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martin

Chicago 72
Concordia(MN) 63

Maroons led by 30 - ahead by 20 with under three minutes.  14 played - no one more than 20 minutes.  Face Baruch tomorrow.  Concordia is on the list of teams that have ripped off the Chicago "C" emblem - along with Central College, da Bears and the Cincinnati Reds.

Brandeis is upset!!
Kenyon 67
Brandeis 62

Wash U 68
Olivet 38

Case 69
Otterbein 57

CMU 51
Mt. Union 48
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David Collinge

Quote from: martin on November 17, 2007, 07:11:10 PM
Brandeis is upset!!
Kenyon 67
Brandeis 62

Kenyon has a chance to be very good this year.  Maybe not UAA-good, but good nonetheless, and this win will be a HUGE boost to their confidence.  Allen, if you were at this game, I'd love to hear your reaction.  Here's links to the game recap and box score from Kenyon's website.

deiscanton

My comments:

1.)  Referee Dennis Kelly did not cost Brandeis the game, but he sure got the 'Deis supporters riled up when he seemed to overrule what looked to be a 5 second call late in the game and stated that the Kenyon coach called timeout before the 5 second call took place.

1A.)  What was up with Capra choosing to fire a "3" with 7 seconds left rather than attempting a drive to the hoop and getting fouled?  I knew that shot had no shot of making it when she fired it.  She definitely could have got the foul call by driving to the hoop, and if she makes a 2 pt. basket, the game is tied and could go to overtime.

1B.)  A subpar first half by the Brandeis team yesterday set the stage for the final outcome.

1C.)  Chapin cannot afford to play like she is still a rookie guard right now.

1D.)  When you give up 9 3's on defense, the fact that you only turned the ball over 9 times for the game is not a consolation.  10 assists on 21 made baskets is not a great ratio either when you are playing a very good opponent.

2.)  Given the strength of the UAA, I wouldn't be surprised if Chicago and Emory finished ahead of the Brandeis women in the conference standings when this season ends.

3.)  If I were forced to rank teams right now, I would put Kenyon in the top 25, probably around the number 20-25 range-- I would put Kenyon 1 spot above Emmanuel in the national poll (based on my belief that Emmanuel historically has trouble playing Great Lakes teams), and either rank Brandeis at #25 or drop them out of the poll altogether.  I would prefer the Brandeis women unranked at this point to make the Brandeis women earn their spot again. 

4.)  I am just glad that DePauw and Luther aren't on the Brandeis schedule this season-- right now, Brandeis is not good enough to beat those teams--Mary Washington right now would also look to be a clear favorite in a hypothetical matchup with the Judges.

nobody

With all do respect deiscanton...Brandeis folks cannot complain about officiating.  Of any school in the UAA, officials at your gym are the most biased toward the home team. 

deiscanton

Well, I didn't want this to get into a discussion on officiating-- I just commented on that one point because it was noted in the Brandeis press release of the game.

It just seems, to me anyway, that fans always seem to get riled up no matter which way an official calls any call-- depending on which team you are rooting for.  :)

goldnblack

Just a note from Depauw  from the kick-off tourney: Wash U vs Illinois Wesleyan: Ill W is a top ten team and were under-rated.  Wash U ran into a well-oiled buzz saw. Il W returns all their starters from a team that beat Depauw last year then had two injuries late in the year that did them in. They run a four guard offense with alot of motion and great outside shooting. Wash U looked out of sink against them but that is the way they looked last year in this early tourney. Wash U is young and often had three Freshman on the floor. Their point guard who tore her ACL last year is at about 70 per cent. She had 25 against DePauw in that first game last year but I do not think she scored against Ill West. Ill West really dominated them getting up as much as 23. Wash U looked alot better against Olivett but not near the competition that Ill Wes offered. Coach Fahey will have them ready for their usual conference run because the Freshman have a huge upside and the point will get healthier. I really wondered going into the weekend if Depauw and Wash U deserved their top ten ranking because both teams lost alot of talent from last year. Depauw was ready for Ill W and pulled off the win and probably deserves to be in the top ten. Ill W is a great team and IT IS HARD FOR ANYONE TO BEAT WASH U AND DEPAUW IN THE SAME WEEKEND. Wash U as usual is  at least a top twenty team and will get better.

ILive4This

Dear Nobody,

I am not one to blame officials for games, they are humans they do not make mistakes, but if someone is to look at the tape that the Kenyon SID person was filming, you will see that yes a timeout was called before 5 seconds, but it was a 3second paint violation people were angry about.

I am also not sure where you get off saying Waltham games are the most biased in the UAA. I really have no noticed this at all. In fact visitors normally are given fair if not better treatment, perhaps because of obnoxious comments yelled by fans in the first few rows.

Finall, have you been to Wash U, or atleast looked at the box scores from UAA games? In one weekend the Bears held a 20+ advantage in personal fouls awarded. One cannot claim that they just played a clean game, because if my memory serves me correctly, they got their fair share of fouls on the road, or even at home against non-UAA teams.

That is all,

Have a great rest of your weekend.

ILive4This

As a side note, that disparity was found in the mens not the womens games, but does serve as evidence toward the bias seen in other UAA cities. I figured I would throw out my seudo error before someone went to town on me for it.

nobody

I agree, the officials at Wash aren't exactly even either.  I understand officiating is a tough job, and these D3 officials aren't exactly cashing in like their D1 counterparts.  I suppose I exaggerated a bit when I said the officials in Waltham are the worst...they aren't great in St Louis or NYC either.  :)

Hoop Dreams

Chicago takes the Midway Classic with a 77-67 win over NYC's Baruch College.

Sophomore Molly Hackney tallied 25 points, 10 rebounds and 6(!) blocks to win Tournament MVP.

Great start to the season by the Maroons.  Chicago played 14 women on Saturday and 12 today.  It must be difficult to prepare for a team like that.  From the speed of Nofi Mojidi to the size of the front line to the rebounding and scrappy play of Nicaya Rapier, the Maroons can beat you in so many ways.

The biggest concern I see at this point is turnovers, which really hurt the Maroons during their fall from grace last season.  42 TOs in the 2 wins this weekend.  Chicago's style of play is always going to lead to some turnovers, but if they can be limited, I think UC can do some special things this season.

newtonnancy

I must agree with Hoop, I was at the game today and they are good, at least as good as last season. Hopefully the extra year of experience and maturity will bode well. I love the team speed and I too expect big things this season.

Nobody, from the past games I attended at Brandeis, I always felt it strange how the home team always seemed to be on the short end of the officiating, but I often attributed that to Coach Simon continually being all over the officials. You may be the first person I have ever heard say that Brandeis gets any kind of advantage there. And, yes revisit NYU and WASH U stats.

Allen, why would Capra taking an ill advised shot suprise you? Some people just spell team with an "I" in it.

newtonnancy

FROM THE BRANDEIS uNIVERSITY JUSTICE:

The Judges pressed on the ensuing possession, and the referee initially called a five-second closely-guarded violation on Kenyon, which would have given Brandeis the ball with 25 seconds remaining. After a short conference, however, the officials reversed the call, concluding that Kenyon had called a timeout before the whistle was blown.

"You can't change the call, but I don't think that it was a very good call," Orlando said. "I thought that was one of the main reasons that cost us the game at the end."

With the ball back in Kenyon's possession, senior forward Eva George beat out the shot clock to give Kenyon a three-point cushion. Brandeis had one last chance to tie the score, but Capra's wild three-point attempt missed badly with eight seconds remaining.

deiscanton

Thanks for posting these excerpts, Newtonnancy.

The whole story is on line at http://www.thejusticeonline.com if you are interested in more about this game.  I have read the story and was interested in the player and coach reactions.

Since Brandeis is playing at Wellesley tonight, I will check out the Tufts women this evening in their home opener against WNEC before going to Suffolk to see the Brandeis men play Suffolk.  I may only be able to catch the first half of the Tufts game tonight, so that I can get to Suffolk in time for the start of the Brandeis men's game.  (For the record, I will be surprised if either Brandeis game is close tonight.)

(Yes, I am not going to my brother's place in Maryland for Thanksgiving this year, unfortunately.  I will have Thanksgiving dinner at Durgin Park in Boston on Thursday.)

On to some interesting tidbits about Tufts (Brandeis's Sunday opponent):

1.)  Tufts has a D1 transfer starting at center in 6'3" junior Katie Tausanovitch (#52).  Tausanovitch transferred in from William and Mary, where she played for the past 2 years.  In her first two games at Tufts over the weekend, she averaged 8 ppg and she collected 12 rebounds in the game vs. Endicott over the weekend.    6'1" forward Khalilah Ummah has also moved to the starting lineup to create a strong starting post for Tufts.

2.)  Tufts coach Carla Berube is also starting to teach the triangle offense at Tufts (this is according to the Tufts Daily student newspaper)-- she thinks that she has the personnel this year to start using it. 

newtonnancy

Allen, I guess SUnday and Tuesday are big tests for Brandeis with Tufts (who they always beat) and Emmanuel who beat them in NCAA's last year but who lost this week to C Conn.

Any more thoughts on the 2 match ups?

newtonnancy

Just noticed that Wash U plays Kenyon on Saturday, that should be interesting and give us an idea on how Wash U and Brandeis match up