drain, and a lot of NYU fans who had already booked hotel reservations in Danbury in anticipation of going there had to cancel their reservations.

[BachDog]

Deis,

   Thanks for the advice, I think they are looking at this Simpson College team as they would any other tough competition...except for the fact that if they lose, it's over. I have heard that Simpson is like a lot of Midwestern teams: good shooters, good defenders, solid fundamentals. I also know they have one of the leading shot-blockers in the country and a strong All-American. I am interested in how they will handle Jess McIntee and how that match-up ends up.

   The home court advantage is strong though too...No loss yet this year, knock on wood.

I just have a word of advice to the NYU fans going to Coles Center this weekend:

Don't assume that you have the Final Four trip to Springfield all wrapped up yet.  You will have two very tough opponents in both the Friday game vs. Simpson (IA), and the Saturday game (should the Violets win on Friday) against either Kean or Randolph-Macon.

In 2001, a lot of NYU fans, when they saw that they were hosting a sectional involving Bowdoin, Emmanuel, and SUNY-Cortland, thought that a trip to Danbury, CT for a rematch with Wash U was in the bag.  After all, Angela Vicari, Dari Magyar, Rashida Allen, Melina Nappi-Kahler, Jessi Nowak, Meg Barber, and the rest of the team had also gone undefeated at Coles going into that sectional-- and not only that, NYU had beaten Wash U with Dari Magyar's "Miracle in Manhattan" shot just a few weeks earlier to get a #2 ranking in the D3Hoops.com poll and a #1 ranking in the WBCA poll going into the sectional.

In that sectional, NYU just barely held on to defeat Bowdoin in the Sweet 16 by 4, and then the Violets lost in overtime to Emmanuel 74-70 in the Elite 8-- that dream trip to Danbury, CT had gone down the drain, and a lot of NYU fans who had already booked hotel reservations in Danbury in anticipation of going there had to cancel their reservations.

[jagluski]

NYU had beaten Wash U with Dari Magyar's "Miracle in Manhattan" shot just a few weeks earlier to get a #2 ranking in the D3Hoops.com poll and a #1 ranking in the WBCA poll going into the sectional.

You had to remind me of this?

[newtonnancy]

Bach,

I think if you look back you will see the UAA coaches have a LONGGGGGGGGG history of putting the top scores on the 1st and 2nd team. I have my thoughts on why they think that way, but over the years I have seen players who are the glue to teams, who aren't necessarily the top scorers get over looked. It is also like their selections of coaches of the year, it is ALWAY the staff who wins the conference. It becomes mindless, its a lot like high school where only the scorers get the accolades.