University Athletic Association

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Halftime from the Palestra in Rochester, NY--

Rochester 29, Emory 27

This is the final day of UAA play for this season.

Upcoming tip times on the women's side--

CWRU at Carnegie Mellon-- 1 PM Eastern.
Wash U at UChicago-- 2 PM Eastern.

What is at stake in today's Emory at Rochester contest--

Historically, the DIII Women's Basketball Committee has not bucked the trend of taking a Pool C selection with a win/loss pct. below .667, unlike what the DIII Men's Basketball Committee did with WIAC teams UW-Oshkosh men 2016-17 (.630 w/l pct.) and UW-La Crosse men in 2018-19 season (.654 w/l pct.).

Emory comes into today's contest with a primary criteria w/l pct of .682 (15-7).

Emory also has a win over provisional team Asbury, which does not in the primary criteria this season.

Emory finishes the regular season at 16-7 (.696 w/l pct) with a victory at Rochester.  An Emory loss drops the Eagles to 15-8 (.652) and likely out of the Pool C running.

Rochester comes into today's contest with a .667 w/l pct. (16-8 win/loss record).    A Rochester win improves the Yellowjackets to a final regular season w/l pct. of .680 (17-8).  A loss drops Rochester to .640 (16-9) and likely out of the Pool C picture.

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End of third quarter-- Rochester 42, Emory 41

Carnegie Mellon 11, CWRU 8  3:35 left in first quarter.

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Final from the Palestra in Rochester, NY--

Emory 55, Rochester 53

Emory finishes regular season in fourth place in the UAA at 8-6 in the UAA, 16-7 in the primary criteria, 17-7 overall.

Emory women remain alive in the Pool C conversation and will see on Monday if they get a Pool C selection.

Rochester finishes regular season at 6-8 in the UAA, 16-9 overall.

The season is most likely over for the Rochester.women-- fringe contender at best for a Pool C.

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Halftime at Wiegand Gym in Pittsburgh--

Carnegie Mellon 39, CWRU 34

Wash U at UChicago will be tipping off at 2 PM Eastern.

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End of third quarter at Wiegand Gym in Pittsburgh--

CWRU 56, Carnegie Mellon 54

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End of first quarter at Ratner Center in Chicago, IL--

Wash U 19, UChicago 16

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Final from Wiegand Gym in Pittsburgh--

Carnegie Mellon 79, CWRU 69

Carnegie Mellon finishes the season in 7th place in the UAA-- 3-11 in the UAA, 12-13 overall.

CWRU finishes tied for 5th place in the UAA with Rochester at 6-8 in the UAA, 15-10 overall.

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Halftime at Ratner Center in Chicago, IL--

UChicago 38, Wash U 32

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Update from Chicago--

UChicago led over Wash U 55-50 at the end of the third quarter.

Currently, it is UChicago 57, Wash U 57 with 7:06 left in regulation.

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Final from Ratner Center in Chicago, IL--

UChicago 71, Wash U 63

UChicago finishes the regular season tied for 2nd in the UAA with Wash U at 10-4 in the UAA, 21-4 overall.

Wash U finishes the regular season tied for 2nd in the UAA with UChicago at 10-4 in the UAA, 17-8 overall.

Both teams finish 2 games back of NYU in the standings.

The 2022-23 UAA Women's Basketball Season has concluded conference play.

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NYU could have arranged for a nearby school(Baruch, e.g.) to serve as a proxy host in their place and eliminate travel aspects of the tourney games; I wonder if they attempted it. They would have known in plenty of time that the women, at least, would be hosting the 1st, if not both, weekends. I'm remembering this happening in the past in the NYC area, maybe 10 years ago.

Getting back to what happened in the NYC area a while back that affected hosting opportunities-- that would have been the time that the NCAA prohibited any Championship rounds in any sport from being held in New Jersey due to New Jersey's attempt to introduce sports betting in that state and attempt an eventual successful challenge to the then federal law prohibiting most US states from allowing legal sports betting to the US Supreme Court.  The federal law prohibiting legal sports betting in most US states was ruled unconstiutional by the US Supreme Court, and that laid the groundwork for legal sports betting to become available in the majority of the United States.   

This year, Massachusetts introduced retail legal sports betting on January 31, 2023, and mobile/internet sports betting will be able to be legally placed in Massachusetts starting March 10, 2023.  Massachusetts customers can already travel to Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire and legally bet on sports in those states either by retail or mobile sports betting through an account in those states once the customer is physically present in the state where mobile sports betting is allowed and the customer has the account. 

Also, any arguments about whether NYU could have been able to rent an alternative gym became moot after Friday, February 17, 2023, when paperwork for hosting was due.  The top priority for NYU now is to get the athletic facilities in the Paulson Center at 181 Mercer Street in Manhattan fully on line and operational.  To that end, NYU has posted on their athletics website that their new basketball arena is scheduled to be completed by June, 2023, when the flooding damage caused by the pipe burst in the Paulson Center basement back in December, 2022 is fully fixed by complete replacement of the new courts.   The new court will definitely be available for the start of the 2023-24 season barring any other catastrophic incidents.

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NYU could have arranged for a nearby school(Baruch, e.g.) to serve as a proxy host in their place and eliminate travel aspects of the tourney games; I wonder if they attempted it. They would have known in plenty of time that the women, at least, would be hosting the 1st, if not both, weekends. I'm remembering this happening in the past in the NYC area, maybe 10 years ago.

Getting back to what happened in the NYC area a while back that affected hosting opportunities-- that would have been the time that the NCAA prohibited any Championship rounds in any sport from being held in New Jersey due to New Jersey's attempt to introduce sports betting in that state and attempt an eventual successful challenge to the then federal law prohibiting most US states from allowing legal sports betting to the US Supreme Court.  The federal law prohibiting legal sports betting in most US states was ruled unconstiutional by the US Supreme Court, and that laid the groundwork for legal sports betting to become available in the majority of the United States.   

This year, Massachusetts introduced retail legal sports betting on January 31, 2023, and mobile/internet sports betting will be able to be legally placed in Massachusetts starting March 10, 2023.  Massachusetts customers can already travel to Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire and legally bet on sports in those states either by retail or mobile sports betting through an account in those states once the customer is physically present in the state where mobile sports betting is allowed and the customer has the account. 

Also, any arguments about whether NYU could have been able to rent an alternative gym became moot after Friday, February 17, 2023, when paperwork for hosting was due. The top priority for NYU now is to get the athletic facilities in the Paulson Center at 181 Mercer Street in Manhattan fully on line and operational.  To that end, NYU has posted on their athletics website that their new basketball arena is scheduled to be completed by June, 2023, when the flooding damage caused by the pipe burst in the Paulson Center basement back in December, 2022 is fully fixed by complete replacement of the new courts.   The new court will definitely be available for the start of the 2023-24 season barring any other catastrophic incidents.

It wasn't moot for the month before that when it was evident that NYU women would be worthy of hosting the 1st weekend at a minimum and knew that their own facility had become unavailable. I would think the school owes it to the team to accommodate any hosting advantage that they have earned by their play, especially in lieu of all that they have had to endure the past few years.

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NYU could have arranged for a nearby school(Baruch, e.g.) to serve as a proxy host in their place and eliminate travel aspects of the tourney games; I wonder if they attempted it. They would have known in plenty of time that the women, at least, would be hosting the 1st, if not both, weekends. I'm remembering this happening in the past in the NYC area, maybe 10 years ago.

Getting back to what happened in the NYC area a while back that affected hosting opportunities-- that would have been the time that the NCAA prohibited any Championship rounds in any sport from being held in New Jersey due to New Jersey's attempt to introduce sports betting in that state and attempt an eventual successful challenge to the then federal law prohibiting most US states from allowing legal sports betting to the US Supreme Court.  The federal law prohibiting legal sports betting in most US states was ruled unconstiutional by the US Supreme Court, and that laid the groundwork for legal sports betting to become available in the majority of the United States.   

This year, Massachusetts introduced retail legal sports betting on January 31, 2023, and mobile/internet sports betting will be able to be legally placed in Massachusetts starting March 10, 2023.  Massachusetts customers can already travel to Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire and legally bet on sports in those states either by retail or mobile sports betting through an account in those states once the customer is physically present in the state where mobile sports betting is allowed and the customer has the account. 

Also, any arguments about whether NYU could have been able to rent an alternative gym became moot after Friday, February 17, 2023, when paperwork for hosting was due. The top priority for NYU now is to get the athletic facilities in the Paulson Center at 181 Mercer Street in Manhattan fully on line and operational.  To that end, NYU has posted on their athletics website that their new basketball arena is scheduled to be completed by June, 2023, when the flooding damage caused by the pipe burst in the Paulson Center basement back in December, 2022 is fully fixed by complete replacement of the new courts.   The new court will definitely be available for the start of the 2023-24 season barring any other catastrophic incidents.

It wasn't moot for the month before that when it was evident that NYU women would be worthy of hosting the 1st weekend at a minimum and knew that their own facility had become unavailable. I would think the school owes it to the team to accommodate any hosting advantage that they have earned by their play, especially in lieu of all that they have had to endure the past few years.

NYU hosted NCAA women's basketball tournament first weekend games at "the Pope" at St. Francis Brooklyn last year because they came to an agreement with St. Francis Brooklyn to use that facility to host UAA games for that season.  "The Pope" was permanantly closed in November of 2022, as I previously posted.   I can't spit on NYU for not finding out until early January that the flooding damage at the Paulson Center basement was too extensive to have a basketball floor ready for any play there this season.  NYU was planning back last September to have the basketball court at the new Paulson Center athletic facilities ready for UAA play this season.  I had planned to go to New York last Friday for NYU Senior Day at the new facility at 181 Mercer Street in Manhattan, and had purchased train tickets and booked a hotel room for Friday night, February 24.  My plan was to return to Boston on Amtrak on Saturday, Feb. 25 after the Friday games.  I had to cancel those plans in mid January when I found out that the new gym was not going to be ready for basketball season after all due to the pipe burst.  I had only learned first of the pipe burst when NYU was playing at Brandeis back on January 7, and even then, I was not aware of the extent of the damage.  It was only about a week later that I learned that all of the UAA games were going to have to be played this year at the Brooklyn Athletic Facility, a place that NYU tried for years to avoid having UAA games played there-- 180 seats is practically too small to have the in-person attendance that you would expect to have at a UAA contest.  Historically, home and visiting alumni clubs planned gatherings over the years around the UAA basketball games.

Honestly, I am seeing a lot of anger at NYU this season about the NCAA tournament that I honestly cannot understand.   It is not like someone at NYU deliberately sabotaged a pipe to burst at 181 Mercer Street.  As for me, I am using the money that I spent on Amtrak tickets to change my train trip to go to Hartford, CT via New Haven for the DIII Women's Basketball National Semifinals at Trinity (CT) on March 18.

Let's see where the bracket will have NYU go when it gets revealed today.

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NYU could have arranged for a nearby school(Baruch, e.g.) to serve as a proxy host in their place and eliminate travel aspects of the tourney games; I wonder if they attempted it. They would have known in plenty of time that the women, at least, would be hosting the 1st, if not both, weekends. I'm remembering this happening in the past in the NYC area, maybe 10 years ago.

Getting back to what happened in the NYC area a while back that affected hosting opportunities-- that would have been the time that the NCAA prohibited any Championship rounds in any sport from being held in New Jersey due to New Jersey's attempt to introduce sports betting in that state and attempt an eventual successful challenge to the then federal law prohibiting most US states from allowing legal sports betting to the US Supreme Court.  The federal law prohibiting legal sports betting in most US states was ruled unconstiutional by the US Supreme Court, and that laid the groundwork for legal sports betting to become available in the majority of the United States.   

This year, Massachusetts introduced retail legal sports betting on January 31, 2023, and mobile/internet sports betting will be able to be legally placed in Massachusetts starting March 10, 2023.  Massachusetts customers can already travel to Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire and legally bet on sports in those states either by retail or mobile sports betting through an account in those states once the customer is physically present in the state where mobile sports betting is allowed and the customer has the account. 

Also, any arguments about whether NYU could have been able to rent an alternative gym became moot after Friday, February 17, 2023, when paperwork for hosting was due. The top priority for NYU now is to get the athletic facilities in the Paulson Center at 181 Mercer Street in Manhattan fully on line and operational.  To that end, NYU has posted on their athletics website that their new basketball arena is scheduled to be completed by June, 2023, when the flooding damage caused by the pipe burst in the Paulson Center basement back in December, 2022 is fully fixed by complete replacement of the new courts.   The new court will definitely be available for the start of the 2023-24 season barring any other catastrophic incidents.

It wasn't moot for the month before that when it was evident that NYU women would be worthy of hosting the 1st weekend at a minimum and knew that their own facility had become unavailable. I would think the school owes it to the team to accommodate any hosting advantage that they have earned by their play, especially in lieu of all that they have had to endure the past few years.

NYU hosted NCAA women's basketball tournament first weekend games at "the Pope" at St. Francis Brooklyn last year because they came to an agreement with St. Francis Brooklyn to use that facility to host UAA games for that season.  "The Pope" was permanantly closed in November of 2022, as I previously posted.   I can't spit on NYU for not finding out until early January that the flooding damage at the Paulson Center basement was too extensive to have a basketball floor ready for any play there this season.  NYU was planning back last September to have the basketball court at the new Paulson Center athletic facilities ready for UAA play this season.  I had planned to go to New York last Friday for NYU Senior Day at the new facility at 181 Mercer Street in Manhattan, and had purchased train tickets and booked a hotel room for Friday night, February 24.  My plan was to return to Boston on Amtrak on Saturday, Feb. 25 after the Friday games.  I had to cancel those plans in mid January when I found out that the new gym was not going to be ready for basketball season after all due to the pipe burst.  I had only learned first of the pipe burst when NYU was playing at Brandeis back on January 7, and even then, I was not aware of the extent of the damage.  It was only about a week later that I learned that all of the UAA games were going to have to be played this year at the Brooklyn Athletic Facility, a place that NYU tried for years to avoid having UAA games played there-- 180 seats is practically too small to have the in-person attendance that you would expect to have at a UAA contest.  Historically, home and visiting alumni clubs planned gatherings over the years around the UAA basketball games.

Honestly, I am seeing a lot of anger at NYU this season about the NCAA tournament that I honestly cannot understand.   It is not like someone at NYU deliberately sabotaged a pipe to burst at 181 Mercer Street.  As for me, I am using the money that I spent on Amtrak tickets to change my train trip to go to Hartford, CT via New Haven for the DIII Women's Basketball National Semifinals at Trinity (CT) on March 18.

Let's see where the bracket will have NYU go when it gets revealed today.

No anger at all, I merely wondered if NYU considered NCAA hosting at a nearby facility given that the team had earned that consideration and they had at least a month to investigate that possibility. For all we know, they might have done all that I suggest and decided it wasn't going to work out. Announcing that they wouldn't be hosting doesn't answer whether they gave it the "old college try" and found it unreasonable before that announcement. Just posing the question - no attribution either way.

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NYU could have arranged for a nearby school(Baruch, e.g.) to serve as a proxy host in their place and eliminate travel aspects of the tourney games; I wonder if they attempted it. They would have known in plenty of time that the women, at least, would be hosting the 1st, if not both, weekends. I'm remembering this happening in the past in the NYC area, maybe 10 years ago.

Getting back to what happened in the NYC area a while back that affected hosting opportunities-- that would have been the time that the NCAA prohibited any Championship rounds in any sport from being held in New Jersey due to New Jersey's attempt to introduce sports betting in that state and attempt an eventual successful challenge to the then federal law prohibiting most US states from allowing legal sports betting to the US Supreme Court.  The federal law prohibiting legal sports betting in most US states was ruled unconstiutional by the US Supreme Court, and that laid the groundwork for legal sports betting to become available in the majority of the United States.   

This year, Massachusetts introduced retail legal sports betting on January 31, 2023, and mobile/internet sports betting will be able to be legally placed in Massachusetts starting March 10, 2023.  Massachusetts customers can already travel to Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire and legally bet on sports in those states either by retail or mobile sports betting through an account in those states once the customer is physically present in the state where mobile sports betting is allowed and the customer has the account. 

Also, any arguments about whether NYU could have been able to rent an alternative gym became moot after Friday, February 17, 2023, when paperwork for hosting was due. The top priority for NYU now is to get the athletic facilities in the Paulson Center at 181 Mercer Street in Manhattan fully on line and operational.  To that end, NYU has posted on their athletics website that their new basketball arena is scheduled to be completed by June, 2023, when the flooding damage caused by the pipe burst in the Paulson Center basement back in December, 2022 is fully fixed by complete replacement of the new courts.   The new court will definitely be available for the start of the 2023-24 season barring any other catastrophic incidents.

It wasn't moot for the month before that when it was evident that NYU women would be worthy of hosting the 1st weekend at a minimum and knew that their own facility had become unavailable. I would think the school owes it to the team to accommodate any hosting advantage that they have earned by their play, especially in lieu of all that they have had to endure the past few years.

NYU hosted NCAA women's basketball tournament first weekend games at "the Pope" at St. Francis Brooklyn last year because they came to an agreement with St. Francis Brooklyn to use that facility to host UAA games for that season.  "The Pope" was permanantly closed in November of 2022, as I previously posted.   I can't spit on NYU for not finding out until early January that the flooding damage at the Paulson Center basement was too extensive to have a basketball floor ready for any play there this season.  NYU was planning back last September to have the basketball court at the new Paulson Center athletic facilities ready for UAA play this season.  I had planned to go to New York last Friday for NYU Senior Day at the new facility at 181 Mercer Street in Manhattan, and had purchased train tickets and booked a hotel room for Friday night, February 24.  My plan was to return to Boston on Amtrak on Saturday, Feb. 25 after the Friday games.  I had to cancel those plans in mid January when I found out that the new gym was not going to be ready for basketball season after all due to the pipe burst.  I had only learned first of the pipe burst when NYU was playing at Brandeis back on January 7, and even then, I was not aware of the extent of the damage.  It was only about a week later that I learned that all of the UAA games were going to have to be played this year at the Brooklyn Athletic Facility, a place that NYU tried for years to avoid having UAA games played there-- 180 seats is practically too small to have the in-person attendance that you would expect to have at a UAA contest.  Historically, home and visiting alumni clubs planned gatherings over the years around the UAA basketball games.

Honestly, I am seeing a lot of anger at NYU this season about the NCAA tournament that I honestly cannot understand.   It is not like someone at NYU deliberately sabotaged a pipe to burst at 181 Mercer Street.  As for me, I am using the money that I spent on Amtrak tickets to change my train trip to go to Hartford, CT via New Haven for the DIII Women's Basketball National Semifinals at Trinity (CT) on March 18.

Let's see where the bracket will have NYU go when it gets revealed today.

No anger at all, I merely wondered if NYU considered NCAA hosting at a nearby facility given that the team had earned that consideration and they had at least a month to investigate that possibility. For all we know, they might have done all that I suggest and decided it wasn't going to work out. Announcing that they wouldn't be hosting doesn't answer whether they gave it the "old college try" and found it unreasonable before that announcement. Just posing the question - no attribution either way.

I would have hoped that NYU gave it the "old college try." on this.   After all, both NYU basketball programs had meetings with the Athletic Director and others about how to proceed with logistics once it was learned that UAA games would have to be played at the Brooklyn Athletic Facility this season.  I would also have hoped that one of the topics at the meetings in December and January was potential postseason play and the logistics of hosting.  I am inferring that renting a gym just for one or two weekends of NCAA postseason play was not going to work out this season for NYU-- I just do not have time to contact Jeff Bernstein of NYU Athletic Communications and ask him about that subject.

Once again, let's see at 2:30 PM Eastern today where NYU will be playing this weekend.