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FCGrizzliesGrad

Back to back games Franklin had a shot at the buzzer to win but missed to lose by 1. Since the disaster against Rose, they've lost their last four by a combined 12 points. But they've still lost 8 in a row since beating Manchester on Dec 11.
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Earlham @ Manchester
Mount St Joseph @ Anderson
Hanover @ Bluffton
Franklin @ Defiance
Transylvania @ Rose-Hulman
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Baldini

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 20, 2022, 12:54:43 PM
Back to back games Franklin had a shot at the buzzer to win but missed to lose by 1. Since the disaster against Rose, they've lost their last four by a combined 12 points. But they've still lost 8 in a row since beating Manchester on Dec 11.

I didn't pick'em today, so they got a chance. Lol

Enginerd

Earlham @ Manchester - Manchester

Mount St Joseph @ Anderson - MSJ

Hanover @ Bluffton - Bluffton

Franklin @ Defiance - Defiance

Transylvania @ Rose-Hulman - I have to choose RHIT but have major concerns about their legs and conditioning after two weeks off and apparently multiple Covid cases. Any idea how many Covid cases and where the team is, physically Jester?

Enginerd

Quote from: Baldini on January 22, 2022, 12:54:49 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 20, 2022, 12:54:43 PM
Back to back games Franklin had a shot at the buzzer to win but missed to lose by 1. Since the disaster against Rose, they've lost their last four by a combined 12 points. But they've still lost 8 in a row since beating Manchester on Dec 11.

I didn't pick'em today, so they got a chance. Lol

Franklin is more talented than the won/loss column indicates. They'll put it together eventually - hopefully against somebody other than RHIT!

Jester1390

They will have a majority of team back today.    My kid and ally the volleyball post player are out.  I think a couple of depth players out also.  They will have 10

Jester1390

Half time. Transy 32 rose 31.  Girls playing well. Great contribution from Peyton Miller getting more minutes.   Played most of 2nd quarter without standout Hein in foul trouble.  So for them to be hanging without her scoring.    Giving up to much on offensive boards.    Frustrating watching Stacy getting open 3 looks when I know if the kid had been cleared she would be taking that away

But the bench is providing scoring. Baum not dominating rebounding like she has in past but is starting to warm up.  Rose has come back twice now down 9 early took a 1 point lead.  Then got down 7  Ana's came back again to be down 1 at half

Jester1390

Start of fourth rose 52 transy 46.  Was falling apart but to big 3 at end of quarter only 8 points total between Baum and hein.   Hein in foul trouble whole game hardly playing

Jester1390

Unbeleivable  a no call on transy givews them the ball with 1 second  rose fouls 2 free trows need to make just one and transy misses both overtime

Baldini

Very fun game to watch. This is the kind of game that will make both teams better moving forward. Hopefully we get a round 3 in the tournament. Tip of the hat to both teams today.

Final: Transylvania 72, RHIT 68 in OT

Jester1390

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Transy wins 72-68 in overtime.   First great job by girls who dont play as heavy minutes. They should have won the game.  the heavy hitters tried to ice the game at end  but just couldn't get shots to fall,   ok now the negative.    They need to learn how to stay composed.   step on a teams neck.    The non call at end of game of ball bowling over rose player and not getting the foul to put rose at the line to win the game was inexcusable.   

Credit to ball for sinking 2 huge 3s and Transy never losing focus    It went what i thought would happen. with the kid out  the players who got her minutes would score more but would give up way more points and turn the ball over more. The other Jester is really good at getting ball into the post to barlow and that struggled today. Lastly and this is on Rose-Hulman  you keep continuing to put inept people at the scoreboard who do not know what they are doing at the clock and it cost you a game today. 4 times there would have been shot clock violations and for some reason  he reset the shot clock. Refs did reverse one but the most important he d id it again and it cost Rose a 3 .  Not even talking about how many times the game had to stop because they didnt  start the clock. Including taking the momentum away in overtime after a made shot to make 2 point game with 33 seconds and just killing them by having game stop

Announcers said both teams should be in the tournament.  Neither team will lose again this year and will face each other in transy for the championship game.  I doubt they would get in with 5 losses and not winning championship but 2 of their losses would  against Transy one vs depauw  one vs North Park and in first game of year missing players but they will be their conference champs im pretty sure Berea    So all quality losses  along with a win over IWU.  They defiantly wouldn't be a team you would want in what you think would be an easy first round game

FCGrizzliesGrad

Franklin had a 2 point lead headed to the 4th, but Defiance went on a 13-2 run to start the quarter. Grizzlies cut the lead down to 2 with under 3 minutes left but couldn't get closer. Shot 2 of 13 from behind the arc and committed too many fouls. Yellow Jackets hit 27 of 33 from the line.
Good news is winless Earlham is up next, bad news is last time they were scheduled to play it was cancelled.

Anderson destroyed MSJ right out of the gate. Ravens had a 14-0 lead before the Lions hit a FT midway through the quarter, then Anderson went on a 19-0 run before MSJ hit their first FG 2 minutes into the 2nd quarter. It was 30-1 after one quarter.

Rose has a good team but the profile just isn't there to get a pool C bid. They've played several good teams but lost them all (even if the largest margin is only 10). The good news is they are certainly capable of winning the conference tournament and getting pool A. It's a far cry from the preseason poll which had them tied for 7th a looooong way behind 6th.
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Enginerd

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 22, 2022, 06:38:12 PM
Franklin had a 2 point lead headed to the 4th, but Defiance went on a 13-2 run to start the quarter. Grizzlies cut the lead down to 2 with under 3 minutes left but couldn't get closer. Shot 2 of 13 from behind the arc and committed too many fouls. Yellow Jackets hit 27 of 33 from the line.
Good news is winless Earlham is up next, bad news is last time they were scheduled to play it was cancelled.

Anderson destroyed MSJ right out of the gate. Ravens had a 14-0 lead before the Lions hit a FT midway through the quarter, then Anderson went on a 19-0 run before MSJ hit their first FG 2 minutes into the 2nd quarter. It was 30-1 after one quarter.

Rose has a good team but the profile just isn't there to get a pool C bid. They've played several good teams but lost them all (even if the largest margin is only 10). The good news is they are certainly capable of winning the conference tournament and getting pool A. It's a far cry from the preseason poll which had them tied for 7th a looooong way behind 6th.

Agreed - the Fightin' Engineers are not Pool C candidates this season. They are 1-3 against likely RRO and just got off to a slow start.

After watching today, and knowing the team has not played in two weeks and many of the girls are shaking off Covid, it's apparent to me that if Transy is the #3 team in the country, RHIT is as good as anyone that IS ranked, with but a handful of exceptions such as Hope.

They missed Jester's length on defense and Fults' rebounding and defense today - and it's obvious that Hein and Baum are still a little shaky from the lay-off. Hopefully they'll respect everyone left on the schedule and not lose a game they shouldn't to finish 14-5 (12-2) and get the #2 seed for the HCAC Tournament. This is a two-team show and RHIT will be a hell of a tough out in late-February/early March.

Jester1390

I will just say this.  Kellion made 6 3 pointers today.  When the kid had her in the first game she didnt make any and had one when she was on bench.  Held to 10 points on only 3 baskets.

Today though they held stacy to only 2 3s after she torched them for 6 in first game .   

what i amazed when i watch some schools is usually there is one really talented scorer sometimes 2 and really good teams 3 . But most have one dominant scorer. You dont see many box and ones and I owuld run that in aau tournaments when a girl was averaging 25 and you just take them away dont have her defender help anyone. Make  others beat you. alot of times teams dont know how to function if their top scorer is not a factor

Roundball999

Quote from: Enginerd on January 22, 2022, 11:39:03 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 22, 2022, 06:38:12 PM
Franklin had a 2 point lead headed to the 4th, but Defiance went on a 13-2 run to start the quarter. Grizzlies cut the lead down to 2 with under 3 minutes left but couldn't get closer. Shot 2 of 13 from behind the arc and committed too many fouls. Yellow Jackets hit 27 of 33 from the line.
Good news is winless Earlham is up next, bad news is last time they were scheduled to play it was cancelled.

Anderson destroyed MSJ right out of the gate. Ravens had a 14-0 lead before the Lions hit a FT midway through the quarter, then Anderson went on a 19-0 run before MSJ hit their first FG 2 minutes into the 2nd quarter. It was 30-1 after one quarter.

Rose has a good team but the profile just isn't there to get a pool C bid. They've played several good teams but lost them all (even if the largest margin is only 10). The good news is they are certainly capable of winning the conference tournament and getting pool A. It's a far cry from the preseason poll which had them tied for 7th a looooong way behind 6th.

Agreed - the Fightin' Engineers are not Pool C candidates this season. They are 1-3 against likely RRO and just got off to a slow start.

After watching today, and knowing the team has not played in two weeks and many of the girls are shaking off Covid, it's apparent to me that if Transy is the #3 team in the country, RHIT is as good as anyone that IS ranked, with but a handful of exceptions such as Hope.

They missed Jester's length on defense and Fults' rebounding and defense today - and it's obvious that Hein and Baum are still a little shaky from the lay-off. Hopefully they'll respect everyone left on the schedule and not lose a game they shouldn't to finish 14-5 (12-2) and get the #2 seed for the HCAC Tournament. This is a two-team show and RHIT will be a hell of a tough out in late-February/early March.

Had some internet trouble so didn't get to see all of the game but it sure was a nail biter.  Agree with most everything you said; RHIT vastly improved, solid and scrappy and will be a tough out for anyone.  I can't imagine they will lose again before the tournament except maybe to Transy and that is no sure thing either.  They have a real shot at the AQ.

On the other hand, on eye test Transy doesn't look like the #3 team to me.  Massey has them at #12 and that seems more likely.  The defense looked very porous to me; if RHIT hits one or two more of those open 12 footers in the lane the game goes the other way.  Seems to me voters are still giving lots of weight to the Tufts win (no doubt, it was a great win) but the voters also had Tufts much higher at the time.  Then again, Transy keeps beating everyone while most of the other top teams have taken losses, what more can they do?  Voters usually loathe to drop a team unless it takes a loss.  I could be way off; this is really the only time I've seen them this year and could just be that RHIT gave them a really tough game.  Really not fair to judge on basically one game.