WBB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I think Rose's biggest problem is they end up In a hole early and just can't recover. 4 of 7 games they've not reached double digits after the 1st quarter and it's their worst point differential at -47.
In 28 quarters if you count each one individually they're 6-21-1. Their only win came when they won 2 quarters.

	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	Final
Berea	9-25	12-17	8-20	1-9	30-71
Chicago	17-23	10-25	12-13	14-13	53-74
IL Wesleyan	11-23	8-19	9-21	6-5	34-68
WashU	8-6	12-18	14-25	13-18	47-67
SMWC	17-19	15-17	15-8	19-17	66-61
Defiance	9-13	15-16	8-10	11-14	43-53
Bluffton	8-17	18-14	10-14	15-15	51-60
Total	79-126	90-126	76-111	79-91	324-454

[Baldini]

Baldini do you know the lottery numbers too?

Baldini 5-0    10-0
Jester 3-2      7-3
FCGG 4-1       6-4
Enginerd 3-2   5-5

Only 2 conference games left this year
12/18 Manchester @ Rose-Hulman
12/30 Earlham @ Transylvania

LOL, can't help with lottery numbers. My knowledge is limited to things with zero monetary value.

[Baldini]

Baldini do you know the lottery numbers too?

Baldini 5-0    10-0
Jester 3-2      7-3
FCGG 4-1       6-4
Enginerd 3-2   5-5

Only 2 conference games left this year
12/18 Manchester @ Rose-Hulman
12/30 Earlham @ Transylvania

I will take RHIT and Transylvania, needed to get that in before the 18th comes and go's.

[Baldini]

In non-conference play tonight Defiance traveled to Hiram and took the lose 77-62. Defiance is now 0-6 in non-conference play, but 2-1 in conference.

[Jester1390]

dittto for me trany and rhit .

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I'll go Manchester and Transy.
Until they finally get over the hump it's hard to pick RHIT.

[Jester1390]

Well hopefully tonight will be the night on my way to Chicago and the couple hour drive to RHIT.  Don't know what will happen tonight. Daughter has been overwhelmed this week with classes. I have to say any athlete especially those at high academic institutions I have developed a major respect for. It would make their lives easier not to have to give time to sports and just concentrate on the unbelievable school load they get.  At Rhit I think it's even heavier as they do quarters. So you can't get behind at all you won't have time to make up the grade like you would in semesters

[Jester1390]

Rose up 2 at half in what can only be described as one ugly ass game

[Baldini]

Rose up 2 at half in what can only be described as one ugly ass game

It was a hard game to watch. Tough home lose for Rose-Holman with Manchester getting the win 53-49.

[Jester1390]

Everyting is so damn mechanical there is absolutely no fluidity to anything they do offensively.  I don't want to be negative on other teams and players. I'll just say this might be the worse loss I have seen my daughter involved in

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Everyting is so damn mechanical there is absolutely no fluidity to anything they do offensively.  I don't want to be negative on other teams and players. I'll just say this might be the worse loss I have seen my daughter involved in

Are you saying a team full on engineering students is playing too mechanically?

[Jester1390]

Lol yes I am.  You can see when they play they are going ok here is point 1 now we need to go point 2 and then to point 3.   There is no free creativeness going on.  Again Look at turnovers at guard position.  I will say this I didn't think Nosa played very well and you look she has 16 and 11 I wish they would get her facing the basket instead of back to basket.   The girl is going to be an absolute monster  20 plus a game once she starts being more decisive and use better hands

[RogK]

Keep breathing, Jester1390.
I think we've all discovered that in D3, progress may include some backward steps along with forward ones.

[Enginerd]

Lol yes I am.  You can see when they play they are going ok here is point 1 now we need to go point 2 and then to point 3.   There is no free creativeness going on.  Again Look at turnovers at guard position.  I will say this I didn't think Nosa played very well and you look she has 16 and 11 I wish they would get her facing the basket instead of back to basket.   The girl is going to be an absolute monster  20 plus a game once she starts being more decisive and use better hands

Jester - I have watched RHIT play for 20 years - and they have had multiple coaches over that span - and I have witnessed what you describe in each of the 21 teams I have watched over the years. The kids are different and they see the world, and a basketball court differently in space, if that makes any sense.
I see a team that completely disintegrates/devolves offensively after the first pass. A LOT of standing around with their heels on the ground. They are beginning to look better defensively, though.
All I can tell you is that RHIT won 23, 24, 24, and 20 games each of the last four seasons running pretty much the same stuff - and I honestly believe they would have advanced to the 2nd weekend both years they made the NCAA tournament if the Dilworth girl hadn't gotten injured both years vs. Transy in the HCAC title game.
Interesting idea with Igiehon - I don't know how well she handles it and they could be afraid she'll just turn it over too much. She sure looks athletic over the internet, though. Your kid looks to be a great defender, especially with her length. They always recruit well, and by the time this group are juniors, they will be back in the thick of it.

[Baldini]

Transylvania is playing in a tournament in Santa Cruz and played Monmouth tonight. They were down 50-39 with under 5 minutes to play and for the most part had played awful all evening, yet found a way to battle back and get a basket with 8 seconds left to take a 53-52 lead. They would add 2 FT's with 1 second left to make the final 55-52, gutty comeback on a night that nothing seem to be going right.