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Jester1390

No I wasn't addressing others I was addressing you.  I said I think it's condescending to automatically go oh someone is going to be offended by an abbreviation which is innocent.  You really have to go down the rabbit hole and make it something it was not.   It was a shortening of a school name the context of it is obvious.  I know you have a site.  I didn't assume anything on anyone reading the comment. You don't need to be gay or transgender to be made disgusted by homophobic remarks. 

I just pointed out that for anyone to take an abbreviation as such a comment. You are really looking to be offended   

Jester1390

Well down 6 at half vs Transylvania started game up 11.  They have defiantly turned the corner they might still lose by 20 never know one girl just liked behind bench so they may be down to 7.    Don't want to jinx the kid but she held Boyle to 0 points first half 

Jester1390

Well a pretty goo djob today by rose-hulman Im not one for moral victories but alot of good today in the 12 point loss.   First breaking 60 points huge deal.    Kudos to boyle for having a great 2nd half for transy.  Jinxed the kid a little at half . Boyle got 2 baskets and a free throw on a and one against her and then scored 10 more on other match ups.

Again you can see where i think this team will be pretty good down the road. After a awesome last game Nosa was held in check after first quarter but Rose Burnham scored her career high of 18 i think. this after getting sick behind the bench.  They have multiple girls that can lead the team in scoring or rebounding on any given day. 

Defiantly there high in 3 point shooting as both wilson and jester shot well.

It will be interesting to see if Transy gos through the same situation as Rose next year as they are graduating 90 percent of their scoring. From what i could tell i dont think the  freshman  or sophomores played a lot.

The kids were pretty happy after the game they know if they keep playing like they have the last 2 games they are going to see  alot more wins in 2nd half of season

Baldini

IMHO, I think it is wishful thinking to believe Transylvania will go though the same thing RHIT is going through this season. Transylvania has two Seniors this season and they account for 43.9% of their scoring. The cupboard is still well stock for next season.

Jester1390

I thought there big 3 were all seniors

Enginerd

Quote from: Baldini on January 18, 2020, 06:59:19 PM
IMHO, I think it is wishful thinking to believe Transylvania will go though the same thing RHIT is going through this season. Transylvania has two Seniors this season and they account for 43.9% of their scoring. The cupboard is still well stock for next season.

The PG #2 is a Jr I believe.
Boyle and Woodard will leave a HUGE void - without Woodard tonight Transy goes into halftime down 12-15 MINIMUM. If those two don't dress today RHIT wins the game - dressing 8 players.

Historically, Transy's always been just fine. Around 2010-11, when they lost Milburn and Black, they went out and got Coffman and Smith, when they lost Coffman and Smith they went out and got Boyle and Woodard - not to mention Hayes (who was IMHO a better player than EITHER of them prior to her ACL injury) and Gransbery, who only stuck around for a year but remains the most athletic kid they've ever recruited - next year a couple other borderline NAIA/DII/DI kids will show up who can really score for them. They always seem to get the kids they need - JUST when they need them.

Jester there are a multitude of majors to choose from at Transy, they have a great location in Lexington (attend a small liberal arts college but feel like you attend UK with all the entertainment and distractions downtown). RHIT has to find girls with 34-35 ACT scores - who want to be engineers - who can play at a high level - and whose families can afford $71,000 per year. I asked one of the parents (of a two-time all-HCAC player) a few years ago, he told me his daughter was paying $45,000 AFTER financial aid!

The question we should all be asking is "How is God's name does RHIT even compete with Transy, let alone win nine straight and two HCAC title games"

Jester1390

Well every kid is different at rose. For family needs also I think but don't know 100 percent I think there is more financial aid avaiable for minorities especially woman to help close the gap in that area for engineering.  I know in my case we a re a middle class family and I'm paying around 40 k after my daughters grants for her grades. 

It was simple for us. She had offers from D-2 and Naia schools for a full ride and I don't care where you are at financially that is a big deal. Especially when you factor in all the money you spent to get her to that point. 

But in the end every school that offered her a ride had limited degrees. She pretty much would have been a nurse at any of those schools. Nothing wrong with that but her mind and intelligence is in stem classes. There was really no great degree that used to disciplines.

She had decided to either attend Gustavus where after academic money would have been about 30 k of she stayed home.  If she took the full ride she had decided on Simpson university in California and also would have been a nurse

We visited a lot of schools and it was great so many wanted her but right before she was going to make her choice.  She said dad you always told me that once I saw the school I would know for sure.   I like both schools but I don't have that feeling.  During this time Rose has come late to the game along with Ohio welselyn    I said we can go visit these 2 schools for engineering.  She was burnt out from recruiting trips but she said she would go to one but not both   Rose had really been talking to me and saying if I can just get her there she would love it

They were right   Now after day 3 she wanted to come home but that's for another time.
The point being Coach prevo has told her that the fact she didn't take the full ride she shouldn't look negative at that. That she should be proud that she had put herself where she had choices.  To many kids have to accept offers and take degrees that they might not want because of financial or no other offers

Writing the check is hard but I know for my daughter and what it will do for her it's worth every penny.


Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Jester1390 on January 18, 2020, 09:59:04 PM
Well every kid is different at rose. For family needs also I think but don't know 100 percent I think there is more financial aid avaiable for minorities especially woman to help close the gap in that area for engineering.  I know in my case we a re a middle class family and I'm paying around 40 k after my daughters grants for her grades. 

It was simple for us. She had offers from D-2 and Naia schools for a full ride and I don't care where you are at financially that is a big deal. Especially when you factor in all the money you spent to get her to that point. 

But in the end every school that offered her a ride had limited degrees. She pretty much would have been a nurse at any of those schools. Nothing wrong with that but her mind and intelligence is in stem classes. There was really no great degree that used to disciplines.

She had decided to either attend Gustavus where after academic money would have been about 30 k of she stayed home.  If she took the full ride she had decided on Simpson university in California and also would have been a nurse

We visited a lot of schools and it was great so many wanted her but right before she was going to make her choice.  She said dad you always told me that once I saw the school I would know for sure.   I like both schools but I don't have that feeling.  During this time Rose has come late to the game along with Ohio welselyn    I said we can go visit these 2 schools for engineering.  She was burnt out from recruiting trips but she said she would go to one but not both   Rose had really been talking to me and saying if I can just get her there she would love it

They were right   Now after day 3 she wanted to come home but that's for another time.
The point being Coach prevo has told her that the fact she didn't take the full ride she shouldn't look negative at that. That she should be proud that she had put herself where she had choices.  To many kids have to accept offers and take degrees that they might not want because of financial or no other offers

Writing the check is hard but I know for my daughter and what it will do for her it's worth every penny.

Truth.  I'm very proud of the fact that my sons graduated without a penny of student loan debt.  (Though son #1 is saddled with thousands in debt from his wife's student debts, with a degree she is not using, but he and she gave us our four wonderful grandkids, so we forgive them! ;D) (Son #2 is so far unmarried, but we took him and his VERY serious girlfriend out for his 28th birthday this evening - no idea if she has student debt - not our debt, not our business. 8-))

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Baldini 4-1     27-10
FCGG 3-2       25-12
Jester 4-1      25-12
Enginerd 0-0   8-7

This will mark the halfway point of conference play. One trip through the conference down, one more to go.

Wednesday

Earlham @ Defiance 7:30 PM
Franklin @ Rose-Hulman 7:30 PM
Transylvania @ Mount St. Joseph 7:30 PM
Bluffton @ Manchester 7:30 PM
Anderson @ Hanover 7:30 PM
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Quote from: Jester1390 on January 17, 2020, 07:49:04 PM
No I wasn't addressing others I was addressing you.  I said I think it's condescending to automatically go oh someone is going to be offended by an abbreviation which is innocent.  You really have to go down the rabbit hole and make it something it was not.   It was a shortening of a school name the context of it is obvious.  I know you have a site.  I didn't assume anything on anyone reading the comment. You don't need to be gay or transgender to be made disgusted by homophobic remarks. 

I just pointed out that for anyone to take an abbreviation as such a comment. You are really looking to be offended

I think the person offended was you for me pointing out a mistake. I'm sorry if you took it that way, but your caterization of what I was thinking or why I posted is about as far off topic as I have seen in awhile. You completely misread (into) a simple post. I simply pointed out the proper way to shorten the name as it was just sitting there and hadn't been edited. Maybe you didn't realize your mistake. Pretty sure you could still apologize. Because all I said was "hey, FYI ..."

I didn't take offense to it. I also didn't say I was offended. There is a chance someone could be, so I figured it was worth noting it should be done with an S whenever shortened. I actually figured it could have been an innocent mistake, thus my simple post - and it really was a simple post. So, why not fix it? Or apologize for a simple mistake? Why instead do you have to take personal offense yourself for someone pointing out your accidental mistake? You decided to indicate that I must have been sensitive and made comments about other people ... not me. I didn't even come place to making those comments in my post. I simply said the proper way for it to be shortened.
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Jester1390

I made my point i have moved on. Were just going to have to agree to disagree.   People can decide for themselves. you have noticed I didnt decide to be an ahole and have been typing transy for short per your request it wasn't a big deal Im just  not a fan of social mob trying to shame and call people names  like being insane when they dont like something.  Even though to be fair you are the only writing me on this so i cant call it a mob.

You keep saying i made a accidental mistake. It wasnt a mistake and it wasnt accidental. I shortened the schools name on picks and to be straight up my mind didnt go where yours did when i typed it .
So you see that why there is no need to apologize there was no mistake there was no error you and i just have a difference of opinion on if it was egregious or not.  Lets get back to basketball  can someone explain why a player would leave the university of minnesota  womans program for giving a bad look to the coach

Baldini

Earlham @ Defiance 7:30 PM
Franklin @ Rose-Hulman 7:30 PM
Transylvania @ Mount St. Joseph 7:30 PM
Bluffton @ Manchester 7:30 PM
Anderson @ Hanover 7:30 PM

Some tight games to pick for Wednesday. I will go with Earlham, Franklin, Transylvania, Bluffton and Hanover.

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I'll second those picks.
Earlham, Franklin, Transy, Bluffton, Hanover
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Baldini

Quote from: Jester1390 on January 19, 2020, 11:57:26 PM
I made my point i have moved on. Were just going to have to agree to disagree.   People can decide for themselves. you have noticed I didnt decide to be an ahole and have been typing transy for short per your request it wasn't a big deal Im just  not a fan of social mob trying to shame and call people names  like being insane when they dont like something.  Even though to be fair you are the only writing me on this so i cant call it a mob.

You keep saying i made a accidental mistake. It wasnt a mistake and it wasnt accidental. I shortened the schools name on picks and to be straight up my mind didnt go where yours did when i typed it .
So you see that why there is no need to apologize there was no mistake there was no error you and i just have a difference of opinion on if it was egregious or not.  Lets get back to basketball  can someone explain why a player would leave the university of minnesota  womans program for giving a bad look to the coach

Is this the Destiny Pitts drama you are referring to? This is from the Pioneer Press article.

'What we do know is that Pitts was not suspended because she and a teammate were arrested on suspicion of criminal sexual conduct. She wasn't suspended for appearing in a sexually explicit video posted to social media, either. Nor was she being investigated by the U's Title IX wing for sexual assault or being part of a prescription drug ring'.

Sounds like Ms. Pitts has some issues and it seems to me that whatever course of action the coach decides to take they should be supported. No player should ever believe they are bigger than the program because they are not. 

Jester1390

Defiance
transy
bluftton
hanover
rose   i think they have figured it out some. they are playing another really young team. could be a good night for them to get back in tournament. Or  a horrible night might mean elimination

A word on Transy. I know there been huge battles the last few years but i have to say they handled themselves with class from the coach to the players.  My kid took the coach out in warmups and the coach was very gracious withe her.. The players help Rose players up after a foul.  The recap on their website was very respectful when a lesser team as i have seen gone out of their way to really bash the Rose squad.  The head coach was very complimentary on the freshman and she could see on film them growing every game.

I think you see that improvement the most in handling the press the last couple of teams that have pressed  hasnt really hurt them.