WBB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Jester1390]

Engine

I saw on a Hope team post they have 3 returning 5 year seniors the most i have seen for any team.   Just wanted to let you know dont get your hope up for the current junior class to take the extra year as much i I would love it.  i was told when i brought it up. Oh we will be to busy in our careers.  A testament to Rose each player has  a internship and I believe all of them have already been offered jobs after graduation their senior year. I lose the kid to Virginia this summer after losing her to Kentucky last summer.

A note on Jamie Baum from Rose she played baseball through her high school time and plays for the USA womans baseball team

[Jester1390]

rankings are out 

2021-22 HCAC Women's Basketball Preseason Poll

1.   Transylvania University (6)   95
2.   Hanover College (2)   86
3.   Mount St. Joseph University (1)   70
4.   Franklin College (1)   66
5.   Bluffton University   65
6.   Anderson University   64
7.   Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology   29
7.   Manchester   29
9.   Defiance College   28
10.   Earlham College   18

[Jester1390]

players to watch

Rose-Hulman
Name   Class   Hometown   Position
Jordan Barlow   JR   Hutchinson, Kan.   Forward
Rose Burnham   JR   South Riding, Va.   Forward
Kahlan Jester   JR   Minneapolis, Minn.   Guard
Nola Wilson   SR   Indianapolis, Ind.   Guard

[Jester1390]

Engine

Have a report for you on Rose scrimmage vs Indiana State  a pretty good showing against a D-1 team.  Rose was missing their d-1 transfer she is recovering from a foot injury the team is already beat up.   They played well and was hanging the first 10 minutes and then conditioning and the other teams talent took over.  Baum played well and i was told if she was at Indiana state she would get minutes.  Good news they handled their press pretty well  which is  huge improvement for the team and they will be facing a press all game from Berea on Saturday.

My kid is fighting through and playing with Plantar fasciitis the girl is tough at nails already playing through a torn ligament in her non shooting wrist and dislocated hip that they had to pop back in during games.  Good news is she appears to have rediscovered her shot she was hitting 3's in the scrimmage.

They have a volleyball  player joining the squad and she is raw but she already showing she can be a defensive stopper had 6 blocks in the game including stuffing their 6'4 player.

So hopefully they get d-1 player back for berea but for sure the tournament. I have been told they are not sure what to expect anything from we can compete for division to if we cant get enough healthy bodies we could struggle

[Jester1390]

going to pick a scab  here  when i first  posted on this site i used Transy as short for Transylvania and got roasted by a couple of people and a couple of smites  for somehow becoming a phobia that would trigger people  i just happen to be listening to eastern Kentucky against Transylvania radio broadcast. this is professional radio 92.5 and they have repeatedly referred to them as a Transy.

No apology needed but I thought i would point it out sometimes its not all about what you think it is.   By the way they are more then holding their own against Eastern Kentucky  52-44 with 30 sec left in 3rd quarter

[Baldini]

going to pick a scab  here  when i first  posted on this site i used Transy as short for Transylvania and got roasted by a couple of people and a couple of smites  for somehow becoming a phobia that would trigger people  i just happen to be listening to eastern Kentucky against Transylvania radio broadcast. this is professional radio 92.5 and they have repeatedly referred to them as a Transy.

No apology needed but I thought i would point it out sometimes its not all about what you think it is.   By the way they are more then holding their own against Eastern Kentucky  52-44 with 30 sec left in 3rd quarter

Wasn't my dog in the fight, but it was your usage of Trany and not Transy that caused the huff. If a refresher is needed go back to page 24 for details.

[Jester1390]

The pinpoint was same thought process. It was obvious I was shortening the name you chose to be offended even when it was clear the intention. Just my point maybe a transgender person doesn't like transy either and that is how the link was labeled

Look if your always looking to be offended you will find it.  Then when their is a serious situation your just the person who called wolf and no one pays attention

[Flying Dutch Fan]

The pinpoint was same thought process. It was obvious I was shortening the name you chose to be offended even when it was clear the intention. Just my point maybe a transgender person doesn’t like transy either and that is how the link was labeled

Look if your always looking to be offended you will find it.  Then when their is a serious situation your just the person who called wolf and no one pays attention

Sorry Jester, but not even close to the same thing.  Maybe it was an honest typing mistake on your part, but don't try to make it someone elses problem.   

Go Google both of those terms - results when you search Transy are all about Transylvania University - in fact @Transy is the Twitter handle of the official University Twitter account. 

[Jester1390]

I dont have a problem and there is no maybe to it and im not making it anyone's problem. Thats the point there was never a problem in the first place only if you decided to see one in your  mind.

Cool beans nice little debate but back to basketball it will be terrific to have games in so many places this weekend  and for fans to be able to go

[Jester1390]

good night for the conference  3-0 tonight    recommend watching the last 29 seconds of the manchester game quite something

[Jester1390]

Just got back from Indianapolis.  Not big on moral victories but i come away from the 65-61 loss to Berea with huge smile for upcoming season.   Rose played the same team 2 years ago which was the first collegiate game when they had just one senior and all freshman and they lost 71-40 .  2 years later  Berea playing there first game since being in the sweet 16 when it was shut down and 25-4 record they chose not to play last year. They return all 5 starters including Ncaa freshman of the year Hampton.  To Hamptons credit they won the game at the line going 22-24 on free throws some of those free throw attempts i would question by I'm biased leave that to others.

With 2:30 Rose was up 3 and didn't finish it out. Jester had a deep 3 attempt to tie game with a minute to go but it didnt go.  Great across the board team play and while it wasn't always pretty against their press which they are known for. It was night and day better then 2 years ago and it will get only better with Hein the d-1 guard  who sat out this game but will be back for the tournaments If they would have had Rowen they would have won the game.

Baum the highly recruited freshman had a double double but had 7 turnovers and I think Jamie herself would say she will be much better after getting through the nerves of her first game.  You can see the difference athletically  with the other girls on the floor. She should be a solid 15-20 pts a game. The days of scoring in the 40 point range is over for Rose. If Rowen is everything she is touted to be Rose will be fighting for the conference. They have a brutal non conference schedule so North Park is the next test to see how far they have come.

[Jester1390]

Also congrat to the rose-hulman football team for winning the hcac and going to the Ncaa playoff. Its amazing that they find so many high academic student athletes in all sports and compete  so well across the board.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I'd love to see the Rose FB team get a playoff win. Heading to DePauw is a winnable game compared to what I expected the bracket to look like.

The Grizzlies looked good in their opener against Olivet. 5 players in double figures, Bailey with 14 and 14. Need to cut down on fouls though... 32 fouls led to 44 FT attempts. Going to be a much stiffer test next weekend when they play Centre and Oglethorpe.

[Jester1390]

Ok I'm assuming these Massey ratings are more realistic once there is a body of games to have berea like 200 something is ridiculous at worst they are top 30 team and I would bet they will be in top 20.   
Rose lost by 3 to them and fell 53 spots

[Baldini]

Ok I'm assuming these Massey ratings are more realistic once there is a body of games to have berea like 200 something is ridiculous at worst they are top 30 team and I would bet they will be in top 20.   
Rose lost by 3 to them and fell 53 spots

Berea joined D3 and the USA South Conference in 2018, before that they were a NAIA school. Berea finished the 2018 season 102nd on Massey, 122nd in 2019, 96th in 2020. The USA South in a very weak conference year after year and in the past 8 years has not had a single team in the top 30 no less top 20.