WBB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Earlham @ Defiance
Bluffton @ Manchester
Anderson @ Rose-Hulman
Franklin @ MSJ
Hanover @ Transylvania

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I forgot to update the OOWP last time. Should be good now.

Team            W    L   Win %    W     L     OWP      W      L     OOWP    SoS
Transylvania   12    0   1.000    95    73   0.565   1199   1212   0.497   0.688
Bluffton       12    4   0.750    99   113   0.467   1577   1520   0.509   0.575
Rose-Hulman     8    5   0.615    85    88   0.491   1285   1242   0.509   0.538
Hanover         9    7   0.563   114    99   0.535   1533   1566   0.495   0.531
Defiance        9    6   0.600    88   114   0.436   1493   1446   0.508   0.515
Anderson        7    9   0.438   109   104   0.512   1550   1556   0.499   0.483
Franklin        6    9   0.400   102   103   0.498   1477   1488   0.498   0.465
Mount St Joseph 4   10   0.286   100    91   0.524   1357   1405   0.491   0.434
Manchester      4   10   0.286    95    96   0.497   1369   1400   0.494   0.426
Earlham         1   12   0.077    87    93   0.483   1268   1323   0.489   0.350

OOWP is pretty much a non-factor at this point. Just .02 between the highest and lowest.
A Manchester win and MSJ loss would get the Spartans into 8th. The difference between a win and loss at this point is around .02 in final SoS.

[Jester1390]

Franklin  heading out to fly to franklin for tonight's game.  Is the big  still out.    You might see a very motivated rose team tonight. They have finals Monday and they want their playoff game Sunday to be at home so they can all start studying right away and not trying to study on a bus.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I think everybody is healthy. Both Cross and Bailey who missed the first meeting should be playing. Enjoy your visit to Spurlock (although not too much, hopefully the Grizzlies win )

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Here's the numbers I have which seems to differ from the standings the HCAC has including who got in as the 8 seed.

Team            W    L   Win %    W     L     OWP      W      L     OOWP    SoS
Transylvania   13    0   1.000   103    90   0.534   1473   1500   0.495   0.676
Bluffton       13    4   0.765   115   128   0.473   1907   1878   0.504   0.581
Rose-Hulman     9    5   0.643    97   104   0.483   1589   1541   0.508   0.544
Hanover        10    7   0.588   126   117   0.519   1876   1905   0.496   0.534
Defiance        9    7   0.563   107   126   0.459   1820   1792   0.504   0.509
Anderson        7   10   0.412   121   122   0.498   1895   1890   0.501   0.470
Franklin        6   10   0.375   118   115   0.506   1789   1819   0.496   0.459
Manchester      5   10   0.333   108   113   0.489   1702   1713   0.498   0.440
MSJ             4   11   0.267   116   105   0.525   1685   1726   0.494   0.429
Earlham         1   13   0.071   106    99   0.517   1559   1613   0.491   0.360

I differ on 3/4 and 8/9. Win percentage is what it is so it's not there, OOWP are nearly identical for everyone so that's not it either. I've updated OWP because I think I wasn't removing all the head to head games (when teams played twice I was just removing the result from each game rather than both results from both matchups) so I fixed that and it made very little difference, certainly not enough to change the standings.

Team            W    L   Win %    W     L     OWP      W      L     OOWP    SoS
Transylvania   13    0   1.000   103    82   0.557   1386   1409   0.496   0.684
Bluffton       13    4   0.765   111   116   0.489   1790   1781   0.501   0.585
Rose-Hulman     9    5   0.643    94    97   0.492   1493   1459   0.506   0.547
Hanover        10    7   0.588   119   108   0.524   1772   1795   0.497   0.536
Defiance        9    7   0.563   101   118   0.461   1707   1695   0.502   0.508
Anderson        7   10   0.412   112   115   0.493   1788   1783   0.501   0.469
Franklin        6   10   0.375   109   110   0.498   1689   1709   0.497   0.457
Manchester      5   10   0.333   101   108   0.483   1600   1613   0.498   0.438
MSJ             4   11   0.267   107   102   0.512   1592   1617   0.496   0.425
Earlham         1   13   0.071    96    99   0.492   1476   1510   0.494   0.353

Maybe it's better that MSJ is somehow ahead of Manchester for the 8 seed. Manchester gets to end their season with a win rather than getting destroyed by Transylvania.

[Baldini]

Equally surprised this morning Grizz. Though RHIT was sure to be the 3 seed and certainly thought Manchester got past MSJ for the 8 seed. After Manchester's gutsy win last night, it is a little disappointing they didn't get that last spot.

Same on the men's side, Transylvania and Anderson end up 4/5 and I thought they would be 2/3.

[Baldini]

Sunday's schedule.

Defiance @ RHIT
Manchester @ Transylvania
Franklin @ Bluffton
Anderson @Hanover

[Jester1390]

I agree I thought both as well.  There has to be mass confusion. The Manchester schedule page has them playing Transylvania

[Jester1390]

Wow what a terrible lesson to teach your players just
Not about sports but about life.   Saint joe dropped out of the tournament.  Manchester replaces them this from their webpage

record of 8-14, 5-10 HCAC. With Mt. St. Joseph dropping out of the Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference Tournament, the Spartans will replace the Lions as the no. 8 seed and will travel to top-seeded Transylvania on Sunday February 20 for a 3 p.m. matchup with the Pioneers.

[Baldini]

It is an interesting set of events. Both the HCAC site and the MSJ site still have MSJ playing, yet the Manchester and Transylvania sites list Manchester as playing. 

[Jester1390]

Massey predictions for today playoff games

Transy 76.   Manchester 45.  I agree

Bluffton 67.  Anderson 61.   I agree

Hanover 70 Franklin 64. I disagree

Rose 67 defiance 57.  I agree

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Massey predictions for today playoff games

Transy 76.   Manchester 45.  I agree

Bluffton 67.  Anderson 61.   I agree

Hanover 70 Franklin 64. I disagree

Rose 67 defiance 57.  I agree

The problem with that is that 2 of those aren't the correct games. Pioneers-Spartans and Engineers-Yellow Jackets yes, but it's Franklin @ Bluffton and Anderson @ Hanover. Here's the scores Massey has now... and had to manually do the TU-MU game because it's still listed as MSJ.

Transylvania 81
MSJ 49
Transylvania 78
Manchester 45

Rose-Hulman 68
Defiance 56

Hanover 72
Anderson 67

Bluffton 67
Franklin 56

[Jester1390]

Manchester replace st how they dropped out that was the word yesterday

[Jester1390]

I mixed up was going off of memory   Anderson ein Hanover win

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Transylvania led 53-13 at halftime and cruised to a 90-44 win.
Franklin had a 6 point halftime lead, was tied with Bluffton midway through the 4th, had it within 2 in the final minute but the Beavers survive for a 55-48 win
Anderson outscores Hanover 28-13 in the 4th quarter to take down the 3 seed 88-80.
Rose-Hulman outscored Defiance 17-2 in the second quarter and held on for a 51-42 victory.

Friday we'll have #4 RHIT-#1 Transylvania and #6 Anderson-#2 Bluffton down in Lexington
Interestingly the same seeds won on the mens side as well with #1 Hanover, #2 Rose, #4 Transylvania, and #6 Franklin winning